Wow....... I expected a movie with snippets of sex. I got a sex orgy fest with snippets of Malcolm McDowell being completely nuts. I have never seen anything like this before in my entire life. Ever.
I'm assuming you saw the unrated version?
Caligula is one of the only genre bending films I know of to actually delve into full porn. The only other film I know about that has actually done this is The Brown Bunny.
Is this true Skaboi? Does there exist an unrated Version?
I like this movie but when I saw it first, I expected half-porn-sex-orgies and was a little bit disappointed.
Yeah, an unrated version does actually exist.
Yoiu can easily find it on ebay and such.
Just a little tidbit of trivia on this film, it was made by Penthouse if I'm not mistaken
You can rent the unrated Caligula with full porn penetration shots on Netflix, if that's your bag.
Other porno genre benders are Joe D'amato's "Emanuelle in America" (also available on Netflix and from Blue Underground) and "Erotic Nights of the Living Dead."
And La Bete just got released, so now you can get some (simulated) bestiality.
Enjoy!
Skaboi wrote:
> Just a little tidbit of trivia on this film, it was made by
> Penthouse if I'm not mistaken
I'd forgotten about that. Geez, I remember going over to a friend's house - must be 20 years ago - to look through his parents' old Forum and Variations books. They were full of ads for this movie. Definitely a product of 70s hedonism. I've never actually seen it, but it's interesting to hear that it might actually live up to the magazine's claims.
I'm kind of sorry I missed the days of naughty, controversial movies that people in the mainstream condemned, then snuck out to see. Some of those 30-year-old pictures still have a reputation today. And what did our generation get? Showgirls?
If you thought the regular version was bad, the unrated version will drop you to the floor.
Oh yesah, this was unrated and graphic. Definitely lots of gay and lesbian scenes of fullout sucking and f**king. Lesbian penetration, male blowjobs, straight penetration, dildo swings, depicted anal fisting, and a climatic blowjob cum shot. All of this making up probably the most expensive porn ever made.
What I heard was that the X-Rated scenes were filmed and added later, without the knowledge or approval of any of the mainstream actors. Don't know if it's true or not...
I have the unrated version on DVD. It's a terrible movie, but some of the scenes are over-the-top. I saw the edited (R-rated) version at the drive-in when I was in high school. It was missing all of the "shocking" scenes and was really boring.
I heard the movie was made as a normal film, then there were some kind of problems distributing it or something, then it got bought by Guccioni, and he put in scenes from old porn he already owned the rights to. Haven't seen it, but I hear the trasitions are very, very non-seamless. Seamful? Like a guy looks through a hole in a wall in the regular movie, where he's spying on imperial court intruige or something, and it just cuts to a big orgy, like that's what he's looking at.
CALIGULA is one to see since it is unique because of the additions that were made to a regular film. It has eluded my viewing a couple times in the past. EMANUELLE IN AMERICA is suppose to be somethings else also, but not quite the reputation of CALIGULA. It seems that the unedited version of CALIGULA is actually the edited version. Might see both films sometime in the next few months.
When 17 years old I went to see the movie THE STORY OF "O" that was playing in a regular theater and I've found a DVD copy of it and will let you know how it holds up 23 years after.
I did see the original EMANUELLE a couple years ago. Good film in my opinion.
There is also a film from the same producers of CALIGULA and it's about the Third Reich and the perversion of their elite circles. I don't remember the exact title of this film.
I hear that CALIGULA isn't a very good film, but EMANUELLE was a quality film with adult storyline and so is THE STORY OF "O" from what I can remember.
When at basic training during orientation at Ft. Leonardwood, Missouri they gave our company some free time on base and we all went to the base theater to see an X-rated movie called 1001 ARABIAN NIGHTS (or something like that). Terrible acting, but nobody cared. : )
I thought "The Story Of O" was scat porn. What was I thinking of?
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>There is also a film from the same producers of CALIGULA and it's about the
>Third Reich and the perversion of their elite circles. I don't remember the exact
>title of this film.
Salo: 120 Days of Sodom?
>I thought "The Story Of O" was scat porn. What was I thinking of?
Nope, it's about a woman who becomes a sex slave. Kind of like what Exit to Eden would have been if the director/studio had had the guts to make it a serious film rather than trying to cram Rosie O'Donnell in it.
Thanks JohnL for correcting that about THE STORY OF "O" and the info for the film Salo: 120 Days of Sodom. Not sure if it's the same film, but I'll look into it when I get the chance.
Scott- I grew up in Lebanon, MO. My uncle ran one of the supermarkets in Waynesville and St. Robert. Did you see the film at the "adult theater?"
My nephew is the PD at a radio station in St. Robert. There is a huge metal building with the words "adult theater" painted on the side. One of his co-workers remembered the other older station in town used to do remote and commercials for the place. AAHHH the 70's and 80's.
I remember hearing an interview with Malcom McDowell laugh about an older actor having a panic attack during the filming because he thought it was "a porn film."
Another film like this is Andy Milligan's SEEDS OF SIN. The producers added orgy scenes (with cool surf music, that I found is on a production record at the radio station I work at) to the Edward Albee-meets-Tennessee Williams story. The people having sex aren't even characters in the movie!
The theater was on Fort Leonard Wood Army base. It was the army bases own movie theater in the summer of 1982. The only other parts of Missouri besides the Army base that I saw were St. Louis airport and the highway going to the base. For some reason I also remember a giant fireworks store just outside the base.
I have lived in South Jersey ever since that time, but it sounds like cool 70's memories for you Ozzymandias. : ) I don't even think I was old enough to see those films back then.
>Thanks JohnL for correcting that about THE STORY OF "O" and the info for the
>film Salo: 120 Days of Sodom. Not sure if it's the same film, but I'll look into it
>when I get the chance.
Salo is about a bunch of Fascists in Italy at the end of World War II (I think) who take a large number of teenagers of both sexes to an isolated location to indulge their darkest desires. From what I've read, the film generated a lot of controversy because it shows some pretty disturbing stuff. It's been banned in some countries and apparently the director was murdered over it. It's been released on tape and DVD, but the last time I checked, it was out of print and copies were selling for fairly ridiculous amounts.
>There is also a film from the same producers of CALIGULA and it's about the
>Third Reich and the perversion of their elite circles. I don't remember the exact
>title of this film.
That sounds more like Salon Kitty to me; Tinto Brass, who directed Caligula, directed this one. Same production designer, too (who incidentally designed Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove).
I thought Tinto's direction of Caligula was pretty good. Producer Guccione did indeed add the hardcore stuff after the fact, and re-edited the picture against Tinto's wishes. Tinto Brass is not a great filmmaker, but his visuals are amazing, and both Caligula and Salon Kitty have those in spades (as well as the lovely Teresa Ann Savoy).
Can't believe you went through this, Scott. Heard this is one of the worst films ever made. I've got an anthology book on erotic movies and the information it shows on this one is priceless. Aparently, all rumours other people mentioned on this topic are true. The movie was shot by Brass, but producer Guccione wanted it to be more a porn than a serious movie, and recut the whole thing, adding lots of porn he and other shot. The book also mentions the reactions of some of the people involved:
Gore Vidal (writer, whose original script had been mercilessly butchered): I'm not worried about this. The film is so bad it won't ever be released".
Peter O'Toole: How do I feel about it? Look, I'm on my fifties and about to release my first porn movie.
Malcolm McDowell: Now I know how a woman feels when she is raped.
There's extensive info on all the released versions at the IMDB, check it out:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080491/alternateversions