Yes, Paul W.S. Anderson is going to write and direct Death Race 3000. Sounded like he was going to put the emphasis on the race and cut down on the running over of pedestrians (best part of the original). This sucks, seeing that Carmageddon is my favorite game.
Check out the article here (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050322j.php).
Oh, I hope that they have lots of CG gore and bullet time shots, and cars that defy the laws of gravity, and heavy metal music, and I hope it will be PG-13 and that it will have a hip, happenin' cast!
This will rock the Krib dawg!
*bangs head against desk repeatedly*
Yeah, that's right, the original version had more emphasis on running down pedestrians. There was a very good reason for this: It was the PREMISE OF THE MOVIE. The point of the movie isn't the race, it's the satire of jaded American culture (and how funny it is to watch Sylvester Stallone run over people for not knowing his name). This is like remaking Duck Soup with the mindset "The original put so much focus on the comedy that the war was irrelevant!"
Coincidentally, I just rewatched the original a couple weeks ago. I was expecting the reality TV similarities, but I had completely forgotten the subplot about the president distracting the public from terrorism by blaming it on the French. Spooky.
I would remark about Cheeky's knee-jerk reaction, except that he's absolutely right. That's exactly what will happen to this movie. I'm going to go cry now.
Wow. I can't believe I missed that news. I knew they were remaking this movie, but I didn't know they gave the director's seat to Anderson. That blows. Anderson and Boll need to disappear.
Really, this is the kind of movie that demands a Tarantino to do it properly.
All you fanboys/girls out there treat Quentin Tarantino like he's some movie demi-god. His movies are exactly what he once directed: pulp and fiction. Not only are they comics, they are cheap and gritty, and are wildly embellished stories.
If you want to watch a gangster film, watch the ones he watched to get his ideas - like Scorcese's or Godard's. If I watched movies all day long working in video store, I bet I could use someone else's ideas to make a movie too. That would be cool.
You missed the point
Tarrintino doesn't write Gangster films, he writes the darkest comedies and satires out there.
He's one of the best because like the great dark comedies, most people believe it's suppose to be serious. Another great example of this type of Dark comedy is Fargo. Half the audience was laughing and the other half thought it was rude to be laughing at such horrible "true events"
Aren't those the qualities you'd want in a Death Race 2000 remake?
I just hope that Anderson is wise enough to have plenty of mucho brutal violence,and the presence of David Carradine(even if it's in a semi-cameo,ala Michael Caine in the horrible "Get Carter" redux),in his vision of the original Roger Corman classic,which would be the only two things that would cause me to drag myself to the theater to see it.
Death Race 2000 is one of my favourite B-Movies. I now have serious issues in Anderson's line of thinking. As was mentioned, the movie isn't about the race, but has much different subplots and absolute silliness. Frankenstien/Carradine rocks, Stallone is good at being a spoilt little cry-baby, the emperor is that guy whose name I can't remember, but I always laugh when I see him, and that reporter is funnily annoying.
And running people over in cars. Especially old people. That was the main point.
I am getting a real Rollerball-type vibe as I think of this. That and the Dean Cain rip off as well [can't remember the name of that one]
I have a feeling its going to turn into a race in which the competitors fight each other instead of running people over. Since he's big into remaking Video games, my guess is he wanted to adapt Twisted Metal [a vehicular combat game] but couldn't get it sorted properly.
Anyway, I think the Paul Anderson pinata has certainly been flogged to death, so I don't really see the point in stressing about it. Since we all seem to know what goes on, we may as well wait until its out on VHS/DVD and then proceed to shoot ourselves after watching it.
Scott H. wrote:
> All you fanboys/girls out there treat Quentin Tarantino like
> he's some movie demi-god. His movies are exactly what he once
> directed: pulp and fiction. Not only are they comics, they are
> cheap and gritty, and are wildly embellished stories.
Precisely what this story demands. Did you even see the original Death Race 2000? It is a comic book movie. It's cheap and silly and waaaaay over the top. It's a brutal satire, full of dark humour. It's also a cheesy Corman exploitation film of the 70s. This is Tarantino territory, plain and simple.
What, exactly, in the suggestion that Tarantino would be right man for this particular movie, would suggest a "fanboy" (and I ain't) worshipping him as a "movie demigod" as you put it?
Before you lecture other people, make sure you do, in fact, know what you're talking about. I'm kind of picky about that.
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What can I say that hasn't already been said? I love this movie and to re-make it with an emphasis on the race....ludicrous. Can you imagine that movie without Stallone running that guy over in the stream for getting his name wrong? Can you imagine it without the old folks home lining up the old people and having the tables turned on them? There was just way too much to this movie that a re-make will completely miss. Damn this world...
Man, this is the most reaction I've gotten from a post lately. I pretty much think he'll ruin everything that the original had.
You guys are gonna laugh me off the board for this, but I like his work. I haven't seen Alien vs. Predator yet (though from what I understand it's the story that sucked, not necessarily the directing), but I think his work on Resident Evil was brilliant. Utterly brilliant. Event Horizon was good as well, another one where the story could have been better, but the directing was good. And Soldier with Kurt Russell was pretty watchable.
And besides, Death Race gave us David Carradine in black leather underpants. Anderson gave us Milla Jovovich in a red miniskirt.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..........(just me trying to laugh you off the board)...
Seriously....It could be argued that Anderson isn't a bad director, and I certainly agree with your Milla Jovovich (wow, say that name 3 times fast) comment. I was one of the ones that didn't think AvP was too bad it, just could've used slightly more violence. BUT...He himself said that he wants more emphasis on the race. The original movie was not about a race really, that was secondary. No good can come out of this, I truly believe this. Dean had likened this to what was done to Rollerball and I completely agree with that asessment.
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I'm with Vermin. How can you do this without the satire? The run overs were indeed the point! Modern gladiatorisim with the nazi like aspects included.
Its going to be another version of "The fast and the furious" without...wait...they might GET Vin Diesal for the Frankenstein part....Ewww...
I have to agree with Mr. Hockstatter, all of Anderson's movies aren't crap, I didn't care about the Resident Evil movies and never saw them. I liked Soldier and Event Horizon was okay.
I borrowed my brother's copy of AVP and I thought it was a pretty good movie. It wasn't as memorable as Alien, Aliens , or Predator, but sequels usually aren't.
I don't trust him with a classic like Death Race though. It will end up just being another action flick with none of the satire of the original.
I think what people don't take into account is that his films are profitable and that's what keeps him working not whether we think they are any good.
Mr Hockstatter,
>>>>though from what I understand it's the story that sucked, not necessarily the directing>>>
He also did the story for AVP.
Look, after everything bad is said about Paul W Anderson, I do have to say that his sense in directing style is pretty good. AVP did have a good look about it and had some pretty good moments.
But the thing that makes him the nemesis of all movie fans is how he treats his source material.
I enjoyed Mortal Kombat and Event Horizon. Resident Evil was ok, but considering his source material for both that and AVP, it would have been hard to get it wrong, yet he did.
The story for Resident Evil wasn't too bad, but he could have just made an original zombie film without touching on the Resident Evil story, that way it could be done properly, and we'd have a perfectly fine Zombie film from him.
AVP was a sorry sorry movie. It had some good moments, and some good ideas, but overall it was a very poor attempt at making a good Alien or Predator movie [though I guess Alien 3 and Ressurection weren't too much better anyway]
As a big fan of the AVP concept I thought that he could have done so much better, even if it still had to be PG-13 [which, I've heard, is one of his excuses as to why it isn't as good as it could be]
So we can count on Anderson trying to put alot of his 'original' ideas into Death Race 3000, and making it a shadow of its former movie, when in fact he could have made an original concept which is similar, and not got people's feelings involved. It's almost as if in order to be allowed to make a film, he has to pitch the idea as an adaptation or remake, otherwise they won't let him do it.
But despite my ill feelings towards Paul Anderson's overall works, I don't want to cast final, ultimate judgement until it is finished. Even Vin Diesel as Frankenstien won't make me shudder, until I see it on screen for myself.
Anderson is nothign but a pile. We're all better off ignoring whatever he makes like smart badmovie fans.
Whereas Deathrace was an exploitation cheapie made to captialize on "Rollerball", and whereas Rollerball was remade to resounding silence, I predict the same fate for this thing --
Old question/old cry: With so many many many original scripts/unfilmed short stories out there, please stop p**sing your money away on dubious remakes!!
You're not going to make any money on this -- You're not! So please ask a geek about what stories might make a good low-budget cheapie flick & go from there --
Jeez!!!
peter johnson/denny crane
I too am tired of remakes.
One thinkg I'm sorta curious about is that "Deathrace 2000" used the race and the killing as sorta a motivation to show things about American culture; particular gameshows, celebrities, etc...
In many ways Corman said "this is where we are going" and in many., many ways, we've already gotten there. If Deathrace 2000 was an exaggeration of where we were then, it's more of a farce of where we are today.
For a remake to work, you would have to look at where we are today, project where we are going, and then make it over-the-top silly. It's the ability to be that clever and insightful that would convern me as to anyone able to pull it off
STARRING:
Jeff Foxworthy as Calamity someone
Eminem as Nero the Hero
Arnold schtwartzenegger as Herman the German
Tom Cruise as Laser Gun Viterlbo
Keanu Reeves as Frankenstein
What's next, a remake of EAT MY DUST?
At least this latest piece of remake junk will be somewhat retitled with "3000." Because 2000 would sound outdated, right? If they ever remake 2001 it'll be retitled 3001 for sure. Deathrace 2000 worked because it was campy and lately no one, especially the director with the pretentious two middle initials, can recreate campy. Who will take the roles held by Stalone and Carradine? Most likely some nameless OC extras. Carradine was perfectly creepy and Paul Bartel was a gifted fellow.
When did this remake fad start? Because I don't remember it until the Star Wars revisions and Planet of the Apes. They have all been abysmal acts of careless recycling. In the last five years there have been hardly any original and memorable big-budget offerings. The Chainsaw remake was beyond bad. The first had that great documentary feel so what do they do but make a slick and polished looking version with Abercrombie models. There is a benefit to hiring talented unknowns instead of pretty no-talents: It's easier to identify with the everyman or everywoman. I can connect with a normal looking guy with the talent to play the role. I think Scream sort of set the opposite as a rule. Everyone wants to build a franchise so they hire based on youth and looks, betting on future films instead of making anything of quality.
I just checked out the IMDB page for 3000 and it says the race takes place in 2020. That makes a lot of sense.
I'm bitter.
Good grief
This news will probably ruin my day. Which studio is putting this out? There's no way a major studio would let Corman direct it so why not let Corman remake it independently and release it through Lions Gate? Or if the executives are adamant about releaseing this as a big budget movie, let Paul Verhoeven direct it. He has Corman's camp/satire and is good with big budget action movies. Why Anderson? What, is he a HUGE fan like he is of Aliens hugging Predator? Obviously not since he doesn't git the whole premise. Okay, I'm done ranting.... KHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Now there's a classic. I loved that movie. Nothing takes me back to the '70s more completely than Ron Howard in a stolen stock car trying to impress some girl. The atmosphere of that thing is great.