does anyone know of any good animation movies? i saw fistof the north star...really cool man so give me a big list...im getting really into them
Well if your into Anime nick might try these
Akria
Ghost in the shell 1and 2
Blue Gender (TV series and Movie)
Hellsing(TV series)
Appleseed(Old and the new one)
Blood: last vampire
Vampire Hunter D (Original and bloodlust)
Well those should break your bank account for now.
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You can’t give it, you can’t even buy it, and you just don’t get it!-Aeon Flux
I really liked "Spirited Away". I don't know if it's your style or not, but I found it extremely inventive, fun, disturbing at times, and creative.
In SF anime, there is Cowboy Bebop (movie and series) and if you can stand the cute Disney-like character design, Metropolis is very good.
If you like poetic visions, anything by Miyazaki (Spirited Away, Porco Rosso, Mononoke Hime, My Neighbour Totoro). With the exception of Mononoke Hime, these are primarily aimed at children, so they are quite cute.
For a modern psycho triller, there is Perfect Blue by Kon Satochi
I don't know the English title, it should be something like 'Grave of the fireflies' by Takahata, it is very touching. It is about two kids who get orphaned by the bombings at the end of WW2 and eventually die of starvation. Bleak but beautiful.
Also 'Memories', really a collage of three shorts, with the hilarious 'Stink Bomb' in the middle. It is about a salaryman who unwittingly transforms himself into a major biohazard.
The above suggestions are great flicks. If your in the mood for some good Japanese Anime that's a little off the beaten path check out Jin-Ra. It's a thriller set in an alternative modern Japan. It's very original and the animation is outstanding.
Oh yeah foregot about that one Master Blaster. Buts its called "Jin-Roh" here in America unless you used the Japanese saying of it I am not sure. I am not trying to be wiseass or anything just wanted to know if it called Jin-Ra in Japan.
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You can’t give it, you can’t even buy it, and you just don’t get it!-Aeon Flux
(Singing) You say Ra-don, and i say Ro-dan, you say Jin-Ra, and i say...
Nice reccomends, guys.
Don't forget "Castle in the sky." And always listen to the subbed tracks...i don't "Do dubbing"...i'm a pureist, ya see...
Oh, and Jin-Ra...but be prepared for a heartbreaking end.
This was my list from an Anime thread that came up some time ago:
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Nausicaa (not out on Region 1 DVD yet)
Castle in the Sky
The Castle of Cagliostro
Kiki's Delivery Service
My Neighbor Totoro
Grave of the Fireflies
Akira
Fist of the North Star
The original Macross movie (usually called "Clash of the Bionoids")
Metropolis
Black Magic M-66
Baoh
Also cool and worth seeing:
Perfect Blue
Appleseed
Battle Angel
Lupin the 3rd - series, "Castle of Cagliostro" was pretty much the movie version
Gunbuster, episode #6
Ninja Scroll
Neon Genesis Evangelion - a big series
Bubblegum Crisis - always liked the orginal series, especially #5
The original thread:
http://www.badmovies.org/bbs/read.php?f=2&i=42895&t=42895
If you want to be a purist, learn Japanese and listen to the original dialog. Both subs and dubs fall short, for different reasons
I would be carefu l about "Blood: The Last Vampire" . The animation is truly great but since it's part 2 of a never finished 3 part series, the story is a bit...incomplete and can be rather disjointing and would hate this to be one of the first experiences someone had with anime.
Catroon Network is playing a good selection these days. I'm getting more into "Full Metal Alchemist" and "Inuyasha" and "Big O" seem cool. "Wolfe Rain" or whatever seems well done but I'm having a hard time getting into the plot (seems to be a bit slow and 'talky'). Of course "Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex" is good, especially if you liked the movie(s), and the one with the witches/craft looks good too, but again I've not gotten into it yet
Good way to get a taste over a week or so if you want .
Fearless Freep wrote:
> I would be carefu l about "Blood: The Last Vampire" . The
> animation is truly great but since it's part 2 of a never
> finished 3 part series, the story is a bit...incomplete and can
> be rather disjointing and would hate this to be one of the
> first experiences someone had with anime.
I did not know this Freep I have the anime and read the one shot Manga but didn't know it was supposed to be three parts.
Of course "Ghost In The Shell: Stand
> Alone Complex" is good, especially if you liked the movie(s),
> and the one with the witches/craft looks good too, but again
> I've not gotten into it yet
Yeah anything involveing ghost inthe shell is pretty good this one fouses more on the action but still has a good story. Witch Hunter Robin is good to Freep check it out.
I like Andrews picks also Bubblegum Crisis is one of my favortites you every check out the new one Andrew Bubblegum Crisis 2040? Evangelion as ALOT as the 26- epsiodes and two movies. Also new DVDs trying to fix the anmation and put more scences in.
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I also like Iria: Zeriam The Animation; one of my favs. And for something in a different direction, I like Ranma 1/2
Freep. Okey, i'll give ya that....but i'm an old man, grasshopper, and i gotta go within my limets. I do see your point though. What animes have the closest match between actual voice work and subbs?
And G in the S :SAC is great. Do these stories take place before or after the movies?
And G in the S :SAC is great. Do these stories take place before or after the movies?
I would guess after because the Major seems pretty weel adjusted to her reality
What animes have the closest match between actual voice work and subbs?
Dunno. I've just noticed a few things
1) Some long monologues in dubs with nowhere near as much text in subs
2) Seem some spanish moves with subs (I now *enough* spanish to realize the subs were only approximations)
3) I think I've seen some english movies dubbed into spanish and then re-subtitled.
Sort of learning the original language, I think anything's going to be a compromise. I will do both subs and dubs and each has strengths and each has weakness and I don't think either is really a 'purist' approach
I agree with you thier Freep. It's crazy to see people talk about "purity",That dubs are the wrong way to watch anime. My answer always to that is do you understand Japanese to say that dubs are wrong? For all someone knows the Japanese version could be saying your a moron for buying this anime. Most of the time I watch both the sub and the dub because like you said they have both strengths and weakness. I do have to say though dubs have come all long way for anime.
Oh and one more thing Ghost in the shell stand alone complex does not take place with the movies timeline. It completely separate from the movies. Hence Stand Alone Complex.
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Golgo 13: the professional , grandizer series & a belgian one called "fearless john"
ad this to andrews list and you have a perfect one...
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Jin Roh! I forgot about that one. Great movie, although the concept that the guys in gas masks and Panzegrenadier helmets with machine guns are actually the good guys, is a bit strange at first.
Good guys....yeah....i don;t know bout dat....
Freep : I must agree. Now that i think about it, we must miss alot of detail, when we don't know what to "Hear" for. A loss of Language subtelty.
There are very few Japanese animation films that I can watch the English dub and enjoy the film. "Spirited Away" and "Princess Mononoke" are two of them. However, "Castle in the Sky" is one that I definitely have to watch in Japanese - the difference in the voice talent is enormous.
On the other hand, dubbing seems to add to the experience for kung fu flicks.
>>>Oh and one more thing Ghost in the shell stand alone complex does not take place with the movies timeline. It completely separate from the movies. Hence Stand Alone Complex.<<<<
The main director in an interview said that this series takes place in a universe pretty much parrallell to the films, since the influence of the puppet master was too great, and they didn't want to lose the character of Major Kusanagi. The Stand Alone Complex refers to something completely different, if you look at the first episode the text after the titles explains this.
Anyway, I pretty much highly reccommend every Anime included on this thread so far, with Ghost in the shell and its related media, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Evangelion, Hellsing Perfect Blue and Cowboy bebop are my favourites.
I also highly reccommend The Castle Of Cagliostro, if you know of the character Lupin, its part of that series. I find it kinda silly [the good kind] but also really well done.
What is very interesting though is that I have seen two different dubbed versions of the film.
That is actually really confusing. I taped it off tv once, and then watched the dvd and they were different!
One called the main character the wolf, the other Lupin. Since its part of the Lupin series, I guess the dvd one, the lupin one is the proper one, though the fact that a different version exists is really quite odd.
I actually prefer the other version that was shown on TV, but I'm wondering, what happened to the version I know and love? I just find it really odd, as I have stated many times already...
I guess the reason for it is that the 'official' one was kind of confusing; calling counterfiet money 'goat bills' instead of just saying counterfiet etc. And calling him the wolf probably made it more approachable for people who weren't familiar with the original.
Also my opinion on dubbing vs subbing is: I usually watch Anime dubbed and Foriegn films Subbed. I find it a crime to watch a movie such as Police story or Crouching Tiger dubbed, because its just distracting me from the film, but dubbing in anime isn't a distraction, and like Freep said, you miss quite a bit when there is a lot of talking. I noticed that especially in Ghost in the shell; there's so much to explain and so much talking that subtitles just can't keep up so they paraphrase.
Phew, that was a lot to write in so little time...
The original question was just about animation per se, and it turned into an all-Japanese/Anime thread.
Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .
Just to play the Western card here, try the French "Fantastic Planet" or the American/Fleischer Brothers' "Hoppity Goes to Town" or "Gulliver's Travels".
Even though Ralph Bakshi gets a lot of slams, I still think his "Heavy Traffic" is a fully-realized bit of animated art.
The older bits of true hand-drawn/hand-painted animation need to be watched and savored. Even the overlooked Disney features like "Dumbo" need to be rewatched -- look at just the closeup on a bar of soap during the bathing sequence. Many of the backgrounds were done by Walt "Pogo" Kelly on that one. The guy could really draw!
And, oh, subtitles are always better, because you can never match the proper inflections on a dub, unless your voice actor is fluent in both languages.
peter johnson/denny crane
(Raises hand and speaks meekly)
I made some short zombie films in lego...
(Slinks off into the background)
I'm trying to see Akira and Ghost in the Shell, But Nooo, the video shop had to move from the f**kin massive video access to down the road and turn into a one storey Blockbuster...
Anyway, my point is that the old one had millions - I'm not kidding - of videos until they moved 2-3 years ago. I'm pretty sure they would have Akira, but I'm having trouble finding it. I know some places that could have it, but they are in diferent suburbs... Anyway, what are these two Anime's like? I know from IMDb that they are good, but I want to hear personal opinions.
By the way, what is mutated Tetsuo like in Akira?
Nobody has yet mentioned the two Heavy Metal movies, or Lightyears, or Starchaser: The Legend of Orin...