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Title: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Ash on March 03, 2004, 06:35:55 PM
Many of you have seen the latest Pizza Hut commercials starring The Muppets.

Seeing them just makes me wish that they'd bring back The Muppet Show!
I'm talking all new shows starring ALL of the old Muppets with new celebrity guests.
That would be so cool!
I'd definitely watch it.

I have always been a big fan of The Muppets since I was a boy and I think bringing them back could make them bigger than ever.

If they did, I could only hope that they'd leave out cheesy guests like Justin Timberlake or Ricky Martin or....well I could go on & on.

Would you watch an all new Muppet Show if they brought it back and what guests would you like to see?
What would be the best day of the week to show it on?



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Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Bgrade on March 03, 2004, 07:38:32 PM
Bring back the muppets for sure.  As long as you keep it about the same. A stupid Muppets show would really crush me.

I would like to see Alice Cooper make a return trip.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Julie on March 03, 2004, 08:15:49 PM
Oh boy....what I wouldn't give for The Muppet Show to be back on!  I find myself here in Japan watching Sesame Street at times, hoping to catch a glimpse of an appearance by a Muppet.  Sad I know, but it's what I grew up on, and have always loved them.  Putting it on a Monday night would definitely make my week!!!
GO ANIMAL....grrrr!!!
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Vermin Boy on March 03, 2004, 09:42:55 PM
One of my favorite videos when I was little was "Gonzo Presents Muppet Weird Stuff." Normally, I prefer seeing complete episodes, but if you ever come across this tape, because it's really a great compilation; as the title implies, it's a collection of the strangest bits from the show, with host segments featuring Gonzo and Camilla, with occasional appearances by Kermit. My favorite bit has to be Vincent Price singing "You've Got a Friend."

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Lee on March 04, 2004, 01:43:17 AM
Would I watch if they brought it back? HELL YES!! Animal is the man! :)

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Tilebreaker on March 04, 2004, 02:08:23 AM
It's returned several times already, it's first return flopped pretty badly.  The  second return lasted maybe a season. What's bad is it followed the traditional formula of the first muppet show, wacky show, guest etc... and the second return didn't, and it still didn't last.  The one Guest I remember is Prince.

On the bright side Disney now owns the muppets and they'll squeeze the life out of anything for the cash.  So maybe they'll be one soon.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: JohnL on March 04, 2004, 02:47:24 AM
I wouldn't watch it. I never watched the original show. I haven't watched any of the muppet movies. I never saw the appeal of the muppets.



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Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: FearlessFreep on March 04, 2004, 07:51:10 AM
I would think that the problem with the muppet  show coming back is that I think celebrities are much less distinctinve and interesting and fun then they were back during it's original run.  It's much harder to build a show around a personality and style when there's not much there to begin with

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on March 04, 2004, 09:22:28 AM
I would probably watch it if it came back on.  How could I not, considering that I had grown up on it.  I do have a feeling that it wouldn't be as good though.  Especially considering the fact that Disney does now own the rights to the muppets.

Title: The problem is...
Post by: Nathan Shumate on March 04, 2004, 09:42:04 AM
...that Jim Henson is a dozen years dead, and things don't work as well without him.  He and Frank Oz playing off each other (with Oz either as Fozzie or Miss Piggie) was really the magic of the show. The current producers (including Brian Henson) realize this, and have relegated Kermit to an advisory capacity (hey, not unlike Remington Steele) in more recent outings like Muppets From Space (which focused on Gonzo and Rizzo) or th Muppet Show revival of the last decade, Muppets Tonight (which gave us Clifford -- who? -- as the official host).

Rather than see a half-hearted attempt at reviving what honestly can't be revived, I think I'll just buy the collector's DVDs.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: raj on March 04, 2004, 12:37:04 PM
I would like to see it come back-- heck, what with all the media trying to clean up their images I'm surprised someone doesn't bring it back.

Quality is an issue though.  Don't bring it back if it sucks.  Keep it zany, with stars making fun of themselves.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Flangepart on March 04, 2004, 01:44:44 PM
Gotta agree with Nathan
 and The Freep.
The Celebs today are so white bread. Vinnie Price...he was perfect for the muppets! Distinctive style, great voice, and a cool sence of humor, including about himself. Thats key. You have to lose yourself in the Muppet world, to make the interactions work well. Look at Joel, Mike and the bots.
Yeah...with out Jim, the spirit of the show dwindled....and the spirit of a show is a hard thing to fathom or calculate.
But, ya do know when its gone. Espchualy in a comic show like this.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Eirik on March 04, 2004, 02:05:54 PM
I mentioned this to my wife and learned something about her.  When she was a kid, she was frightened of muppets and would cry uncontrollably whenever they came on (Sesame Street included).  She says she wouldn't want to watch a new Muppet Show.  I am married to a coward.

My only reservation would be the voices that Jim Henson did.  If they didn't get someone good, it wouldn't be the same.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: raj on March 04, 2004, 02:24:36 PM
Frightened of muppets?  I shouldn't be laughing, we all have our phobias, but muppets?  It's not like they're clowns . . .
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on March 04, 2004, 02:51:52 PM
Eventhough I loved the muppets as a kid, I can actually see how a child could be frightened of them.  They are strange colors and sometimes quite hairy.  Imagine having a nightmare about them as a child.  Or even seeing Meet The Feebles as a child and getting the two confused.





Now as for clowns...........

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: AndyC on March 04, 2004, 06:28:34 PM
I can't imagine a kid being scared of any and all muppets, but there were a few that had a pretty monstrous appearance. Sweetums was pretty nasty looking, although he was generally played as a big, furry sweetheart.

The sad thing is that the muppet show would never come back exactly as it was, because somebody would feel the need to update it and make it hip. I'm sure the vaudeville theatre setting is so far from anyone's experience that it would never be kept. Likewise, a lot of the best characters were products of another time - Fozzie's old-fashioned standup, Dr. Teeth and his very 70s band (had a poster of them for years), etc. And, as Freep said, today's celebrities are a bland bunch, and wouldn't offer much variety in guests. I also wonder how many would want to sing and dance with muppets. Then again, they probably grew up on Muppets like the rest of us.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Susan on March 04, 2004, 07:46:39 PM
it's not the same watching the muppets without jim henson
They did try to revive the muppets for awhile just a few years back..it wasn't the same



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Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Neon Noodle on March 05, 2004, 05:47:46 AM
it's amazing what will scare the kids. My daughter was watching Harry Potter 2 yesterday and started whimpering when Ron started to vomit slugs.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Yaddo42 on March 06, 2004, 11:23:13 AM
Like AndyC has said the premise of the original (a run down vaudeville variety show that guests were usually "acting" reluctant or uneager to be apart of) is so far removed frm what the audience for a new version would be familiar with.

Besides true variety shows are pretty much dead now. There aren't the type of well known performers capable of doing sketches and broad musical comedy numbers (usually of other people's songs). I'd love to see someone like Christopher Walken (who in addition to being creepy is a very talented theatre song and dance man, just look at Fatboy Slim's "Weapon of Choice" video or some of his better SNL appearances) or even Crispin Glover do the show. Jessica Simpson seems to be the kind of minorly talented "all around entertainer" who might work on the show, I figured that's why they put her in the Pizza Hut ad, but most of her fame now comes from being a naive, pampered, and dumb fading pop star on a "reality show." When she was on SNL, the only time she really seemed to come alive was during that "Lashey Family Variety Show" musical number during the monologue.

I'd love to see some of the olds Muppet Show eps again - Alice Cooper, Bob Hope, John Cleese, Spike Milligan, Peter Sellers, Shirley Bassey, Raquel Welch.

Nowadays, we'd probably get: Clay Aiken, Britney Spears, David Spade, Kathy Griffin, Michael Ian Black, and either Lindsey Lohan or Hillary Duff.
Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on March 06, 2004, 12:00:10 PM
Yaddo,

The scary thing is that I believe that Michael Ian Black would actually fit in.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: wickednick on March 06, 2004, 01:57:27 PM
The Muppets kick ass. I bought some of the dvd of there shows and I still reguarly watch them.I would love if they brought the Muppet show back but Im kinda worried because Disney recently just bought the rights to the Muppets.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: The Burgomaster on March 07, 2004, 08:49:18 AM
I don't think I would watch it.  After about 1 season of the original show, I lost interest.  Plus, the Muppets have not been the same since Jim Henson died.  I'd rather watch reruns of Sesame Street.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Lee on March 07, 2004, 09:16:13 PM
Michael Ian Black is such an idiot! I can't stand that guy.

Title: Re: If The Muppet Show Returned...
Post by: Yaddo42 on March 09, 2004, 07:30:31 AM
To each their own, Skaboi. I've just never been a fan of MIB, his comedy troupe The State, or any of their projects or series.

A lot people seemed to find him amusing on VH-1's "I Love the (your decade here)" shows, but I quickly got so tired his attempts at stone-faced irony that I could almost predict exactly what he was going to say during the first time I watched any of them.

Now LEWIS Black on a new Muppets show, I'd go for that. I can see him being stuck having to deal with Beaker, Animal, or the Swedish Chef, and exploding over not being able to understand any of them. Or maybe bonding with the larger monsters.

I'd like to see Rob Zombie too, who's about as close to Alice Cooper as we have these days. Plus I've seen him in enough interviews to see that he has a sense of humor about himself.