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Title: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Goon on August 20, 2003, 07:53:49 PM
The Capalert website now has a review of F.vs.J
It's like watching an unstopable force strike an immovable object...  Marvelous...

Is anyone else wondering what would happen if these folks saw (as MST3K put it) an ultra-violent japanese porn cartoon?  (These same folks who gave 'Spirited Away' a bad review...)

-----ooo-'U'-ooo------Kilroy was here.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Vermin Boy on August 20, 2003, 08:43:01 PM
I'm still dissappointed they didn't review "House of 1000 Corpses." ;)

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Dave:Blackeye15 on August 20, 2003, 10:59:54 PM
*GASP!* somebody gave "Spirited Away" a bad review, that movie's great! I want to see the review,where is the website?

-the first rule of fat club-
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Goon on August 20, 2003, 11:52:48 PM
capalert.com or just plug 'capalert' into google.

----ooo-'U'-ooo-----Kilroy was here.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: dean on August 21, 2003, 10:03:16 AM

wow i like this site, it just shows how funny religion can make people!

i can't believe they gave american psycho a zero! i mean, i know that this film is completely crazy, but its for adults who should know the difference [and kids who think its cool! ;-) ]

one negative comment on spirited away:
"potentially lethal risk-taking by a child to rescue someone"--- wouldn't you want  a kid risking their lives to save you if the situation required it? that would be damn heroic, and more of a sin to let someone die if you could help.

i could go on for hours about the craziness of fundamentalists!  those silly buggers!

would it be a sin if i tried to write a few reviews on the la blue girl series, explaining how rape by devil-tentacles was productive in the development of children?
i think i would be doing a service for mankind, and 8 year olds everywhere
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: dean on August 21, 2003, 10:27:35 AM

sorry but i just had to include this negative comment on the movie 'Unbreakable'

"comment that many people really do have super powers which are simply undiscovered or inadequately harnessed: exaggeration of the truth "

how can super powers be an exaggeration of the truth??

i mean, come on, they're talking like no-one has super powers! ;-)

*sigh* silly silly sad people.  and they say they are objective.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: jmc on August 21, 2003, 11:38:08 PM
That's not too bad...I remember  a magazine my high school library would get [I went to a fundamentalist high school] that gave movies a rating of "Evil" if it was horror, involved the occult, or had dancing in it.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Cloudio on August 22, 2003, 06:12:00 PM
Complaining about superpowers?

Aren't these people worshipping a guy who walked on water?
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: wuggles451 on August 22, 2003, 07:39:54 PM
Thats the thing  Jesus had powers so if someone else has powers thats a false idol. I have a neighbor who wont let her kids (4 yrs through 10yrs old i believe) watch Cinderella because of magic nor pokemon becuase pikachew shoots lightning out his ass.

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on August 23, 2003, 02:02:32 AM
Although the arguments are the old standards "sex and nudity and violence, oh no!", I was actually kind of impressed by the fact that whoever wrote that article seemed to, for a psycho Bible-thumping lunatic, know their s**t about the genre.  A Michael Myers reference was dropped without even mentioning his last name, which acknowledges that these things are such a big part of the film world that even the religion-crazed hippies who read that site should know what's being talked about with no explanation.
And as for that punk taking advantage of the passed-out girl...if there's one thing horror movies love to do, it's dole out justice.  That guy got it but good, and so does every other mysogynistic creep in a horror flick.  I'd like to think horror films are our way of getting justice where otherwise there would be none.  If we don't have it in our power to actually go out and find and kill a rapist, then by God there's gonna be one splattered all over the screen so everyone knows just how we feel about that s**t.

Brother R

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: JohnL on August 24, 2003, 12:42:31 AM
The thing that bothered me about that site is that everything is looked at without any context at all. For example, sex is sex and a scene of a husband and wife having sex is considered just as bad as two teenagers going at it. Negative comments about God from a demonic bad guy are just as big an offense to him as if a nun had said them. From the few reviews I looked at, it seemed like he was more concerned with noting everything he didn't like than actually paying attention to the movie, since he didn't seem to get several plot points...
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on August 24, 2003, 02:08:20 AM
Yes, Jesus = magical hippy with superhero powers.  No one ever said religion wasn't retarded.  Wait...no, they probably did, but they were wrong.

Brother R

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: NEC on August 24, 2003, 02:41:42 PM
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I know!! They are addicted to what they think; their own opinions and stuff. It's just as bad as being addicted to heroin or crack. I've said it before and I'll say it again - If you don't like something, just turn it off! I've done it before and I'll do it again. It saves me the grief of watching something I don't like, as well as preserves freedom from censorship (which I think is one of the worst things).
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 26, 2003, 08:53:22 PM
What´s next?The National Homophobic Club reviewing"Queer As Folk"?
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: NEC on August 26, 2003, 08:57:47 PM
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Yikes!!

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 26, 2003, 08:58:49 PM
:)
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: NEC on August 26, 2003, 09:09:32 PM
All of this reviewing based on content does is make people feel bad when they have no reason at all to feel bad for watching certain movies, because they are doing nothing wrong. (When you get up to hardcore X and beyond the lines do become blurry though. I personally don't care for hardcore X-Rated stuff, but if you do like it, that's your business and not mine.) And then for the reviewer it gives them this false sense of moral superiority.

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 26, 2003, 09:11:18 PM
The Church has no bussiness reviewing horror movies.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Jim Hepler on August 28, 2003, 02:11:11 AM
The thing I don't get is they CLAIM to not take consider the reasons for occurences (so yes, they mention Jesus being beaten, etc, in a movie about Jesus) in film, then say "Oh, it has a good moral message at this point about how great Jesus is".
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: nshumate on August 28, 2003, 08:56:26 AM
wuggles451 wrote:

> I have a neighbor who wont let her kids (4 yrs through 10yrs old i believe) watch ...
> pokemon becuase pikachew shoots lightning out his ass.

Somehow, that seems like a good reason not to watch Pokemon, no matter your religious affiliation...

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Paul Hotbranch on August 28, 2003, 05:22:30 PM
I wonder what messages do they take from"Freddy VS Jason"...
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Chadzilla on August 28, 2003, 10:46:43 PM
Movieguide gave a critical rating of two stars (out of four, I assume) for Freddy Vs Jason, but they trashed it for its paganistic world view.

http://www.movieguide.org/index.cgi?Playing&08/15/200317.37.58#08/15/200317.37.58

Legalistic Fundies are so uptight! :)

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: JohnL on August 30, 2003, 05:58:03 AM
Just for fun, I decided to send some feedback to the CAPAlert site. I pointed out some technical flaws with the site, pointed out how he mis-understood some of the movies he watched (he said the end of The Art of War made no sense, because Snipes is obviously killed by the police, but then turns up in another country!), told him why I disagreed with many of his views and finally I asked why the entire site harps on the fact that they supposedly don't interpret the bible to fit today's society, but yet the page about sparing the rod when disciplining children is one big propaganda piece on how the passages that literally say to beat children actually mean to 'guide' them. (I didn't use those exact words)

I got a reply back that accused me of having sent a "tirade" of "hate and intolerance". About the problems with the site he said "Then don't use it", About mis-understanding the plots of movies he quoted me the standard text from the page saying that his got isn't to "get" the message of movies (since when is understanding a scene, "getting the message"?), and about the sparing the rod page, he actually claimed that back in the days that the bible was written, beating children was a locing method of teaching them(!), but that today, too many abuse the practice. He ended by accusing me of being a teenager on a quest for filth in movies and that I shouldn't bother to reply because he wouldn't even see the response. Talk about hate and intolerance. I expected maybe a reply along the lines of "I'm sorry you feel that way", but what I got sounded pretty un-christian to me. When I read anything on that site, all I can think of is Reverend Flavel from Porky's II.

I've been toying with the idea of sending him a reply from a different email address... :)
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: dean on August 30, 2003, 11:54:57 PM

"beating children was a locing method of teaching them(!), "

JohnL i applaud you for replying to their feedback section, it shows that whilst they may shout out self righteousness, they are really really ignorant.

i mean, when the bible was written, i think that it was acceptable to kill people for minor theft, the world was flat, and medicine was in limited supply.

i think they really need to update their views and quit living in the past.

well done!
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: NEC on August 31, 2003, 12:36:40 AM
JohnL - I applaude you, man! I would never have the guts to do what you did!

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Jim Hepler on August 31, 2003, 02:44:58 AM
He's also tried to sue people for linking to his page and other bulls**t, and threatened legal action against websites that mock him.

Matthew 5:39 - But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Many Christians don't follow this bit of advice, instead picking and choosing from Christ's teachings whatever suits them.  Of course, if they followed that bit (George Bush, I'm looking at you) we wouldn't be involved in constant military conflict, and that's just impossible for America to escape apparently.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: NEC on August 31, 2003, 06:03:14 AM
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Many people that support CapAlert would say that other 'so-called' Christians are doing the same thing whether it be watching 'bad' movies, listening to 'non-religious' music, or what have you. How is anyone of any decency supposed to respond to them if they were supposedly throw that in anyone's face?

Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Jim H on September 01, 2003, 01:26:27 PM
What is wrong with enjoying theatrics?  That's all that movies are - none of it is real.  They *MIGHT* have an argument if some Christian loved the Faces of Death series (or one of the clones), of which 1 out of 3 or so deaths are real in it.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: dean on September 02, 2003, 11:31:38 AM

i just read the review of the kevin smith movie dogma.

i just cannot believe that they got so many of the messages wrong.  sure it's not exactly an unblasphemous movie, i'll give them that, but BLOODY HELL, they get so many different ideas.

they completely missed the point that Loki and Bartelby [Matt Damon and Ben Affleck] were two angels kicked out of heaven.
heres what they said:

"Two characters who were supposed to be angels were the quintessential counterfeiters of the Scriptures -- one of them committed gunfire murder of an adulterer with as much regard for what he had done as if he had just sneezed"

now if they were kicked out of heaven, doesn't that imply that they weren't exactly the best angels out there?  i can understand that they didn't like the film, but they are just nitpicking every single negative thing that they could possibly find in the film and turning it negative.

objective my arse...
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Old MacDonald on September 02, 2003, 12:06:58 PM


 No wonder they're uptight about JvsF. It's about people who come back from the dead and smite sinners. Jason certinally honors his mother (who the hell WAS his father?) and seems to follow most of the other commandments. Freddy wasn't spared the rod and was born of a good Christian mother (so good, that she could appear after death.) He even seemed to be a dutiful husband and father. Seems like a couple of good Christian boys to me.
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: JohnL on September 02, 2003, 04:47:32 PM
>JohnL i applaud you for replying to their feedback section,

>JohnL - I applaude you, man!

Thanks for the kind words!

>and threatened legal action against websites that mock him.

Any in particular? :)

>i just cannot believe that they got so many of the messages wrong.

Forget getting messages in movies, they can't even read a ruler! In the review (sorry, "Analysis") of The Lizzie Mcquire Movie he says that teen girls repeatedly expose 4 inches of skin below the navel. In one scene he says that Lizzie is showing a patch of skin 6 inches wide and 5 inches high with her navel at the top. On a girl Hilary Duff's size, such an outfit would probably qualify as being crotchless!
Title: Re: Freddy & Jason take on the Fundamentalists...
Post by: Jim H on September 06, 2003, 01:55:29 AM
Actually, Matt Damon's angel was very true to the spirit of the old testament.  Read Leviticus sometime.