Heard yesterday that they're remaking "Bad News Bears." The Hollywood remake machine is out of control. Maybe "Best Remake" should be an Oscar category.
Yea, Hollywood should not be in the movie business anymore. They just have to much trouble doing anything original. They don't have the true spirit of true dreammakers.
The ones with the new ideas don't have the money and the ones with money don't have any ideas. Oh well, that is the problem in all facets of human life. We are force fed the mediocre by the mediocre. They should just get out of the way.
Just because you put something on film dosn't make it a "movie".
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the Bible said it best.."The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us." -Ecclesiastes 1: 8-9
I sound smart!
At one level Gecko the scripture is correct and I love that verse, but no human is an exact duplicate of a nother human. Each is different and new.
Actually all things are old and new all at the same time. : )
Hey I'd dig a new version of The Bad News Bears!
I'm anxious to see who's gonna star in it.
I love the original and probably would definitely go see the re-make.
Looks like Billy Bob Thorton is going to be playing the character that Walter Matthau made famous so many years ago. It also seems that it is going to be written by the same guys who wrote Bad Santa, so you can only imagine how crude and fun this remake will be.
As for other remakes, it's getting to the point of nausea. I read today that Michael Bay is going ahead with his remake of The Amityville Horror. And you can't forget the remakes of Police Acadamy and Back To School that are down the pipeline.
Know what? It just means I'll be saving a lot of money by NOT going to the movies as much. Sad but true.
What's next, a remake of GOIN' COCOANUTS (that long-forgotten movie from the 70s starring Donnie and Marie Osmond)? Or maybe a remake of Linda Blair's ROLLER BOOGIE?
Next up for remakes: Gone with the Wind, Star Wars, The Birds, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., A Street Car Named Desire, Rocky, Rear Window, another Pysco remake, Superman (lists every movie that 's ever been made)
Someone is also working on The Poseiden Adventure. Who are they going to get to play Shelly Winters (she actually did her own underwater swimming)?
They're also re-making "The Manchurian Candidate".
Seriously...
Actually, Bad News Bears is kinda one of those film archetypes that they've already done a million remakes of, just with different sports, a la Mighty Ducks. You just don't notice it as much cause they change the title.
But the remakes really are begining to swamp the cinema in ridiculous fashion.
How about remakes of Van Helsing and Hellboy. Or Star Wars Episode #3?
Here's a concept if hollywood MUST remake a film:
QUIT REMAKING CLASSICS. When you remake a good film you can only go down.
Try remaking films that totally suck, from there you can only go up and perhaps make a descent little film
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Of course, the point is not to make a good film, but to cash in (or try to) on the 'feel good' of the first success.
Today I saw a blurb about someone wanting to make a big screen version of The Partridge Family . This would be okay if they used the original cast on a reunion tour, the first scene would have to be bailing Bonaduce out of jail for beating the hell out of someone.
Susan wrote:
> Try remaking films that totally suck, from there you can only
> go up and perhaps make a descent little film
YES!
Lets see....The Giant Claw....The Creeping Terror....The Black Scorpion.....Grizzly.....Okey, they don't totaly suck....REPTILICUS!....but, they could use a makeover!.....King Kong Vs. Godzilla?.....
They seem to be less "remakes" these days than "cashing in on the name recognition of titles of better films". Other than the Mini Cooper the remake of "The Italian Job" was just the usual misfits get revenge for slain mentor on former team member who betrays them. In the original the slain man was just so damn proud of his caper idea he wanted it to live on even if he didn't. Caine's (and Noel Coward's) motivations were greed and one upmanship of the Mafia (with a little British pride thrown in, in Coward's case).
My personal theory on remakes is that you should remake flawed gems, good ideas that went bad in production, or films that don't have such a large devoted following that you are sure to alienate the core audience. If Hollywood wants to make a film about brainwashed soldiers from the Gulf War, fine, just don't call it "The Manchurian Candidate". What does the the Gulf War have to do with Cold War paranoia and the Chinese? Are the Chinese and the Iraqis working together in the remake?
Since it seems no one can make a sports movie about a team of ragtag underdogs (especially if they are kids) where the team loses at the end anymore, wanna bet they change the ending of the "Bad New Bears" remake?
I love the original and probably would definitely go see the re-make.
It's *your* fault!
You just don't notice it as much cause they change the title.
Nope, it's still pretty obvious.
The only time I like remakes is if the follow the book from which a film was based MORE closely. Example: the animated Lord of the Rings made in the late 70's was pretty sucky and left the last half completely off...the Peter Jackson Lord Of The Rings was bang on perfection even thou a few of the actors I had no interest in seeing. The two movies really don't even compare but the animated version was first. A good enough reason to remake is if they can make the movie more intense for modern viewers like Cape Fear. Deniro was over the top and made a memorable villian. But almost all remakes suck or are bad choices in picking a classic that doesn't need a new approuch. Example: The shot for shot remake of Psycho was an utter joke and an example of a horrible waste of film remake. If Hollywood needs to remake something the Logun's Run remake I've heard about is not a bad idea if it is trying to stick to the original book. A remake there wouldn't hurt, the original mid 70's movie is pretty sucky and laughable in parts.
the 1970s LOTR was meant to be a two parter, but since the first part bombed, the second half was never made. Smart move by Peter Jackson to do the whole thing at once.
Maybe someone should do a remake of Deathstalker or Barbarian Queen. . .
I thought TROY was a remake of DEATHSTALKER....or at least Brad Pitt sure looks like him.
Speaking of Bible passages and lack of originality, did you hear about that "Saved!" movie that's coming out from MGM? "Hey, let's follow up on Mel Gibson! They'll really want to see this film!" NOT! I sure hope "Saved!" ends up reviewed here someday, because I'm already imagining some of the material we'll be seeing in the "lessons" section:
- Private Christian schools are dominated by huge cardboard cut-outs of Jesus.
- Promoting premarital sex in schools is a brave and revolutionary new idea.
- Christians believe the best way to cure homosexuals is to have sex with them.
What's really funny about this lamer teen comedy is that it's probably going to go straight to DVD; even the producers seem to have a vague notion that it's not going to put very many butts in theater seats.
Hollywood never learns. "Well, we lost 20 million dollars on that last one, but we sure got rave reviews for our daring from all the big-name critics. Let's try some more religious films; the controversy alone will get us some turnout!"
Ha! I just wonder how much longer it'll be until Hollywood finally runs out of money. Even their attempts to be offensive are getting boring.
It's funny that The Ghoul mentioned "Cape Fear" and remakes. I agree that remakes that adhere closer to an original source book can be good; but both versions of "Cape Fear" are rare examples of "the movie being better than the book" syndrome. Past the early setup, both expand on events in "The Executioners" by John D. MacDonald and are more interesting for it. In both Max Cady is a character of some kind rather than just a drunken brute who says little and seems to think even less.
OTOH, I would like to see a more straight forward adaptation of Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" done at some point. I liked the fascism/patriotism/war satire material Verhoven put in his version, but other than character names and a few political themes (that he made fun of) the movie had so little to do with the book it could have been called something else.
I've reached the point with remakes that whenever I see one announced on TV or read about one (especially the one that get mentioned on SciFi's website) I tend to wince and yell "WHY?" even though I know already......$$$.
Yaddo42 wrote:
> OTOH, I would like to see a more straight forward adaptation of
> Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" done at some point.
It has been done. It's an all CGI animated series called Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles and it's much closer in tone and style to Heinlein's original novel.
Here's a new one I just heard about: Steve Martin as Inspector Cluseau...
Come on. I think some people in this thread made good arguments for some remakes, but Cluseau should have died with Peter Sellers. In a million years, Steve Martin will not be as funny in this particular role.
Eirik,
Atleast it's not a remake. It's actually going to be intitled "Son Of The Pink Panther". Just a continuation of a great series of films.
And now they're going to bring The Dukes of Hazard to the big screen . . . with Jessica Simpson as Daisy Duke.
Here are some more: Altered States, Alfie, and the Amityville Horror,
"Yeah, HollyWood does stink. But hey, Peter Jackson is working on a re-make of King Kong, which is cool!"
"Yeah, HollyWood does stink. But hey, Peter Jackson is working on a re-make of King Kong, which is cool!"
Yes and no. I'm confident he will do a good job... but it doesn't need to be done. Close to 70 years later, the original Kong is freaking awesome - very atmospheric and scarey. So why doesn't Jackson direct his creative energies toward redoing something that hasn't been done right yet (as he did with LOTR), or better yet, why doesn't he wow us with something completely original??
Check this link out. This is one is a true classic and a remake is just plain sacreligious.
I agree with the source, What the hell would Don Siegel think?
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/040603f.php (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/040603f.php)
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A remake of Dirty Harry? There goes more of my childhood out the window. My early years were already stomped on with the remake of Planet of the Apes and now they're going to do this to Dirty Harry? They should just know when to leave well enough alone.
First, a remake of WALKING TALL. Now, a remake of DIRTY HARRY? What's next, a remake of ROCKY starring The Rock?
"What's next, a remake of ROCKY starring The Rock?"
Yeah - this time Rockey beats Creed in the first fight.
Burgo baby, you're a genius. Give me a call, we'll do lunch
--Hollywood.
what about the Rock doing the true story of Hulk Hogan?
Greetings Cinsomniacs!
Why not remake movies that are flawed!
Here are some mr. Lobo would like to direct...
The Brain That Wouldn't Die!
Mega Force
Plan Nine From Outer Space
Dick Tracy(was never done right IMHO)
Robot Monster
Johnny Neumonic
Angry Red Planet
The Wasp Woman
Ghost Story
The Terror
Supergirl
Hercules In New York
Buckaroo Banzai
Bride Of The Monster
Phantom Of The Paradise
Gamera Super Monster
Freejack
Captain Kronos Vampire Hunter
Rat Fink A Boo Boo
King Kong Vs. Godzilla
Superargo
Captain Kidd
1984
Lady Frankenstein
(I could go on...)
Your horror host,
Mister Lobo
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I agree with all but one on your list...
Leave Buckaroo Banzai alone!
Humbly Submitted,
Kory
Great.....I like The Rock and Ben Bratt but no one can do this justice. If they have to remake a Dirty Harry flick, let it be "Sudden Impact." That one had a great idea that did not translate well, mostly b/c Sandra Locke sucked and the two leads don't really interact until the last scene!
Ice Pirates! WOO!