I missed a few episodes of this show but I managed to watch the finale tonight. What a friggin joke!
The girl ended up sending every normal & "average Joe" home & it came down to 2 good looking guys...one was a millionaire & decent looking & the one she eventually chose wasn't rich but had movie star looks.
WTF!!!???
The name of the show was "AVERAGE JOE!!!!!!"
This for me was one of the biggest load of s**t letdowns I've ever witnessed on TV.
What a shallow b***h.
She missed the point of the entire show & eliminated every single average looking guy!
Why in the hell would the producers decide to "inject" handsome model guys halfway through the show in the first place when if they just remembered the show's title, they would never do such a thing.
It's not often that a TV show has me talking to it out loud at the finale but this one definitely did it.
I was saying, "Oh what a bunch of crap!" You stupid woman!!"
Even worse, "Average Joe 2" has already been shot and will air in January.
AHHHH!! f**king TV producers I tell ya....they need to be repeatedly flogged on national TV!
Post Edited (12-09-03 13:18)
God!! you actually bothered to watch anouther one of those dumb ass reality shows.There dumbing down the rest of are nation and we don't need you to go with them.I mean think of it, if the rest of the people on this forum started watching those shows then I might becomes the most inteligent, thought provoking person on this forum.AHHHHHHHHH THOUGHT TOO HORRIBLE TO COMPREHEND.I think I need a hug now.
But back to reality.Personally I view reality shows as one of the absolute dumbest things ever put on tv.Why do people watch these shows? Honestly, the situations in these shows are NOT f**kING REALITY.
I didn't realize that TV producers were bound by honor to not screw with "concept" of their own "reality" shows. Don't these high-concept game shows (and that's all they really are) always try to throw a twist in there to shake things up for the contestants and the viewers? Theses shows may not be scripted the way regular dramas and sitcoms are, but the folks who make them still know how to add in plot twists to keep the action going or manipulate things just like soap operas or the WWE.
Just look how worked up you seem to be over this show, mission accomplished in the eyes of the producers I'd say.
I remain convinced that these shows ARE scripted, and the 'participants' are low rent actors. I cannot prove this, of course, but I do find what they do and say is really hard to believe.
I watched Ave. Joe cuz my wife wanted to ... I hate ALL these programs, but enjoy hanging out with her, so there you go. In any case, I pegged that chick as very very shallow from the get-go (the first episode I saw was the one where they brought in the 'hunks').
As for last night's episode, I was a little ticked off at the way her little speech to the guy she kept had the tone and language of a dumping, and while she was dumping the other guy, she was laughing and saying stuff about how she really liked him. It was all so put-on, it was disgusting.
But hey, look at it this way, while so many in America are wrapped up in who the dumb chick on Ave Joe will pick, they are probably NOT thinking about values, morality, helping the poor/hungry, what the government is up to, earning a living, bettering themselves, etc. You know, the kind of stuff most of us real 'average joes' deal with every day.
Think we'll ever see "Average Jane?"
Diden't think so........
I knew better than to watch that lame show. It's f**king disgusting how the Network exceutive a-holes really think that we can fall for the same tricks over and over again. What am I saying?! People think Fear Factor is awesome now days. Someone hit the lever and flush this society forever!!!!
Dude, relax, it's just tv :)
My wife's a doctor and believe it or not she enjoys Fear Factor (though I hate it on its face) ... she just likes watching people making idiots of themselves. She works (80-90 hours per week) in a Children's Hospital and her (sometimes very young) patients do die. Sometimes, she just wants silliness to blow things off for an hour or so.
Personally, I'd prefer if FF and Ave. Joe and Temptation Island and all these dumb shows would get canned...forever. But SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE must be watching them (in truth, I don't think my wife would miss them if they went away). If I had my way, tv would be 90% MOVIES and 10% all the stupid crap that's on now. But they did not ask me my opinion.
BTW, I caught Jerry Springer the other day...have not seen it in a couple years.. now every episode they have chicks taking off their clothes, and chicks in the audience even baring themselves. Man, I thought that show was at the bottom, but it sank even further. I'm not even talking about the story lines....
Man Springer is about as fake as you can get, and this is coming from a Pro-Wrestler.I new a guy who went on that show and played a super racist skin head, but in real life hes dating a black girl.Its all fake.
>I new a guy who went on that show and played a super racist skin head, but in real life hes dating a black girl.Its all fake.
Geez... Wasn't he afraid of the serious negative response he'd might get from strangers?
>>I new a guy who went on that show and played a super racist skin head, but in real life hes dating a black girl.Its all fake.
>Geez... Wasn't he afraid of the serious negative response he'd might get from strangers?
I wouldn't be.
1- Who (of significance, at least) watches Springer on a regular basis anymore?
2- Of these people, who would actually commit the person's face to memory?
3- Of those people, who would actually recognize him anyway?
All in all, not really much to fear there.
wyckednick wrote:
> Man Springer is about as fake as you can get, and this is
> coming from a Pro-Wrestler.I new a guy who went on that show
> and played a super racist skin head, but in real life hes
> dating a black girl.Its all fake.
>
Yeah, that was my point above about ALL these stupid shows...I think they are all scripted, fake. Survivor, Average Joe, The Bachelor, etc etc ad nauseum. The descriptor 'reality show' is just marketing. There are so many out-of-work actors just dying to get on tv ... 'yeah, I'll play a dumb blonde torn between two guys.'
It's kinda like those people on commercials who say "I'm a doctor and I recommend Children's Tylenol" then two years later they are playing a ditzy wife on some sitcom.
The ending sequence on Average Joe last night enforces my supposition - if you saw it, you know what I mean. While she was dumping the one guy and 'saving' the other one, it was an attempt at a total manipulation. Who would do that to someone after ALL those dumb 'asides' about how much she cares about both of them? (Okay, she COULD just be a cold hearted b*tch who like manipulating guys..).
>>The girl ended up sending every normal & "average Joe" home & it came down to 2 good looking guys...one was a millionaire & decent looking & the one she eventually chose wasn't rich but had movie star looks.<<
It doesn't help they intentionally seek the most shallow girl in America because they know this will create more shock value for her. I thought it was pretty obvious she would pick off the nerds and keep the two jocks (even tho one of them she kept repeatedly saying was a jerk but there was hope for him. Why not pick the guy who isn't a jerk? or the guy who had a temper tantrum on the golf course..hehe) Then in the end she picks....the eyelash man with the personality of a wet noodle.Maybe she thought picking the guy with the money would look shallow. They're gonna have another one..imagine that.
I thought it would be great to have the Average Jolene - except with the twist of having a butt ugly girl with a nice personality be the one who chooses among a group of very good looking men..hehe. Imagine THEIR horror. I somehow think the show would never work vice verse with the guy choosing amongst average women...because guys really are focused on looks more than women (it was actually a shocker for me she picked wet noodle..most superficial women will choose money over looks)
Ultimately the first "reality shows" were more reality..people were just regular folks. But since ANYONE can be an instant star with 15 minutes of fame with little effort and reality shows are a dime a dozen, you can tell most of the folks on the show are performing. They may not have a script but these are wannabe celebrities who are looking at this as an audition in getting them a real gig.
ulthar wrote:
BTW, I caught Jerry Springer the other day...have not seen it in a couple years.. now every episode they have chicks taking off their clothes, and chicks in the audience even baring themselves. Man, I thought that show was at the bottom, but it sank even further. I'm not even talking about the story lines....
Same here, it's like a train wreck you can't look away. Every damn day women (who i highly suspect are street hookers looking for a little money, hotel stay and free plane ride to chicago..note most of them are from the south) are stripping and fighting over a one toothed man who has spent way too much of his welfare check on beer and not enough on hygeine. At lunch it would be on in our breakroom, people glued in more disbelief that anyone has such little dignity that for any sum they would strip down on national tv (hence the hooker theory).
However the powers that be left a notice on the television one day:
"All inappropriate programming (ie: Jerry Springer) will not be permitted during lunch hours. Failure to comply will result in removal of the television"
With that in mind: We have a 1970's trinitron tv which picks up 2 other stations. Since nobody speaks spanish we're forced to watch some court show and wonder, "aren't we all adults here?"
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Susan wrote:
> However the powers that be left a notice on the television one
> day:
> "All inappropriate programming (ie: Jerry Springer) will not be
> permitted during lunch hours. Failure to comply will result in
> removal of the television"
>
> With that in mind: We have a 1970's trinitron tv which picks up
> 2 other stations. Since nobody speaks spanish we're forced to
> watch some court show and wonder, "aren't we all adults here?"
>
Susan, you COULD bring in a disk of Plan 9 and give your coworkers something FUN to watch!
Just a thought....
Hmmm... I suppose you're right.
...Did you ever see the Crying Game? Assuming you did, remember the story about the scorpion and the frog?
There's no point blasting TV producers for jerking you around and pulling a bait and switch on their reality TV show - it's their nature! You may as well yell at the clouds for raining on your day off.
Take the lesson for what it's worth and NEVER watch any crap like that again. You're too astute a movie-watcher to be wasting your time with reality shows. Just some friendly advice.
>>Susan, you COULD bring in a disk of Plan 9 and give your coworkers something FUN to watch!<<
wow, if only we had a vcr :-)
One day I tried putting it on happy days, somebody walked in and said "Who put this crap on?" and switched it to springer.
I actually threw around the idea of buying a portable dvd player just so i could watch movies on my lunch break..and any other time i feel like it..lol
I have to put up with my coworkers who are not exposed to the movieworld. By that I mean i work with people who have never even seen "airplane" for cryin out loud. I need to be emersed in a work environment with more people like me
Some tv shows of reality must be real.
Some tv shows of reality must be real.
KLOP2 wrote:
> Some tv shows of reality must be real.
>
Like what?? The news is not even real anymore; they pose and set up shots, edit interveiws to say what THEY want said (maybe not always, but OFTEN), etc.
Back during hurricane Isabel, there was that shot of one reporter flying off camera from the wind that everyone thought was so spectacular ... then a few days later it came out that there was a crowd of people standing across the street (including the cameraman, who was not moving) watching the whole thing with casual interest. In short, it was a stunt.
TV is about one thing - selling advertising. Advertising itself is generally based on falsehood (the seven techniques of adverstising happen to correspond nicely with the seven fallacies of logic), so why should the mechnanism to get you to watch the advertising not also be based on falsehood? If they can get more people to watch some stupid show by calling it "Reality, " they will.
Fear Factor is a good example..how can you call that reality? Who eats horse rectums, for crying out loud? And those stunts .. they all have safety mechanisms built into them to PREVENT INJURY!! They are Hollywood stunts, designed and supervised by stuntmen. They even say that at the beginning of the show. The only scary thing about doing them is trusting the safety equipment.
And Survivor is just as dumb ... anyone who has been in a hairy survival situation must look upon that crap with pure disdain. First of all, you don't backbite and stab each other in the back in that situation ... your chances of survival increase exponentially by WORKING TOGETHER.
The fact that all of those shows follow the same format (a little supposed real action, a couple of 'aside' interviews in which sometimes really ugly things are said, 'suprises' to shake things up, etc) also helps support my thesis. Reality is not predictable and is not so easily made to follow a mold.
Anyway, enough from my soap box .. I don't doubt that many find these shows entertaining, but I think it can hardly be argued they are what the are pretending to be.
Ulthar : You stold the verbal emissions right out of my oral cavity.
Survivor is crap!
Its a grungy form of popularity contest, nothing more.
Reality T.V. can bite my shorts.
>Fear Factor is a good example..how can you call that reality? Who eats horse
>rectums, for crying out loud? And those stunts .. they all have safety mechanisms
>built into them to PREVENT INJURY!! They are Hollywood stunts, designed and
>supervised by stuntmen. They even say that at the beginning of the show. The
>only scary thing about doing them is trusting the safety equipment.
I've always considered Fear Factor to be a game show, not a "reality" show. Sure, there's a winner on Survivor and those other shows, but they drag the premise out. With only a couple exceptions, each episode of Fear Factor is self-contained and there's a winner on each one. None of the people are voted off, they're eliminated by failing the stunts.
I agree... all of these shows in the Fear Factor, Survivor, The Bachelor mold(s) are more like game shows. They are contests for financial (or other????) gain, just modernized versions of The Dating Game, Truth or Consequences (I am really dating myself), etc.
None of them are 'reality' in my opinion ... the term reality to describe ANY of these shows is akin to 'New and Improved' on my Nabisco crackers.