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Title: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Adrenochrome on November 23, 2004, 10:59:18 AM
I've only found a few resources giving tiny hints about George A. Romero's 4th installment of his "Living Dead" series. All of them tell me that it's still "in production". Have any of you seen or heard of a definite release date, or stills from the film thusfar? All I can seem to find out is that it's due for release "sometime in October of 2005"

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on November 23, 2004, 11:57:05 AM
There's not a lot of info floating around about the film at this time.  It seems the basic plot is going to be about a large city.  They have put up walls around the city to keep out the zombies.  Soon, they are all starving and send out a team of people (Dennis Hopper, Tom Savini among others) to find food in the world outside.  It is here that they obviously run into the zombies.

Looks like it's going to be released right around Halloween of next year.  It's currently shooting in Canada as we speak.  Romero hasn't let out too much information about the film as of yet, which I'm quite glad about.  The less I know, the more excited I'll be at it's point of release.

I hope that they will address some of the things that have been on my mind about the dead series since it's inception.  I'd love to see how the zombies have become more of a nusience than anything to the humans.  I'd love to see how doctors deal with the bodies in hospitals before they can become a zombie.  Hopefully this will be the Romero masterpiece that Day Of The Dead should have been.

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Tony Morgan on November 23, 2004, 12:26:45 PM
Yea I heard the same thing about the city and the wall. I cant wait for this movie to come out, I just got interested in this series after i watched the first and remake of Dawn of the Dead. Whatever the movie turns out to be I doubt Romero will disapoint.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Adrenochrome on November 23, 2004, 12:42:53 PM
Yes, I have seen the same info you two have. I was slightly disapointed in the "remake" of Dawn of the dead. I have been a fan of the originals for years. There is just something about Romero's zombie flicks that other people can't capture. I first heard of his idea for the fouth installment while watching the commentary on the Dawn of the Dead (Romero's version) DVD. At the time of that interview he was mentioning that there was trouble coming up with the money. I'm very glad he was able to get things started. I'm a true Romero Zombie addict and i need a fix!!!!

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Mr_Vindictive on November 23, 2004, 01:06:17 PM
I thought, and still think, that the Dawn remake was one of the best horror films to be released in the last decade.  It was dark and lonely, yet Snyder added a fantastic sense of humor to the film that Romero would be proud of.  

Well, atleast it's good if you watch it as it's own movie and not a remake.

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Dunners on November 24, 2004, 02:09:31 AM
Actually Ska Boi I'm expecting Hopper to be the films villain.

The biggest change in the movie is that the dead are 'evolving'. No they're not growing extra arms or learning how to play chess.

They're getting smarter, Romero hinted at them getting about 'bub' smart.

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: JohnL on November 25, 2004, 04:44:40 AM
>Soon, they are all starving and send out a team of people (Dennis Hopper, Tom
>Savini among others) to find food in the world outside.

I wish he hadn't included Hopper in the cast. When I saw the first three films, I didn't recognize a single person in them. This let me concentrate more on the characters rather than on the actors playing the characters.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Hugomarink on November 29, 2004, 04:56:41 PM
I am excited about this movie as well. I'm a huge fan of the first three and am glad a studio has finally put up the money so Romero can get this film made.

On the negative side, has anybody read the comic book "Toe Tags" that George Romero is currently writing for DC Comics? It's a zombie story. The first two issues are out and I have to say it pretty much sucks. I completely lost interest as I struggled through the muddled plot of the second issue. I sure hope this is a case of Romero's writing not adapting well to a comic book format as opposed to a sign that he's lost his storytelling chops. If that were the case then I would be pretty dang worried about "Land of the Dead."
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on November 29, 2004, 05:03:21 PM
All may not be lost. Sometimes these guys just lend out their name and the original idea and it might be another writer that actually sucks. I know Clive Barker came up with a comic but didnt actually write the stories. He just came up with the original idea then handed it off to a bunch of comic book writers who went with it. Still they got to release the comic with CLIVE BARKER all over the cover for marketing. It might be the same kinda deal with Romero's comic. Of course I freely admit I'm talking out my arse as I'm unfamiliar with the comic, but hey, whats the point of posting if you cant give out an uninformed opinion from time to time!
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Adrenochrome on November 29, 2004, 08:20:02 PM
I  just downloaded thr PDF file screenplay for LAnd of the Dead. IT looks like it has a great story!!!!Master Blaster wrote:

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Max Gardner on November 30, 2004, 09:06:26 AM
I was wary of picking up Toe Tags - Romero has always been a better director than a writer - but if you want a zombie comic that's 100% worthwhile, check out "The Walking Dead." The first two collections are available, and they're very cheap ($10 per collection, 6 issues in each).
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: blkrider on November 30, 2004, 01:10:56 PM
I just hope he realizes that we want zombie action, not a bunch of actors yammering back and forth for an hour with no zombies in sight.  I think he'll probably let us down again, although I will be glad to see a Romero zombie flick in the theater.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on November 30, 2004, 01:41:14 PM
I imagine he's got a pretty good budget this time and he's wanted to make this movie for years so I'm sure he's going to run with the opportunity for gut chompin zombie mayhem. Given the plot is going to be cities surrounded by zombies I'm wondering if he'll be able to pull off the clausterphobic, apocolyptic feel of the previous 3 zombie films by presenting so many survivors in one place. Still I have faith in Romero. I wish he would have stuck with the name "Twilight of the Dead" though. It has a nice ring to it and fits with the whole Night, Dawn, Day, thing better.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Hugomarink on November 30, 2004, 01:41:21 PM
Yes, WALKING DEAD is quite good. It would probably make for a pretty kickass zombie flick in its own right.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Hugomarink on November 30, 2004, 01:44:38 PM
Well, Romero is credited as the writer of TOE TAGS. I remember the Clive Barker comics that used his name but were actually done by others. It does not appear to be the case with TOE TAGS. Looks like Romero did indeed script it.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on November 30, 2004, 01:57:23 PM
Yeah, that sucks. Oh well, I guess he's entitled to a turd or two. His short for Two Evil Eyes was an utter crapfest as well. Still, I'm sure we wont give up on him just yet.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Adrenochrome on November 30, 2004, 06:45:26 PM
There's always someone that never gets the first three films.
The kind of flick you're after  is Dawn of the Dead REMAKE.

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: blkrider on November 30, 2004, 09:20:02 PM
I think Romero's best film was the first one...after that he got too dragged down in the heavyhanded and overrated "social commentary" BS.  DAWN was still a good horror film but DAY was a big disappointment [it had the best zombie scenes but the zombies didn't get enough screen time.]  He hasn't made a good movie in a long time so I'm skeptical that LAND OF THE DEAD will be any good--still, at least he'll  either get a chance to make the movie he wants to and get back to the spirit of NIGHT and DAWN or else he'll finally be given enough rope to hang himself.  If he realizes that he's a horror film director and that movies are a poor medium for sending "messages" the film might be pretty good.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on December 01, 2004, 10:48:24 AM
You gotta admit, social commentary aside, the "Choke on em" scene was classic. Joe Pilato improvised that line so he will forever more go down in the Blaster book of badasses.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: blkrider on December 01, 2004, 12:12:34 PM
Not to mention he was probably literally choking on the rotten guts that were being poured all over him! [I don't know if you saw the documentary on the DVD but the refrigerator's motor had gone out and the guts had been sitting there a while and they stank to high heaven!] I'll be the first to say that DAY had some of the best gutmunching scenes and the best special effects...I just wish that scenes like that had taken up more of the movie's running time.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on December 01, 2004, 03:59:04 PM
I havent seen the documentary but I did hear about that. Dude was a friggin trooper. Back in the day I used to fish for catfish sometimes with rotten chicken liver. Just a little container of it stinks all to hell. I couldnt imagine how bad the buckets of chum that poor bastard had to endure smelled.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: blkrider on December 03, 2004, 12:21:16 AM
It was so bad that people had to wear masks when they were working on it before the cameras started rolling...poor Joe Pilato couldn't wear a mask, though!
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Adrenochrome on December 07, 2004, 12:47:37 AM
If you slow that scene down, you can see a zombie on Joe's right side pulling out a blood soaked rubber chicken. I'm not making this up. :)
In the commentary Tom Savini mentions this.

Title: Re:Article in USA Today
Post by: trekgeezer on December 07, 2004, 10:28:53 AM
Their reporter becomes a zombie for the film.

I was a middle-aged zombie (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2004-12-01-zombie_x.htm)

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Master Blaster on December 08, 2004, 10:51:53 AM
I'm going to have to look for that. That's awsome. Anybody that works a rubber chicken gag into a dismemberment is alright in my book.
Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: mr. henry on December 11, 2004, 09:55:36 PM
oops, didn't see this thread...i started another one LAND OF THE DEAD...

here's what i wrote:

my buddy just got back from TORONTO where he has been filming the MAKING OF LAND OF THE DEAD for the DVD release of ROMERO's fourth DEAD flick. DIAMOND DEAD looks to be dead...thank god. marilyn manson is about as scary as the NEW ozzy. glenn danzig or kerry king would be another story altogether!!!!!!!!!!!! land of the dead is definitely in effect in the great white north.

LAND OF THE DEAD at IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418819/

- mr. henry
www.310am.com

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or read TOM GRANT's website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot"
- S N double-o P, D O double-G

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"because they're gay"
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"to do is to be" - Jean-Paul Sartre
"do be do be do" - Frank Sinatra
- kurt vonnegut

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Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: mr. henry on December 12, 2004, 11:38:06 PM
BTW nice dr.THompson reference

- mr. henry
www.310am.com

REOPEN THE COBAIN CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ask me about it at alienstepin@hotmail.com
or read TOM GRANT's website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"When the pigs try to get at ya
Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot"
- S N double-o P, D O double-G

"why do you want to shoot squirrels?"
"because they're gay"
-cabin fever

"there is truth in your fiction and fiction in your truth" - ANIMATRIX

"to be is to do" - Socrates
"to do is to be" - Jean-Paul Sartre
"do be do be do" - Frank Sinatra
- kurt vonnegut

Title: Re: on Land of the Dead
Post by: Prophet Tenebrae on December 15, 2004, 08:04:29 AM
I'm a bit concerned about the whole notion of the zombies becoming intelligent and such-like. I mean, really I thought that bub was pushing it too much. It's just far more preferable to have the living dead as mindless... eh... zombies, rather than some kind of intellectual nemesis for the dull witted inhabitants of horror films.

I also agree that the social commentary aspect probably went too far and so on. It's a bit boring to see the "oh, despite the fact humanity teeters on the edge of utter destuction everyone is still trying to f**k everyone over" I mean, it's been done so many times, it would actually be practically original if people just played nice and wasted a lot of zombies.