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Title: Kong News
Post by: Cullen on May 15, 2003, 08:37:38 AM
 CHUD (http://www.chud.com) has the latest word on the next remake of King Kong .  The interested can find it  here (http://www.chud.com/news/may03/may14kong.php3).

Personally, this is very good news.  I didn't think the first script was that good, and it's nice to know that the writers agree with me.  (All arrogance aside, of course.)  With any luck, what comes next is truer to the original.  Kong hasn't been in a good movie since the original; the ape deserves better.

Title: 1976??
Post by: Evan3 on May 15, 2003, 11:44:24 AM
Just wondering if the original 1933 King Kong was out on DVD (cant find it) but during my search, I saw a 1976 version of King Kong starring.... Jeff Bridges! Even Jessica Lange was there for the party.

Anyione have any word on this one??

Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: Chadzilla on May 15, 2003, 11:52:58 AM
Warner Brothers is currently putting together a special edition two disc set of the original.

Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: Cullen on May 15, 2003, 12:15:52 PM
While it has its defenders, most find the 1976 Kong to be pretty bad.  No dinosaurs, lots of dubious "character" development, and an extreme length work against it.  Still, Rick Barker's Kong costume's pretty good, and Kong's New York visit is entertaining.  It's just getting there...

(Footnote - when making the movie, Dino DeLaurentis and the other produces made a big noise about the F/X, specifically the giant robot they were building to play Kong.  Designed by Carlo Rambaldi, the robot makes exactly one brief appearance in the film, right when Kong breaks free in New York.  You can't miss it when it happens; it looks nothing like Baker's Kong.

(The movie won an Oscar for its F/X, which, in retrospect, seems sad.)
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Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: Johnny Blister on May 15, 2003, 12:58:14 PM
I´ve never seen the c1976 version.Is it any good?
Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: raj on May 15, 2003, 01:28:11 PM
It was alright.  I saw it in the theater in '76.  As a 12 year old I liked it a lot, but it really hasn't held up since then.  The original is more fun.
Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 15, 2003, 01:49:29 PM
There had better be dinosaures in it, as in enough to shake a stick at.

-the first rule of fat club-
Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: raj on May 15, 2003, 01:54:20 PM
King Kong vs. Jurassic Park IV
Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: Johnny Blister on May 15, 2003, 01:59:59 PM
Who is hotter:Fay Wray or Jessica Lange?
Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: The Burgomaster on May 15, 2003, 02:05:20 PM
Incidentally, I just ordered QUEEN KONG on DVD. (Directed by Frank Agrama of DAWN OF THE MUMMY fame . . . I can't wait).

Title: Re: 1976??
Post by: raj on May 15, 2003, 02:07:04 PM
Fay Wray.
Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: Johnny Blister on May 15, 2003, 02:07:25 PM
There´s a King Kong VS Godzilla fight at WWWF...
Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: Squishy on May 15, 2003, 02:39:25 PM
Fay Wray cameos in the remake (the woman who screeeeeeeeams when Kong breaks free in New York), but I prefer Jessica--post-Kong. I think her Golden Globe was for just coming off as well as she did with the awful script she was given.

Script courtesy of Lorenzo Semple Jr., by the way. Semple's best known for the Adam West "Batman" series and that other horrific deLaurentiis' remake, "Flash Gordon." For those who haven't seen the remake yet, it was directed by John Guillermin, whose other credits include "The Towering Inferno" and Tanya Robert's "Sheena."

He also directed the jawdropper "King Kong Lives," which every bad-movie buff has to see at least once. Wowwww.

Thanks for the tip, Cullen. (I didn't think the old Jackson script was brilliant, either, but mentioned it way back then as a curiosity. Jack's "mid-air transfer" would've had enraged fans storming from the theater screaming for his blood.)
Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: Evan3 on May 16, 2003, 12:14:22 PM
Now is it just my faulty memory, or are there two endings to King Kong Vs. Godzilla, and if so, which ending is sold on Amazon??

Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: The Burgomaster on May 16, 2003, 12:25:41 PM
There were 2 endings, but I think that only the one where King Kong wins was released in the U.S. My guess is that's the version that's on Amazon.

Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Chadzilla on May 16, 2003, 12:31:32 PM
With Kong swimming off to Monster Island and Godzilla nowhere to be seen.  The supposed alternate ending with The Big G winning is strictly fanboy legend.

Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Johnny Blister on May 16, 2003, 02:08:48 PM
There´s ALREADY a King Kong remake,why make another one?
Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Chadzilla on May 16, 2003, 02:12:21 PM
Uh, money.  Lots and lots of money from merchandising, cable, video and the lot.  It's all about the money.

Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 16, 2003, 02:31:21 PM
I heard the endings for "King Kong vs Godzilla" were a littie diffrent. The shot went the same but in the Japanese version it looked like Kong was running away while Godzilla was roaring. But I think the Japanese version would be better (I have not seen it thought) The orginal had no stupit newsbroading casting scenes and the music was better.

-the first rule of fat club-
Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Chadzilla on May 16, 2003, 02:39:02 PM
The ending is the same.  King Kong swims away while the group of observers stand there and comment on the action they have just watched.  Come to think of it, KKvG is not the only movie that ends with The Big G falling and/or disappearing into the ocean while the human characters stand there and watch.  Godzilla Versus Mothra and Monster Zero have similar endings as well.

Funny no one talks about alternate endings to those, huh?  :-D

Title: Re: King Kong Vs Godzilla on had ONE ending.
Post by: Dave: Blackeye15 on May 16, 2003, 03:16:45 PM
HMMMM... I guess Chadzilla has a point but I think when people say Godzilla wins it's like his getting Kong off is turf.

-the first rule of fat club-
Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: Flangepart on May 18, 2003, 02:31:47 PM
Seen KK Vs. G ,original version. listen to the soundtrack on tape for background when tired and wanna relax. G and Kongs roars at "The end", and at the beginning.
Much better then the U.S. cut. "Taco" has some extra comic moments, and the hero gets more face time too. And, better music! Oh, can't have some Japanese guys music, gotta recycle the Library stuff.....arrgh!
Get the Toho stuff in the original cut, if you at all can...trust me, you never regret it...



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Title: Re: Kong News
Post by: Goon on May 18, 2003, 06:56:13 PM
If they go through with this, I hope they have the sense to set it in te 1930's and not go out of their way to make it pollitacally correct.
The first Kong?  He wasn't a special effect, he was a CHARACTER.  I hope they manage that for the remake.

-----ooo-'U'-ooo-------Kilroy was here.
Title: On the time period
Post by: Cullen on May 18, 2003, 07:00:39 PM
The first script, bad as it was, was set in the 1930's.  As of yet, there is no indication that that might change.
Title: Re: On the time period
Post by: Evan3 on May 18, 2003, 10:31:38 PM
Cullen wrote:

> The first script, bad as it was, was set in the 1930's.  As of
> yet, there is no indication that that might change.


Set in the 1930s??? What crap is this??? I demand a movie where semi naked teens are abandoned on the island with this ape, and it systematically kills them in a stalkerish manner. Oh, and I hope there will be a twist ending, that will set it up for a sequal with Freddie Prinze Jr. hahahahahaha.

Oh wait, Peter Jackson is directing? Ok then, sounds like we have a competent man with love for a storyline at the helm. poor Freddie Prinze

Title: Re: On the time period
Post by: Johnny Blister on May 19, 2003, 07:07:19 PM
THERE IS ALREADY A DAMN KING KONG REMAKE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the time period
Post by: Cullen on May 19, 2003, 07:34:11 PM
Johnny Blister wrote:

> THERE IS ALREADY A DAMN KING KONG REMAKE!!!!!!!!!

No kidding.  Live and learn.  I don't think any of us would have known, had you not told us.

Pointless sarcasm aside, there are actually two Kong remakes.  The 1976 version we discussed above and the godawful  The Mighty Kong (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0158780), a review of which can be found  here (http://www.jabootu.com/mightykong.htm).  Both were made for money and not handled by someone who loved the original (something that can not be said about Peter Jackson, the man directing the next Kong).

It's not like we were discussing a remake of  Sexette (http://www.badmovies.org/movies/sextette/index.html) (which, as I am no longer a "people" person, I believe the world needs right now.)  Just be cool and let it pass.  It's not like SHOUTING ABOUT IT is going to change anything.

Title: Sexette?
Post by: raj on May 19, 2003, 07:37:16 PM
Remake of Sexette?  Shudder!  Who would you have star in it  Anna Nicole Smith or that other well know "actress" (cough, cough, hack cough) Madonna?
Title: Re: Sexette?
Post by: Cullen on May 19, 2003, 08:25:31 PM
Madonna.  I'm not hateful enough to inflict Smith on the world...again.

Of course, I'm gonna wait until 2038 to begin filming...
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