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Title: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Gecko Brothers on July 07, 2004, 04:34:10 PM
Is it just me or did all the promising horror films of the  year already came out and the rest will suck.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Dunners on July 07, 2004, 06:14:38 PM
lets see....

Resident evil Apocolyspe...Crap
Aliens vs Predator...Crap
The ring 2...dunno yet
The village...dunno yet
House of wax remake...Crap

anything else? or is that it for the horror movies?

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Prophet Tenebrae on July 07, 2004, 06:30:13 PM
Let's not forget that they had pretty much written off for many years until Scream - then it became pretty popular to do it and now inevitably, it's run out of good ideas. So it'll probably go into hibernation again and then repeat ad nauseum.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that Ring 2 will be crap.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Gecko Brothers on July 07, 2004, 09:09:48 PM
So the only promising one here is The Village which should be good I guess. M Night doesn't really fail at creating the atmosphere.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Dunners on July 07, 2004, 09:48:54 PM
Nights good, his films arent perfect but hes always got good atmosphere and interesting characters and situations..and some good dialogue. give him time, he improves little by little every film.

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: onionhead on July 07, 2004, 11:22:25 PM
Author Robert Weinberg in Horror of the 20th Century:  An Illustrated History claims that the interest in horror fiction in whatever medium--writing, celluloid, radio--has been cyclical since the last century.  It is currently on a wane, he claims.  Fear not, however:
                   "Horror will continue to fascinate readers as long as fiction exists.  Of all genres--westerns, mysteries, science fiction, and fantasy--horror has been around the longest.  It refuses to wither away, because horror is an emotion, a feeling, a state of being.  Other genres are centered on certain times, certain places, certain attitudes.  Horror isn't rooted in a time or place or  concept.  As long as people shiver in fear when the wind howls, lightening flashes, or a knife glistens in the moonlight, horror remains alive.  At times,  the monstrous figure stumbles, falls to its knees, drops flat on the ground.  But, always, it picks itself up, wipes off the dust, and stands erect.  Manfred, Duke of Otranto, never surrenders; neither does Count Dracula; nor Dorian Gray, Great Cthulhu, Jack the Ripper, the Wolfman, and a hundred other monsters from the past 235 years.  Despite the odds, they'll continue to haunt our dreams.  Horror is here to stay."

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Yaddo42 on July 08, 2004, 06:43:03 AM
LIke any genre it goes in cycles of popularity and quality, as already stated. I figure it will slink back to the cave to nurse its wounds for a while (usually when a lot of parodies have come out, a genre is oversaturated or played out for the time being).

Lately, the real creativity in horror has been overseas, especially in Asia, for the past few years. I'm curious about the upcoming film "The Grudge", but haven't seen the Japanese film series it is spawned from. I liked "Ringu", loved the atmosphere of "The Eye" (but was a little disappointed overall), and there are moments in "Audition" that still creep me out to think about.

I guess we Americans have to contend with foreign horror films crossing the ponds, getting remade in lesser US versions, or seeing folks like Guillermo del Toro make their names at home then come to the US until homegrown horror can recharge its batteries. Besides maybe it needs a rest unitl this current cycle Hollywood remaking everything (mostly badly) dies down for a while.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: BeyondTheGrave on July 08, 2004, 12:56:57 PM
Yaddo42 i have the grudge the japanese version and its pretty good. the upcoming grudge wtih sarah michelle geller is directed by the same guy who did the japanese version. ive seen the trailer and wrote a topic about but none responed if wanna take a look its under the topic The Grudge. it also has the link to the american trailer of the grudge.


"I know I know ive been exposed permeant psychoses..
at least the colors are nice"- Aeon Flux
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 08, 2004, 04:18:08 PM
Every year the promising horror end up being crap.  So I stick to watching the old ones whenever I have a craving for good horror.

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: AndyC on July 08, 2004, 10:34:45 PM
I can't say much of what has come out lately can even be called horror. Just varying proportions of teen drama, teen comedy and action, tossed together with a few gross-out special effects and stories that don't go anywhere. That or inferior ripoffs of better movies. Not much scary or even entertaining about it.

The last horror movie I really enjoyed was Ringu.

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: mr. henry on July 09, 2004, 02:49:09 PM
aren't there like three "RINGU"s in japan? granted the american RING sucked compared to the japanese version, it was still better than the american average offerings. so if the next american RINGU is a remake of one of the other japanese flicks, it might be OK.

hopefully.

Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: JohnL on July 09, 2004, 09:12:04 PM
>Author Robert Weinberg in Horror of the 20th Century: An Illustrated History
>claims that the interest in horror fiction in whatever medium--writing, celluloid,
>radio--has been cyclical since the last century. It is currently on a wane, he
>claims.

Or maybe people just get burned out on the low-budget ripoffs that follow any successful horror movie?
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: reagan on July 09, 2004, 11:02:31 PM
from austalia- so tell me about the Village. when i eventually saw 'Sights' it scared the crap out of me.like the alien coming out of the cornfield while Mel was looking for something, & @ a kids bithday where the alien walks across the screen - spooked the hell out of me.
Liked sixth sense but hated unbreakable
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: twsmith on July 10, 2004, 06:17:35 AM
Mainstream horror has been going to Hell since Scream arrived.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Harry on July 10, 2004, 02:13:17 PM
I thought that both the TCM remake and the Dawn of the Dead remake were damn good.  Also you've got House of 1000 Corpses that was good, and we have House of 1000 Corpses 2:The Devil's Rejects to look forward to.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: dean on July 11, 2004, 09:11:43 AM
"TCM remake and the Dawn of the Dead remake"

I thought this was a post about horror, not comedy!

Dawn of the Dead the remake was a great movie, and had its slightly scary moments, but it was far more funny than scary.

TCM was just amusing, watching the pointless: 'let's turn on the sprinklers for no other purpose than to get her shirt wet scene'

At least you guys and gals can put the bad horror behind you: we still have house of the dead to worry about!

Btw, I think that AVP will turn out to be more action than horror.
Title: Re: The Horror genre is starting to fall
Post by: Gecko Brothers on July 12, 2004, 01:17:14 PM
That's how Paul Anderson works. He tries to make something scary but it will fall flat to nothing but mindless action.