I can't recall that this question has ever been asked here on this board so....
Captain Picard?
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Or...
Captain James T. Kirk?
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If you were stuck in a serious survival situation of life and death, which captain would you walk, run, share food, converse, trade quips, fire hand phasers & duck for cover side by side with?
They're both very different.
What adventure would you choose and with which captain & why?
I choose Picard.
Two imagined scenarios exist for each.....one scenario that takes place in space in command of their ships...The other....on the surface of a distant planet
Post Edited (08-31-05 11:21)
Well, since Trek Geezer p**sed me off by agreeing with you in the other thread, I will have to say Wesley Crusher. There! How do you like that pain, mister Trek "I have to agree with Ash" Geezer? There's plenty more where that came from, watch out.
Both captains have their good and bad points. Kirk was more of a hands on captain with intelligence to back it up. Picard was more of the intelligence first type of captain with some field ability. It would all depend on the situation I would be in before I could decide who.
James Tiberius Kirk is by far the better captain and here are 115 reasons why (http://www.shatnerology.com/kirk.html).
But what else would you expect a true follower of the most holy bloated and toupeed one to say. Long live the OTS!!
Just take the example of Generations, Picard is trying to stop Malcolm McDowell and is getting his ass handed to him. When Kirk shows up at the end he waxes poetic upside Malcolm's head.
Post Edited (08-31-05 12:03)
I'd pick Captain Morgan. There's no one more competent at making me incompetent than the Cap'n. Mmmm
Well, frankly, Kirk is such a horndog that the thought for anybody being left alone with him is a frightening proposition. (http://www.smileys.ws/sm/erotic/00000002.gif)
I would have to go with Picard. In addition to being diplomatic and a survivalist, if worse came to worst, you could always use his head as a reflector for S.O.S. signals. (http://www.smileys.ws/sm/grinning/00000001.gif)
Captain Morgan
Cap'n Crunch
Captain and Tennille
Sky Captain
Captain Beefheart
Captain Planet
Captain D
Captain Blood
Captain Corelli
and my favorite
The Crimson Chin - actually he isn't a captain but I just wanted to give a nod to the Fairly Oddparents, Nickelodeon's best kept secret
Kirk.
Picard's always trying to do the P.C. thing, Kirk doesn't mind killing them what need killin'.
KIRRRRRK!
Any guy who can wupp Recardo Motalbon's rich corinthian a$$, can have a beer with me anytime!
"Phaser, Photons...I got the starship."
Caaptaaain Caaaaaaavvemaaaaaaan!!!!!
I go with Captain America and Captain Kangroo. (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/violent/sterb008.gif)
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Most of all I hate dancing then work, exercise, people,stupid people
I haven't seen too much of next generations so my decision maybe unfair but I'm going with-
Kirk.
Because despite the Enterprise lost it's main power, lost most of it's power, and was damaged he somehow pulled out a miracle and was able to beat back Khan's ship.
That scene alone was truely badass.
Let's hear it for Janeway!
Yeah! I'm all over Janeway...I mean...uh...
Sisko is also a damn fine captain and is fearless in battle.
And if I got stuck with Janeway....sure, I'd trust in her. She's a strong captain.
It could be worse, you could be stuck with Admiral Nakamura.
(from TNG)
Anybody for Capt. Buck Rogers? Or better yet, Col. Wilma Dearing (mmm...Erin Gray)?
Of the two listed, I'd go with Kirk in a crisis, since he could always just rip his shirt and stun the enemy with his (lack of) iron-hard abs.
In peacetime, I'd go with Picard, simply because he could hold an intelligent conversation.
But Wilma Dearing is still the best choice.
Sisko is kick ass. He poisoned the atmosphere of a planet to smoke out the bad guys. He was an accomplice to a murder in order to get the Romulans into the Dominion War and I loved it when Dax told him that Worf was intimidated by him.
Janeway!? I'm sorry but she was one of the most poorly written characters in the Trek Universe. One week she would play mommy to 7 or 9 and the next week she was Mommy Dearest. Any psychologist would have diagnosed her as pyschotic.
Admittedly, Sisko is probably my favorite. He was a good mix of the elements which defined Kirk and Picard individually.
As always, Ashthe cat always asking the same stupid things as always.
why dont u get a life?
A life, what is that? Are they on sale at Wal-mart?
BTW, you is spelled y-o-u. Gas may be in short supply, but letters aren't.
but, have "you" undertand what i meant to say???? then???? whats the problem???
laura wrote:
> but, have "you" undertand what i meant to say???? then????
> whats the problem???
I'm pretty sure I "understood".
wow, i didn´t know that i was surrounded by authentic grammar erudites :)
congratulations :)
laura wrote:
> but, have "you" undertand what i meant to say???? then????
> whats the problem???
Here's a concept: how about saying what you mean correctly, the first time, rather than putting it off on us to 'understand' what you mean.
Actually Laura, I doubt anyone would really be picking on you if you had something useful to say. Alas, I tend to agree with your original statement, but it's the way that you just popped in here spouting crap and doing it very poorly too. Look at the most recent posts you've made...they're all troll posts really. What kind of reaction did you figure you were going to get? Or...did you get the reaction that you were looking for?
Sprechen sie Troll?
warum u im im Deutsche tat,
laura wrote:
> warum u im im Deutsche tat,
Just for *poops* and giggles.
Hey, what's with picking on Ash? I think somebody should go back to bed and try getting up on the right side .
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Back to the original reason for this post:
I've been thinking about this non stop. I couldn't sleep last night as I mulled over which captain would be better. I got up at 2 last night and wrote a 200 page essay on the pros and cons of each captain only to come to a tie.
I then called Magrathea and had them fire up Deep Thought. After hours and hours of deliberation, it said the final and conclusive answer is:
Kirk!
I'd have to go with Captain Kirk. I don't care about their specific attributes and abilities, I just care that Kirk would be a hell of a lot of fun to be stranded with.
But then again, he'd get annoying.....
Dammit, back to the drawing board.
Heh...heh...heh
Thank you for the quote.
Skaboi wrote:
> I then called Magrathea and had them fire up Deep Thought.
Magrathea? Deep Thought?
I'd vote for Captain Jack Sparrow.
'cuz then I'd get OFF the deserted island.
=)
Laura -- you can't start slinging around sayings like "get a life" on this board. It's a board dedicated to BAD MOVIES, savvy?
No one here WANTS a f**king life. We want decaying, brain-eating UN-lifes, we want Raoul Julia movies, MST3k, we want pointless debates over Kirk versus Picard, we want to banter over the finer points of the sub-$2 DVD bin in Wal-Mart.
We want the camaraderie of other geeks like us. Just like any other corner of the internet.
This also has the distinction of being THE nicest board I've ever spent any time on. THE nicest board.
So be nice or go 'way, savvy?
odinn7 wrote:
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> Sprechen sie Troll?
>
That is one of the coolest things I've read IN A LONG TIME.
why should i go away? I like bad movies too, thats why i read this phorum, and i have been reading it for three years. But........ in this phorum there´s regualrs too, so, again, and again, and again......... why i cant give my opinion about regulars?
And Picard wouldn't get annoying? I think he'd be more annoying over time because he'd always be trying to reason with something, rather than giving an ass-kicking when an ass-kicking is needed.
Please, give your opinion. "Get a life" isn't an opinion so much as a put-down of someone else. Write about which Captain would be better. Or, if you don't like a particular thread, don't read it. Just don't pop in and start throwing insults around.
Peace.
insults?? let me think........... have u read some insult around? no?? me neither
laura wrote:
> insults?? let me think........... have u read some insult
> around? no?? me neither
"why dont u get a life?" could certainly be taken as an insult...especially when you only popped in this topic just to say that.
laura wrote:
> insults?? let me think........... have u read some insult
> around? no?? me neither
To quote your first post:
"As always, Ashthe cat always asking the same stupid things as always.
why dont u get a life?"
You don't see that as insulting? If not, then I've got nothing more to say to you.
laura wrote:
> insults?? let me think........... have u read some insult
> around? no?? me neither
The only thing you have accomplished doing is attacking a member of this board in several topics, and disrupting the conversations. The only person who has gone off topic is you. All you want to do is incite trouble and then come back and suggest it is your right to do such. Opinions are very much a part of this board and a cooperation between the members; unwarranted attacks on any member of this board is not an opinion and disrupts the community. You are nothing but a troll looking to disrupt this board.
Back on topic: I've actually mulled this over for a few days before responding (which I think might mean that I WIN). As a viewer, I preffer Kirk, but I think my chances of survival are a lot better with Picard, especially if I'm a redshirt. Also, I like Patrick Stewart ever since he was the erotic bakery guy on SNL:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93lsexycakes.phtml
Captain James T. Kirk is my pick. How could it be anyone else. The other shows should have called themselves something unrelated to STAR TREK. The sets and music are not as colorful in the old ones. No comparisons in my opinion. : )
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Post Edited (09-05-05 09:48)
I'll go with Kirk. Nothing like that "Cowboy Diplomacy." (http://www.smileys.ws/sm/grinning/00000001.gif)
Kirk was all about action and adventure and FUN. Yeah, he had his preachy moments, but Kirk was entertaining. Picard was a product of science fiction that began to take itself too seriously. I don't care if it's more realistic that the captain stay aboard the ship, I don't care if it makes more sense that he be a skilled diplomat. It's not fun.
I've always said that the biggest mistake in TNG is the assumption that we want to see Picard avoid danger. Go for 45 minutes telling us that a fight is inevitable, then pull out some hokey peaceful solution at the end and expect the audience to breathe a collective sigh of relief. Kirk would at least have scrapped with the enemy a bit first, then found some common ground.
And as a fan of old B sci-fi, Kirk just fits the classic space hero image. Funny, when you grow up watching Trek, it never occurs to you. I went a few years without it being readily available on TV, and was surprised, on watching it again, that I'd never noticed how much it resembles other classic sci-fi in style. Now I enjoy it on a whole new level.
Captain Janeway..thank you very much.
Uhh, has Zap Brannigan been mentioned yet? I prefer a superior I can outsmart.
Definitely Kirk for me. Kirk would be a great boss, Picard would be the boss from hell. The kind of guy that makes you tense up everytime he walks in the room. He always seemed like a character designed by a committee, like he has to be one part professional wine taster, one part musty college professor specializing in the work of Shakespeare, one part, well, whatever the 19 other people in the focus group think.
Kirk, on the other hand, a guy could go out and have a beer with Kirk. If you slacked off your job he'd kick your butt. Picard would give you some holier-than-thou sermon about what an honor it is to be a member of the crew of the Enterprise, I'd be trying to stifle a yawn, he'd prattle on and on in quasi-poetic prose...
Kirk would never drink no freakin' Earl Gray Tee.
Coffee...black.
Post Edited (09-06-05 12:53)
Kirk would have been a great boss. Remember the little references to staff Christmas parties, Thanksgiving dinner and good stuff like that? Never heard of any such things on Picard's ship.
And just the casual way Kirk could relate to people - joking with his officers, working out in the gym with the enlisted men, flirting with beautiful women. Kirk got tough when the situation demanded it, but he knew how to relax. Picard was always 'on.'
What about the EMH in Captain mode?