Gee I get into work around 12:30, and not one post yet on Return sweeping the Oscars? Peter Jackson even mentioned Meet the Feebles and Bad Taste in his acceptance speech (probably the only time those movies will ever be mentioned at that show).
This was the first time in at least 20 years I actually sat through most of the show. It was ok, but not like I've been missing anything (I can't stand award shows).
Thoughts on who won, or should've won?
I was quite pleased that Peter Jackson won for Best Director and impressed that he mentioned BAD TASTE and MEET THE FEEBLES (what, no BRAINDEAD), which shows that he is still proud of his earlier work. Jackson really deserved the Oscars. And now because of this, Jackson will be able to work more within the film system. However, I do wish he would make just one more horror-splatter-comedy for old times sake. I like THE LORD OF THE RINGS trillogy, but his earlier work speaks more volumes than ever before.
Now, will Blue Underground please obtain BRAINDEAD for an "Ultimate Edition" DVD release with the tagline reading "From the Academy Award winning director of THE LORD OF THE RINGS." It would be great.
I was pretty pleased, but very surprised. I liked ROTK the least of the three films and figured that the voters only judged the films one at a time, not as an entire work. I thought that if the previous two films didn't do it that this one certainly wouldn't. A nice vindication for Jackson.
However, I don't think this will mean a greater acceptance for science fiction and fantasy films at the Oscars...unless their source material is as good as Tolkien.
. . . . Perhaps the ending of "King Kong" will include a giant splatter. And if I know my primates, they tend to excrete and play with themselves, I know it's not duct tape and staples, but maybe, maybe...
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I caught most of the show.
It was pretty good except for Sean Penn winning best actor.
I haven't seen Mystic River yet but I have never liked Penn.
I could never put my finger on why I've disliked him either.
I think it's his physical appearance. Who knows?
Johnny Depp's performance in Pirates of the Carribean should've taken it.
When they announced Penn's name as the winner I said out loud, "Aw that's bulls**t!"
Oh well...
Boring show in my opinion. Glad LOTR finally got Best Picture. It bugs me though that the first two were passed over so they could reward him for all three on the third one. I liked ROTK slightly less than the other two too, and I really thought the first two were the best pictures of those years. Frankly I think Master and Commander was right up there with ROTK and could have won too. I hate when Oscars reward people for stuff from previous years because someone always gets screwed.
LOTR was the inevitable winner this year. I haven't seen the third installment yet (I'm waiting for the director's cut DVD). I'm certainly not a LOTR worshipper (I have never read the books, I have seen the first movie once and I am only half way through the second), but I will go on record as saying that it is probably the greatest trilogy of all time (yes, better than the original 3 STAR WARS movies). THE GODFATHER would be the greatest trilogy of all time if they hadn't messed up part 3.
It did bother me a little bit too, it seems to me that the Oscars should be based on a single year, and everything that happened before that period shouldn't be considered. But of course people can and do consider past years, the same way they give acting Oscars for subpar performances just because the person "deserves it" for earlier work.
The LOTR trilogy is much better than the Godfather as a whole [even though the first two Godfather films are way above any of the LOTR films] just because the Godfather story should have ended after the second film. I'd say it's also better than Star Wars just because the source material is much better.
It was good to see Jackson get some offical Hollywood recognition. Glad he won best Dir/Picture. Good job!
Did kind of bother me that Sofia Coppola cleaned up at the oscars. Lost In Translation was decent but not life changing as many believe. It was way too overrated. American Splendor should have won the best adapted story award because Harvey Pekar's work is amazing.
It was also good to see Charlieze (sp?) Theron get best actress. I haven't seen Monster yet, so I'm having to go on the opinion of the reviews I have read which all praised this film. I do believe that Naomi Watts had what it took to win the Oscar with her work in 21 Grams which is quite possibly the best film I saw of last year.
I agree with Ash about the best male Oscar. Sure we all know that Sean Penn is an amazing actor (and director). But, why not Depp? He is quite possibly one of the best actors of our time and very few seem to realize it. Haven't seen Mystic River yet so I can't really say that Penn didn't deserve it for the film. It just would have been nice to see Depp really get some appreciation.
I saw the whole show, by myself, with my dogs and Ice cream...substitute dogs with cats....and I've turned into an old lady. I like Sean Penn, but I also was hoping Johnny Depp would win, and I also liked Jude Law in Cold Mountain(yeah, I liked Cold Mountain).Good for Charlize Theron and Renee Zelwatsit. Was hoping the Cold Mountain songs would win, because they is folksy and I is an OKIE! Thought it was hysterical how towards the end people were thanking LOTR for NOT being nominated in their category.
As for LOTR beating The Godfather out for best trilogy of all time. YOU'RE INSANE!!!!! The Godfather....handsdown...I even thought Part 3 was okay. The Godfather...I say..LOTR is just a passing fad, like horseless carriages and the rock and roll. GET OFF MY LAWN....damn kids!
I just didn't get the LOTR thing, not saying it's bad....I just don't get it. I am happy that Peter JAckson has done so well, as I am a fan. My favorite trilogies, In descending order:
The Godfather
The Musketeers Trilogy (by Richard Lester)
Indiana Jones.....because I grew up with them and they really should just leave it!!! No number 4..no number 4....number 4 would more appropriately titled "Number 2".
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Deej,
Right on about LOTR. My wife is one of the semi-fantatics when it comes to Tolkien. I myself was never really that enthusied about the films having only read the Hobbit back in grade school.
Star Wars and The Godfather series are the absolute best trilogies of all time. LOTR is good, but not great.
Godfather 3 is one of the worst films ever made by a supposedly "great' director.
The movie just didn't need to be made, though the main reason it failed is probably due to Sofia Coppola. It's a good thing she's decided to become a director because she sure can't act.
It sounds like everyone hated the actual Oscar show this year. I haven't actually watched it in years, but I'm always interested in who wins.
I don't know if there's ever been a trilogy where all three films were great. There's always one weak link, and a lot of the time it's the final film.
I agree about Sofia Coppola. Terrible horrible sad acting. Ugh. I just wanna vomit when hearing her talk. BORING!
I agree on Depp. He's one of those actors I don't really want to like, just because of his "Hollywood Heartthrob" reputation, but the more I see of his work, the more I realize he's a damn good actor. His portrayal of Hunter S. Thompson in Fear & Loathing has become one of my all-time favorite performances.
Also, I knew it'd never happen in a million years, but does anyone else think Crispin Glover should've at least gotten a nod for Willard?
Ack!
I forgot all about Fear & Loathing. Amazing stuff.
As for Williard.....I'm gonna have to disagree. Didn't like that film too much.
Gee I get into work around 12:30, and not one post yet on Return sweeping the Oscars?
Sorry..was paying attention.
"Did kind of bother me that Sofia Coppola cleaned up at the oscars."
Cleaned up? She got thrown best adapted screenplay as a bone. What bothered me about that is that she got the bone because of who daddy was. I haven't seen Lost in Translation yet (probably will just for Bill Murray), but the other Sofi-directed movie I've seen ("The Virgin Suicides") was absolute garbage in my opinion. It made little sense and the social commentary was about as subtle as an anvil dropped from six stories.
Best *original* screenplay. Best adapted went to . . . take a wild guess. . .
Peter Jackson, et al., for Return of the King.
I haven't seen Lost in Translation, so I can't tell whether the Oscar was deserved or not.
No one I know who has seen it has liked it.
"Best *original* screenplay. Best adapted went to . . . take a wild guess. .."
Right - my bad.
FearlessFreep wrote:
> Gee I get into work around 12:30, and not one post yet on
> Return sweeping the Oscars?
>
> Sorry..was paying attention.
That's alright, just make sure it never happens again .
That's alright, just make sure it never happens again .
Probably will, I didn't know what night they were on and only realized LotR had one anything because there was something about it on the IMDB site when I was looking for something else ("Creepazoids", I think)
It was a great (set of) movie(s) but Oscars don't interest me
Hell yes! Crispin was awesome in Willard, who deserved some recognition for it.
They usually don't interest me either. I only watched because there was nothing on tv that night, I wanted to see how Return of the King would do, and I didn't have to get up in the morning on Monday.