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Title: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Paul Westbrook on July 22, 2003, 10:54:51 PM
Well, I got a chance to finally see the first trailer for the new film Freddy vs Jason, which opens Aug 15. Im amazed that they didn't ask Kane Hodder to reprise his role as Jason Vorhees. Still what I got to see from this movie so far looks pretty good.  I just hope that thismovie lives up to the hype considering we have been waiting for it for a long time now. I just want to see who finally is the true Slasher master. Comment on this topic anytime.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: MOVIEGUY on July 23, 2003, 01:10:00 PM
YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING.  CAN THERE BE ANYTHING MORE LAME THAN "FREDDY VS. JASON"?  WHO REALLY WANTS TO SEE THIS?  DOES ANYONE CARE?  HOLLYWOOD NEEDS NEW IDEAS FOR HORROR MOVIES, NOT A BOGUS REHASH OF CHARACTERS THAT WERE INTERESTING 20 YEARS AGO!  WHAT'S NEXT, "ALIEN VS. MICHAEL MYERS"????  GET REAL.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2003, 02:10:43 PM
You've got to be kidding me...this is your arguement for not liking this film....give me a break!  Lets offer a little more constructive criticism before jumping on a movie.  And furthermore...it hasn't even been released..how do you know it won't be decent.  what kind of movie person are you!

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: AndyC on July 23, 2003, 02:25:23 PM
I wasn't aware it was that close to being released. With all of the delays in getting Jason X into theatres, I wasn't holding my breath.

Hard to say who will win, but I'm a little worried about a cop-out ending that attempts to satisfy everyone with a stalemate.

If it were up to me, I'd say Jason should win. He's not a good guy, but he at least started out as an innocent victim. Freddy was always the bad guy. Jason also seems like more of a mindless killing machine, while Freddy obviously relishes what he does. Still, neither one should probably be triumphant. I mean, you can't just have everyone let Jason lumber off into the night like Godzilla. It would make the most sense if Jason pulls a Darth Vader, and sacrifices himself to beat Freddy. Be nice to see what they ended up doing.

Even more interesting will be seeing how they bring these two characters together.

My only real concern is that horror movies have changed since the 80s, and this will fail to really capture what the fans remember.

I just hope it plays where I can see it. Movies like this often get the short end of the stick. It's the old self-fulfilling prophecy. They'll give it a limited release with no fanfare, and lo and behold, it won't do particularly well.

Oh, and Movieguy, on this board we respect each other, or we get booted off. Just some friendly advice. And take off your caps lock.

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Reed Rothchild on July 23, 2003, 02:50:00 PM
Exactly. Let the film get released before anyone slags it off.

I'm sure the film-makers are aware of the situation of these two 80's slasher kings getting it on. As long as its tongue is firmly wedged in its cheek it should be a good laugh if nothing else.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Drezzy on July 23, 2003, 02:55:26 PM
I'll wait until rental or it comes on TV (be it Starz or HBO, since those seem to be the only two networks that show "Friday the 13th" movies). I'm not too big a fan of either series, with Nightmare getting the slight nod because Freddy's so damn badass, but if it's half as entertaining as Jason X was, I'll dig it.

Title: I care...
Post by: Dunners on July 23, 2003, 08:20:56 PM
why are you on the forum if you dont like these 2 B movies series? sure half of the movies in each series suck but some are quite good.  What kind of a guy is this? he's a knuckleknob

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Paul Westbrook on July 23, 2003, 10:52:33 PM
I would like to thank all of you for your comments. Keep up the greeat work on this great site.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Callysto on July 24, 2003, 12:28:52 AM
This is one movie that I am kinda looking forward to coming out.

Two good horror slashers right there together in one movie.

To say who would win is gonna be tough because-
     1. Jason is almost like invincible and full of inhuman strength
     2. Freddy can jump in and out of dreams with no problem where he seems to      
          gain from the nightmare he creates.

However I think if they were to put a surprise in with this movie and bring in Micheal Myers- hands down I would pick him as the winner overall. He is evil personified in true form.

Again this is just what I think but I am sure when the movie comes out we all will know the answer.

Respect is very important on this board and some should try to learn that the easy way instead of the hard way.

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: StatCat on July 24, 2003, 11:09:18 AM
Could there be 3 possible endings?:1. Jason Wins2. Freddy wins3. Movie goer's run out half way through

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: StatCat on July 24, 2003, 11:09:30 AM
Could there be 3 possible endings?:

1. Jason Wins
2. Freddy wins
3. Movie goer's run out half way through
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: AndyC on July 24, 2003, 12:42:18 PM
StatCat wrote:

> Could there be 3 possible endings?:
>
> 1. Jason Wins
> 2. Freddy wins
> 3. Movie goer's run out half way through

Sure. They could stop the movie at the climax and a CGI William Castle could come on and ask everyone to vote by holding up their cards  :)



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Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: Gecko brothers on July 25, 2003, 12:28:30 AM
i'll wait till the dvd comes out it'll better
Title: he does have a point
Post by: Evan3 on July 25, 2003, 08:20:09 PM
I have yet to see a Nightmare film, nor have I seen the first Friday film, but I know quite a bit about both characters. I will take up what Movie guy says and say that a little more thought could have been put into this.

Does Jason even sleep, I dont think so, that would make the movie a little lamer if he never napped.....

Plus, they are so different andoperate on different planes.

I would prefer to see Freddy vs. the demons from Hellraiser,

Or Jason go toe to toe with the nigh invincible Myers from Halloween.

Now that would be a slasher.... I will still be seeing this movie however, it cant hurt.

Title: Re: he does have a point
Post by: AndyC on July 27, 2003, 10:10:39 AM
That's going to be the interesting part - seeing how they get Freddy and Jason into the same movie. Really, these are the two characters I'd most like to see. When the slasher craze was at its peak, it was Jason, Freddy and the rest, as far as I was concerned. Not that I didn't like the others. I watched all the Hellraisers and Halloweens, but Jason and Freddy were the big boys.

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: FvJ_Fan on July 27, 2003, 11:33:27 AM
Actually, there's an Alien vs Predator movie in the works.

ps; TYPING IN ALLCAPS MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A f**kING MORON WHO CANT GET A POINT ACROSS WITHOUT WHINING AND b***hING.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: FvJ_Fan on July 27, 2003, 11:36:42 AM
I heard rumors abound about 2 different endings, 1 for each of them and depending on which theater you go to, it will differ.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: SkullNinja on July 27, 2003, 12:46:34 PM
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Which will probably never see the light of day. Mixing icon genres from different companies might work in graphic nevels, but it doesn't seem to fly on the silver screen.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: jmc on July 27, 2003, 10:54:30 PM
I have a feeling this is one of those where the trailer has all the good parts.  

I think both the F13 and the Nightmare franchises have a big role to play in why so many horror films suck these days, so I don't really care if this ever sees the light of day.  The invention of the horror movie franchise probably did more than anything else did to eliminate creativity and original ideas in American horror films, so I'm sorta rooting for this one to fail.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: AndyC on July 28, 2003, 01:22:43 PM
I wouldn't blame Freddy and Jason in particular. The reason so many horror movies suck is the same reason that most of today's sci-fi movies suck. Hardly anybody makes honest-to-goodness horror or sci-fi anymore.

The big studios want movies with wide appeal, so they make dramas and romantic comedies for the women, action movies for the men, raunchy comedies for the teenagers, and merchandisable cartoons for the kids. Once in a while, they'll slap a coat of sci-fi or horror on an action flick to try and please the rest of us, usually with a load of CGI.

Even slashers were ruined when too much teen drama got added to them, and they tried to be all hip and self-aware. Just have a bunch of young stereotypes getting picked off creatively, and try not to be too "wink wink, nudge nudge" with the humour. Is that too much to ask?

Really, it's been too long since I've seen anything like a Jason or Freddy flick for me to blame them for anything in the industry today.

Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: MOVIEGUY on July 28, 2003, 01:25:06 PM
TEMPER TEMPER LITTLE BOY.  JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW FROM YOU, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'VE GOT TO GET PERSONAL.  AS FOR TYPING IN ALL CAPS,  I LOST A HAND IN VIET NAM AND IT'S THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO TYPE.  NOW GO TO MOMMY AND GET YOUR DIAPER CHANGED.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: -=NiGHTS=- on July 29, 2003, 04:50:18 AM
Oh, Jesus.  There is no space in Vietnam for one, (As in, the word, anyway. It's a pretty large county), and secondly, hand or no hand, youre damn near incoherent.  Also, there's nothing wrong with having a different point of view--unfortunately, yours is based on idiocy and really, really lame insults.  Back up your opinion a little, and maybe we'll be a little more forgiving.  

Oh, also--Any internet porn addict will tell you that it's damn easy to type with only one hand.  Heck, I typed this entire post with just my left hand.  RIghty was..ah..busy.  Making casserole.  In the kitchen.

I'll shut up now.
Title: Re: FREDDY VS JASON
Post by: SkullNinja on July 29, 2003, 09:40:05 PM
Was it noodle casserole?

Heh, heh, . . . er, I'll sit down now. :-)