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Title: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Scott on January 31, 2004, 09:59:07 PM
JEEPERS CREEPERS II (2003) - Some good stuff here in this film. I know all the stories about the director and it was much more obvious in this film than the first one. I'm wondering if I would have noticed if I hadn't heard about what the director did.

The creature itself is like the legendary mothman from THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES. The most grusome parts are the tooth and belly button they find in those flying star things that he blew out those tires on the bus with. The best part is the older guy who uses the harpoon gun to bring the creature down and he keeps the creature in his barn for 23 more years waiting for it to awaken while charging money as an exhibit. What happened to the Jeepers Creepers song at the end of the first one? I liked the first one better.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Max Gardner on February 01, 2004, 01:27:00 AM
Meh, I liked the first hour of the first movie.  It was tense and innovative and, at first, the Creeper wasn't just some jackass in a monster suit.  Then it all went to hell.  Still, I suppose the sequel can't be all bad if it has Leland Palmer from Twin Peaks wielding a harpoon cannon.
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Ellie on February 01, 2004, 02:34:05 AM
The part where the monster pulled its own head off was creepy. Or the way it peered into the bus upside down.
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Ash on February 01, 2004, 02:52:02 AM
Scott....

I've noticed that you never put the word SPOILERS before a movie you talk about where you give away IMPORTANT details.

I have not seen this film..

You ruined it for me.

Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: FearlessFreep on February 01, 2004, 02:58:13 AM
I've noticed that you never put the word SPOILERS before a movie you talk about where you give away IMPORTANT details.

 I sorta assume it anytime a thread has a movie title as the subject that it's going to talk about stuff from the movie and that probably will include spoiler material

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: wickednick on February 01, 2004, 04:41:29 AM
Call me ignorant but Im just curious what was the story behind the director.I always hear about it but I never get the full story.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: MoonShadow on February 01, 2004, 05:14:54 PM
There's a huge argument going over at the message boards at IMDB under this film's title about the director. You should be able to gleam most of the juicy details from there...
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: I luv dolma on February 01, 2004, 06:16:03 PM
BOTH MOVIES ROCK! I CANNOT BELIEVE ALL THIS NEGATIVE VIBE THAT I AM GETTING FROM THE CRITICS AND EVERYONE!
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: JohnL on February 01, 2004, 08:43:59 PM
>Call me ignorant but Im just curious what was the story behind the director.I
>always hear about it but I never get the full story.

Years ago he made a movie called Clownhouse about some criminals dressing up as clowns and menacing some young boys. During the making of that movie, he molested one of the stars. Many of his movies feature boys with their shirts off or in their underwear. Watching Clownhouse, you're not sure if you're watching a movie or an ad for boy's underwear.
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: wickednick on February 02, 2004, 01:08:08 AM
Thats f**king sick.I used to think Jeepers Creepers was a decent movie but after Ive heard that, I say f**k this guy.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Neville on February 02, 2004, 06:52:42 AM
I felt quite disappointed with this one. I haven't seen "Clownhouse" or "Powder", the other films by Salva, but I think that while the man has a real talent for the bizarre and creating atmospheres (the dreamlike attack that opens the film is great), he is not very good at building a pace or at telling a story. If he does a number three, I hope he hires somebody to co-write the script.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Scott on February 02, 2004, 08:16:02 PM
Perhaps I did get carried away with this one. The post did kinda give away the best parts, but I do kinda agree with Freep. Sorry about that ASHTHECAT. I have also had people say I'm to vague when I state how great/interesting a film is and ask for more. Maybe I'll put the warning "SPOILERS" on the next time.

Sometimes you can give away "SPOILERS" to give people reason enough to watch a film. JEEPERS CREEPERS II may be just such a film. Alot of critizism on this film.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: JohnL on February 03, 2004, 11:49:59 PM
>Thats f**king sick.I used to think Jeepers Creepers was a decent movie but
>after Ive heard that, I say f**k this guy.

Here are a couple sites where you can read more about Victor Salva and what he did;

Hollywood's favorite child molestor  (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20030924.shtml)
Victim protests movie (http://www.vachss.com/mission/disney.html)
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Ash on February 05, 2004, 04:30:59 AM
I just watched this and it was pretty good!

I have a great idea for the 3rd installment and will be writing a story for it for eventual submission...
My idea should take no longer than a few months to complete...hopefully.

The Creeper is a great original character and one could write many different variations of its evildoings.

I've already started on it tonight.
I have the outline for the entire story in my head...all I need to do is put it down on paper.
I need to get busy on it so that narrative cutting edge does not dull.



Post Edited (02-05-04 17:29)
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Neville on February 05, 2004, 08:53:22 AM
LOL! This is what happens when I suggest Salva needs a co-writer. Now seriously, if you want my opinion, don't make the whole plot revolve around a single situation, such as Salva did on JC II, and try to make the transition between scenarios / scenes / fluid and consistant (this was sort of a problem on the first movie IMHO). I'd like to hear something about it when you're done.

Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: Velvet Brotha on February 05, 2004, 11:56:39 AM
I kinda think JC II was a little better than the first. Only because the scenes were a little more exciting. I had no idea that the Director was the sick muther that he is but he, it's Hollywood... it's a different world and we shouldn't be prejudice.  ; )
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: JohnL on February 07, 2004, 02:06:36 AM
I just saw JC2 tonight. I mostly liked it, although the stupidity of the characters drove me up the wall. "Gee, there's a weird demonic creature trying to kill us, let's stop and completely ignore the creature while we argue..." I don't know about anyone else, but rather than hang onto the hibernating creature, I'd chop it up into little pieces and toss them into a furnace.
Title: Re: Jeepers Creepers II (2003)
Post by: FearlessFreep on February 07, 2004, 11:21:20 AM
I'm 35 years old, I have a wife and five kids.  Most of these movies don't really appeal to me because they're not aimed at people my age anyway.  I sorta realized that last year when I watched all the "Nightmare on Elm Street" movies and realized they weren't as scary to me as they could be or as they were when I first saw them.  I realized "the movies are really aimed at teens and young adults", which is not meant as a criticism of them som much as just an honest realization of who they are for and I'm not it..

"Changing Lanes" with Samuel Jackson and Ben Affleck, on the other hand, *really* scared me because it's much more a situation I could see myself accidentally falling into.  At my age and lifestyle, I don't worry about supernatural homicidal killers, I have nightmares about unemployment, mortgage payments and health insurance :)

Title: Oh Jebus (Mild spoilers?)
Post by: Brock on February 07, 2004, 12:05:17 PM
I have 2 main problems with "Jeepers Creepers 2".

1) The Creeper spends almost the entire movie airborne.  He is constantly swooping down to get people and then flying off with them.  Which is all well and good, but in the first movie they didn't show that he had wings until like an hour or so into the movie.  I mean, he drove a truck to get around.  If he really prefers flying that much, and appears to be essentially dependent on it, he should have spent just as much time doing flying in the first movie.  It's like admitting the only reason they waited was for the cinematic reveal.

2) They really dropped the ball on the sequel plotwise.  After seeing the first one, I thought they set up for two very cool follow-ups.  They say that the Creeper comes every 23 years, right?  So I thought if they did another one, it'd be a prequel, set either 23 years previous when that first couple they were talking about got the axe, or, better yet, 46 years previous when the black psychic was still in high school in the 50's, so they could work in a whole "Carrie" like subplot or whatever.
     I'd like to think they still might do one of those ideas if they do a third one, but after seeing the direction they went with #2, I think they're much more likely to make it even more outlandish and bizarre.  My new theory?  The Creeper takes on characteristics of whoever he eats, right?  But he still looks all deformed, and like, how did he get the wings?  There must be something else in his diet.  And considering his ability to fly...he must eat Martians!  Coming soon to a theater near you, "Jeepers Creepers 3: In space, no one can hear you jeepie-creep."