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Title: In search of monsters
Post by: Andrew on August 30, 2003, 01:47:42 PM
You know, I love monster movies.  Absolutely have to watch them all the time.

What I am a little depressed about is the lack of interesting monster movies being produced now.  Certainly, Stuart Gordon gives it a good try every few years, while Corman and Full Moon have/had their times.  Unfortunately, many of Full Moons and Corman's newer monster films stink.  Nothing like reused footage to make things boring.

There have been lots of films with "credible" monsters of late.  Giant sharks, huge pythons, cloned dragons, you got it.  I guess that I am looking for a bit more.  Here are some monsters that would be interesting, if used in a film:

Quickdeaths from the old scifi RPG "Alpha Dawn."  Set the movie on Voltronus too, with the Ul-mor.  It would probably seem like "Pitch Black," but, by gosh, a Quickdeath dashing across the landscape would rock.

What about a group of people trapped in a swamp (or on an island) with a giant snapping turtle?  I mean the size of a truck.  And, for once, how about the people not having ten different internal conflicts and arguments.

And an idea I have been tossing around for a long time is almost a remake of "Blood Beach" crossed with "Tremors," except set on the Carolina barrier islands.   This time insteal of a huge cornucopia, the beast looks more like a squid with barbed tentacles and a set of foward feet shaped like shovels.

Any other ideas?  Crusaders and priests fighting devils and demons in a doomed town (13th Century)?  A possessed human-shaped mass of straw that wanders the empty fields of the great plains?  Something from out space that looks like a ten meter centipede with claws and stingers taking up residence in subway tunnels?

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on August 30, 2003, 03:30:30 PM
Hardly modern, and hardly giant, but one of the deaths in one of my favorite creature features was by snapping turtle, and that would be "Frogs."

Title: space toads
Post by: Goon on August 30, 2003, 05:32:10 PM
I've always thought it would be cool to remake "Creeping Terror" using giant cane toads.  (you see Bobby, when a toad and a small car love each other very much.)  

Amplexus.  It's one word, it has the letter 'x' in it, and ends with the '-us' sound, and has something to do with cane toads.  In other words, it would make the worlds most perfect title.

You could call it "Amplexus:  The Creeping (croaking?  Hopping?) Terror."

-----ooo-'U'-ooo-------Kilroy was here.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Gecko brothers on August 30, 2003, 05:32:59 PM
Yeah we neeed more better monster movies  well there are some that looks good
Bubba Ho Tep(a Bruce Cambell who is suppose to be Elvis battles a mummy)
Tremors: the Prequel(worms)
Starship Troopers 2(bugs)
Underworld(werewolf vs. vampires)
House of the Dead(zombies)
Cabin Fever(creature is  a virus I think)
The Order(something about some type of demons)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre(remake how many add ons is that)
 that's all I know
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: JohnL on August 30, 2003, 07:11:17 PM
>What about a group of people trapped in a swamp (or on an island) with a giant
>snapping turtle? I mean the size of a truck.

"Look, the giant turtle is coming this way. Ok, everyone, it's time to pack up your stuff and move down the road a ways. Hurry up people, we've probably only got about 30-40 minutes before it gets here..."

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :)
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on August 30, 2003, 07:55:49 PM
Take it one step further, a giant toxic snail. Easily defeated by salt

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Mofo Rising on August 30, 2003, 10:10:03 PM
I like wuggles451's snail idea.  Question: How fast would it move?

It's been my dream for years to see a movie that takes Lovecraft's mythos and turns it into a giant monster movie without sacrificing (too much) of the creepy intelligence.  Let's see what the end of humanity really looks like when it's carried out by eldritch gods.  I mean, picture seeing Cthulhu destroy New York while you're standing at ground level as creepy bass-heavy music and chanting plays at top volume.

TREMORS in New York also sounds like a neat idea.

Here's one for Hollywood's infatuation with itself.  Aliens invade Earth by taking over our entertainment industry.  We could watch Hollywood's stars turn into giant killer versions of themselves.

Giant rampaging babies!  Clean them diapers!

Elemental golems representing the four horsemen of the apocalypse!

An apartment complex is slowly taken over by Khan-like brain worms!

And last but not least, killer cows!
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Andrew on August 30, 2003, 11:00:11 PM
JohnL wrote:

> "Look, the giant turtle is coming this way. Ok, everyone, it's
> time to pack up your stuff and move down the road a ways. Hurry
> up people, we've probably only got about 30-40 minutes before
> it gets here..."
>
> Sorry, I couldn't resist. :)

Ah, but hence them being on an island or in a swamp.  Humans are at a disadvantage in those situations, ones which the turtle is well adapted to surviving.

And on the snail movie, years ago I read a short story about giant (big as a shed) man eating snails on an island.  Wish I could remember which book that was in and who had written it.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on August 31, 2003, 12:43:10 AM
BEWARE! the vengefu,l man-eating, three towed sloth!

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Evil Matt on August 31, 2003, 05:14:07 AM
Okay, so there's this gigantic, radioactive dinosaur sleeping at the bottom of the pacific ocean, and he's awakened by nuclear testing, and he starts rampaging all over Tokyo, and...what?  What do you mean it's been done?
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: yaddo42 on August 31, 2003, 08:16:50 AM
I always wanted to see a movie inspired by the Frank Zappa song "Cheepnis" (sic) which includes a segment featuring a rampaging giant poodle dog. The song was about Zappa's love of old monster movies from the 50s and early 60s. The example he gave of what kind of films he like was "It Conquered The World".
Funny song.

Some friends and I used to talk about how instead of the usual "giant animal" movies with snakes, alligators, spiders, etc. they should make one featuring giant mutant catfish. Catfish feed at the spillways near a local dam and divers who have gone down there have reported fish in the 6 to 8 foot range. I've been told catfish have no genetic growth limit so monster sized fish could be vaguely possible, at least possible enough for a movie. They also have those whiskers which contain a kind of poison, so a giant catfish lunging at hapless swimmer victims could still be dangerous even if they miss.

Ever heard of gar fish? They're kind of like fresh water barracudas. We thought they might work in a monster movie as well, since they have nasty mouths full of needle sharp teeth and their sides are covered by lots of dense scales basically making them armored. So a giant one could be resistant to flank shots from bullets and small explosives in a movie.Trying to spear the real ones with a gig when I was younger was tough. Even when skewered they didn't die easy.
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on August 31, 2003, 02:03:55 PM
Has anyone seen the Eggo commercials or those juice commercials. They feature a man in a waffle suite and a tongue suite respectivly. I think it would be awsome to see some thing bizzare like  that destroy a city. A giant waffle oozing syrup and hurling atomic blue berries. In the climatic finally a bottle of Mrs Buttersworth is gigantasized and kicks some waffle ass.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Deej on August 31, 2003, 03:56:23 PM
Didn't someone do a flick with a machine-gun toting Kool-Aid man a few years back? I swear I saw that. I don't do drugs....I think it really happened. Giant Turtles on remote island...pretty creepy. The Gar idea is a good one. I used to work on a river boat on the Arkansas when I was a teen and we found ton's of gar skulls. The skulls alone are friggin spooky!

Living in the mid-west, the idea of a monster that looks like straw/wheat/tumbleweed is just damned frightening. Even more scary, a monster that looks like a dead possum or armadillo!

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Fearless Freep on August 31, 2003, 07:35:43 PM
And on the snail movie, years ago I read a short story about giant (big as a shed) man eating snails on an island. Wish I could remember which book that was in and who had written it.

I've read probably that same story....

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: gammaray117 on August 31, 2003, 09:02:15 PM
How about giant bats? The echolocation alone could shatter glass and have the same effect on a person as, say, a stun grenade. Kudos on the gar, catfish and snail ideas too.

"You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"-"Dr. Strangelove"
Title: Mrs. Butterworth vs. Aunt Jemima
Post by: Ash on August 31, 2003, 10:34:23 PM
Even cooler would be a giant Mrs. Butterworth vs. a giant Aunt Jemima!

They could shoot acidic syrup destroying everything in their paths!

And one of them would have the power to produce giant pancakes to fling at the other like frisbees and they would explode on impact!

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Brother Ragnarok on September 01, 2003, 02:54:59 AM
The turtle idea is cool.  I remember a painting in an old Ninja Turtles art gallery sort of book with them battling a huge snapping turtle (not Tokka, just a regular looking snapping turtle only about 30 feet long).
The tumbleweed creature is, I agree, very disturbing.  A moonlit Nebraska plain, a lonely road, a man out for a walk...
I know the story you're talking about, it was really damn good, and I haven't been able to find it either.  I read it in an extremely bizarre book from the library in my elementary school that had a bunch of other creepy and unusual horror fiction stories in it.  Not a book for most elementary students by any means, the subject matter and writing was pretty grown-up style, so of course I read it about a thousand times.
For that giant outer space centipede thing, read "Stinger" by Robert McCammon.  Very cool book.
And finally, my monster idea, dreamt up while I was on a fishing trip with my cousins this week, goblin sharks.  Creepy lookin' mothers.

Brother R

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Foywonder on September 01, 2003, 07:05:42 AM
Nuclear waste dumped in the Gulf of Mexico spawns giant mutant crawfish that attack New Orleans during Mardi Gras! Beware of D'EM!
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on September 01, 2003, 09:16:04 AM
Ok i have to admit the waffle idea is inspired by some weird Japanese type show where i saw a ham sandwich destroy a city. I searched "japanese sandwich monser" on yahoo and to my amazment i think i found it origins.

http://www.kaiju.com/

In short this is a pro wrestling federation where everyone is dressed as a giant monster...such as a cup of noodles or Boxhead. I recomend watching some of the video clips i may even purchase a DVD once i get the money.

I checked back the DVD is released Sept. 30 and is only $14.99



Post Edited (09-01-03 09:26)
Title: Re:Kaiju Big Battel
Post by: Foywonder on September 01, 2003, 09:51:38 AM
They're aren't exactly a secret. Its about time the DVD comes out. They've only been hyping it for damn near a year.
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on September 01, 2003, 10:23:31 AM
Really where was I?.... Oh yeah in the middle of fuggin nowhere  Pennsylvania.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: AndyC on September 01, 2003, 04:58:10 PM
'In His House at R'lyeh Dead Cthulhu waits dreaming'

I like the idea of Cthulhu trashing New York. Meanwhile, a group of scholars at Miskatonic University, led by Jeffrey Combs, must search for a solution in the fabled Necronomicon.

Still, one of the reasons Lovecraft's work hasn't translated well into film is that a visual medium doesn't do justice to his monsters. He devotes so many words simply to describe how indescribable they are. A filmaker would have a tough time with a creature so horrible mortal men cannot look upon it without going mad.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: AndyC on September 01, 2003, 05:15:41 PM
The people dressed as food made me think of a weird porno movie a friend showed me years ago. The starlet falls asleep while making breakfast, then dreams she's having a threesome with a slice of bread and a box of Cream of Wheat. Seriously, one guy is in a big foam bread costume, and the other is wearing a giant Cream of Wheat box, and he's grinning away in a chef's hat in a window in the front of the box. The costumes had holes elsewhere, but I won't elaborate.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: AndyC on September 01, 2003, 05:21:28 PM
Here's a monster that, to my knowledge, has yet to appear. Imagine a giant jack-o-lantern, walking on bird legs. It swallows children, transforms them into chickens and spits them back out again.

This was actually drawn by a kid in my class in about grade two or three. It was just disturbing enough to be memorable after about 25 years.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Fearless Freep on September 01, 2003, 05:28:59 PM
Sounds crazily similar to some Russian falk tales

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Deej on September 01, 2003, 08:39:34 PM
Foywonder wrote:

> Nuclear waste dumped in the Gulf of Mexico spawns giant mutant
> crawfish that attack New Orleans during Mardi Gras! Beware of
> D'EM!

Alright...now that's just frikkin' FUNNY!!

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: wuggles451 on September 01, 2003, 11:15:44 PM
AndyC  said:

>The people dressed as food made me think of a weird porno movie a friend >showed me years ago

Wow. I am practically at a loss for words. Just wow. Please tell me you remember the title.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Dave:Blackeye15 on September 02, 2003, 12:29:59 AM
HOW ABOUT A GIANT SNAKE! LIKA ANACONDA! OR MAYBE A GIANT CROCIDALE!! OR EVEN BETTER A ALIGATOR!!

Ok seriously I got a nice idea: This all started back when I was in my first yeah of Middle school. I was watching a boring movie in one of my classes and when I get bored I think in Hyber mode in my head, during Hyber Mode I think up some pretty crazy stuff you see, and I pictured this Rat Creature killing off the characters of this one old kids show that use to be on Nick Junior call Eurika's Castle. I thought the idea was pretty funny so I wrote a story of it in my head, two days later I told my older brother the story , it was full of blood and kinda dark humor and some humor that you'd only get if you saw the show. Anyway he liked it and I started doing sequals..now often this is a no-no in entertainment but in some cases ,Tremors,Final Fantasy,Mad Max, Star Wars, it was a great idea. So far It's gone from #1)Eurika's Castle  #2)The Busy World of Richard Scary #3)Rupert  #4)Little Bear  #5)Frankln #6)(Which my brother did) Gumby and currntly I'm in the middle of #7) Allegra's Window. I really have nothing against these kid's show it's just a odd..traditions, of having the Rat Creature killing of the characters in a gory,slightly dark humor, and funny way. Now these would make nice little films I'd say.

-the first rule of fat club-
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: AndyC on September 02, 2003, 11:36:37 AM
wuggles451 wrote:

> Wow. I am practically at a loss for words. Just wow. Please
> tell me you remember the title.

Unfortunately, I don't remember the title. I was hoping somebody here might know.

Title: Re: Bingo
Post by: AndyC on September 02, 2003, 11:47:13 AM
A quick search of Google has turned up the title. It's called Nightdreams.

There's a little blurb on this site:
http://www.pifmagazine.com/vol18/remote.shtml

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Flangepart on September 02, 2003, 12:46:22 PM
Cthulhu Vs. Godzilla! Check out the site RODAN"S ROOST for the fan fiction tale of that lil encounter!
Hummm.....
Radioactive tooth scrapeings escape from the dentist office in Alamagordo, NM, and prowl the night, looking to steal the whole jaws of unsuspecting people in : PLAQUE ATTACK!
Tag line : Another reason to fear  the dentist.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: JohnL on September 02, 2003, 04:56:43 PM
>An apartment complex is slowly taken over by Khan-like brain worms!

Something similar was done in Shivers AKA They Came from Within. Parasites developed to take the place of damaged organs get loose, infecting the people in an apartment complex turning them into sex-crazed psychos.
Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on September 06, 2003, 04:22:11 PM
Not so crazy. The witch Baba Yaga, who lived in a house built on stilts, except the stilts were giant chicken legs. I'm showing my age, but I read enjoyed reading about her and her cat, in the old children's magazine "Jack 'n' Jill," if anybody else here is old enough to remember that magazine.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on September 06, 2003, 04:25:10 PM
Has everybody here read that story. I read it, not in a book, but in the old "Saturday Evening Post" magazine. Of course, it could have been published first in a book, then in the magazine, or in the magazine, then in the book. I can't remember the title of the story, or the author, but, I still remember that ending.

Title: Re: In search of monsters
Post by: Susan on September 06, 2003, 04:32:28 PM
I'm currently reading a book "Ice Hunt" which for the most part has alot of international espionage stuff but the part of the book i'm enjoying most is near the polar ice cap there's a discovery within this giant ice glacier which has caverns inside are these ancient beasts that are the size of a bull..skin white and smooth like a whale with sonar capabilities which they communicate with eachother and locate prey. They were thawed out and like some species of frog, came back to life, to everyones suprise. They also have large gnashing teeth like a shark..formed legs which help them propel across the ice very fast and will stop at nothing to eat you. A great part was when one woman ice skating through the dark caverns came to a stop and beyond the light of her helmet in the blackness..saw two red eyes peering at her. Then the mass began to come at her and she turned around racing as fast as she could..everytime she glanced back it there...coming after her. Until she came to a dead end..lost her balance and fell into a pit. - where it began it's descent to join her......