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Title: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on February 20, 2011, 10:52:36 PM
I think "Family Guy" is funny and I get that they push the envelope. But how many more damn cancer jokes are they gonna make? Has Seth lost anyone to cancer, if he did he wouldn't think it was so funny. I'm not stupid, and uneducated for thinking this. The show is very smart and funny and like it 90% of the time. But somebody should punch him in the mouth for the cancer jokes.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 21, 2011, 06:23:38 AM
I agree 100%. Cancer is a horrible way to die....a very slow and painful death. My wife died of cancer 2 years ago.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Doggett on February 21, 2011, 06:55:58 AM
I don't think Family Guy has been the same since it was brought back.
It was funny because it was always on the edge, now it's just going over which isn't as funny as anyone could do that.

I'm liking American Dad! a lot more.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 21, 2011, 02:01:53 PM
It is funny because you people who don't think it is are whining about cancer jokes. The more you are against it the more we trolls find it funny. Family Guy is awesome for pushing the envelope, and it shouldn't be ashamed to do a joke about such stuff. You know why? Because it is just a stupid joke, with no meaning whatsoever,a nd people get p**sed off by it. The joke doesn't change the world whether it exists or not. People won't stop being treated for cancer just because a joke was made. The joke is NOTHING, AT ALL, and you people like to complain about it instead of complaining how sportstars can earn more money than actual scientists who are actually trying to cure cancer.


Glad you're finally admitting it. 

I don't understand the whole troll attitude: that it's funny that people would be p**sed off by something. Sometimes good, incisive humor p**ses people off or makes them think.  That's the whole purpose of satire.  You seem to be arguing that if it p**ses someone off, then it's funny by definition.  It reminds me of the fallacy "true art is offensive. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrueArtIsOffensive)"


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: akiratubo on February 21, 2011, 02:55:43 PM
I've pretty much given up on Family Guy, not that I was ever that into it in the first place.  It's not funny anymore and I don't think it's even trying to be.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: bob on February 21, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
I've pretty much given up on Family Guy, not that I was ever that into it in the first place.  It's not funny anymore and I don't think it's even trying to be.

That's why I stopped watching as well. The show pushes the envelope for the sake of pushing it with no rhyme or reason to it.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 10,000 Volt Ghost on February 21, 2011, 03:23:10 PM
I don't think Family Guy has been the same since it was brought back.
It was funny because it was always on the edge, now it's just going over which isn't as funny as anyone could do that.

I'm liking American Dad! a lot more.  :thumbup:

That's how I feel about it too. I blame Cherry Chavprata....(sp) too. It seems like he's been at the helm of the decline.

I'll even watch the Cleveland Show because its more simple and actually kind of funny.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Nightowl on February 21, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
MacFarlane is always joking about terrible things such as cancer, strokes & aids. The way I see it is it's like kicking somebody when they're already down, it's just uncalled for. I like controversy as the next person, but this taking it a step to far. Family Guy should just stick to making pop references.



Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on February 22, 2011, 02:27:53 AM
The first time they did it, I thought "They are just pushing the envelope." It didn't bother me that much at first, but then they kept doing it. Now it seems like they do it every episode. I happend to be watching an episode like that when I was online, and I just couldn't let it go. I had to post a topic. I don't wanna be that guy that thinks people's free speech should be censored, I don't believe in that. I wonder if they do it just to get a rise out of people? You think they would put some kind of message at the end of the credits, like the web adress for the American Cancer Society. When Patrick Swayze died they dedicated an episode to him, where they made fun of "Roadhouse." Which was a classy thing to do. But I think people knew it was in good fun and in that case they didn't make fun of his disease. One problem I have with the cancer jokes is that they do it so much. I'm just curious what Seth and his writters think about this. If I had a better understanding of it, I might have a better opinion of them.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Mofo Rising on February 22, 2011, 03:42:59 AM
I haven't watched Family Guy for years, so I'm not familiar with the jokes they are putting out now. When I was watching it, I thought Family Guy had moments of brilliance, but was too often saddled down with very lazy attempts at humor. I take humor very seriously, as I find laughter one of the uniquely human attributes that is too rarely celebrated.

I will speak in defense of "sick" humor, because I find the ability to laugh about the most horrific of things is one of the truly redemptive things humans are capable of. "If you don't laugh about it, you will cry about it."

But this has to be done well, and that is very, very tricky. The line between hilariously offensive and just plain offensive is very fine. From what I remember of Family Guy, MacFarlane is the kind of guy who clumsily paws away instead of applying the finesse the topic deserves.

So I don't find the idea of cancer jokes horrible, per se. But if it's not funny, it's not funny. I'm not speaking from the point of view of somebody far removed either. I have a very large family, and cancer has been the source of some of the most horrible and draining experiences in my life.

But, like I said, I haven't bothered to watch Family Guy in years.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: dean on February 22, 2011, 07:52:57 AM

Family Guy has lost its edge.  I guess Mcfarlane has a bit too much on his plate now, what being a multi millionaire now.

I still like the show in principle but its too 'samey' each week for me. 


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 22, 2011, 12:49:59 PM
I don't 'dislike' Family Guy, I just mainly stick to the reruns of the first 3-4 years.  Then it came back, twice, and now it seems it's popular to like it.

Personally, I don't get offended easily at all, and at times I run my mouth and if offends people.  I don't intentionally do it, I just seem to lack a moral baromotor (sp?).  Family Guy at times seems to just want to provoke criticism so they can say "We're being ostracized for our art and free speech' without lacking the jokes being, you know, FUNNY.

But, while I liked Family Guy initially, I prefer South Park to the umpteenth degree.  It's a vastly well written show, consistently entertaining, sometimes offensive but damn near always has a point and isn't necessarily cruel for the HELL of it.  Check out their "Cartoon Wars" episodes about Family Guy/Simpsons/King of The Hill.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Warp Ninja X on February 22, 2011, 12:51:41 PM
That's why I watch The Boondocks it way better and more funny. :thumbup:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on February 22, 2011, 05:05:02 PM
I liked the riffing on classic TV cuts but that was about it.  Now I can't be bothered.
-Ed


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 10,000 Volt Ghost on February 22, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
I liked the riffing on classic TV cuts but that was about it.  Now I can't be bothered.
-Ed

Yeah, like seasons 1-3 it used cutbacks or referenced 60's or 70's tv shows as a gag. When it it was renewed it jumped to 80's references every 6 or 7 seconds which are dumb.

Born in '84, raised on more nick at nite.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on February 22, 2011, 10:09:06 PM
I totally agree about South Park, when they do something offensive it's always in the context of the story. Plus they don't rip on the same thing every week. Well, maybe Kyle being a Jew, but that's part of his relationship to Cartman. Kind of like George Jefferson calling Mr. Willis a honkey. Also as twisted as South Park can be, oddly enough, there is an actual sense of morality in that show. It comes down to this, some people are a holes and make jokes they don't mean, while other people are heartless a holes who make jokes and don't care.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Mofo Rising on February 23, 2011, 05:08:40 AM
But, while I liked Family Guy initially, I prefer South Park to the umpteenth degree.  It's a vastly well written show, consistently entertaining, sometimes offensive but damn near always has a point and isn't necessarily cruel for the HELL of it.  Check out their "Cartoon Wars" episodes about Family Guy/Simpsons/King of The Hill.

I think that double episode nailed it completely. The South Park guys are completely fearless. The episodes they make have been some of the most jaw-droppingly offensive things I have ever seen, but the humor there has always been used to prove a surprisingly moralistic point.

I don't always agree with them, but they understand how to use humor to talk about controversial topics. I can't stress enough how "making it funny" changes the situation.

I have a longer post in me about the whole "depiction of Muhammad" they got up to in the same episode, but that's a different story.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Hammock Rider on February 23, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
I don't think Family Guy has been the same since it was brought back.
It was funny because it was always on the edge, now it's just going over which isn't as funny as anyone could do that.


 I agree too. It was always fun to see how close they could get to the line without actually going over it.  I know the line is going to be differnet for everyone but they seem to cross it so often that it's become just cheap shock-jockery.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on February 23, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
I like both South Park and Family Guy. I do agree that Trey Parker and Matt Stone mix it up more and are just a little bit better at satire than Seth MacFarlane, but I still like both shows.

Here's what I find interesting. South Park satires everything, but tend to poke just a little bit more fun at the left. I like they're justification. They don't do it because of a political leaning, they do it because the left, by and large, seem to have a general vibe that it's not okay to make fun of them, and they're basically raising the bulls**t flag on that. Because of the ratio of left vs. right satire, it has led to a pop-culture phenomenon known as "South Park Republicans."

In contrast, Seth MacFarlane's politics are all too obvious, and he makes no apologies for it nor tries to hide it. That's fine too, he doesn't have to. There's no doubt he's trying to push buttons. What's interesting is wherever one rests on the political spectrum tends to dictate which show is more acceptable or better. I thought the Family Guy episode with the Down's Syndrome girl was disturbing and I didn't like it, but nobody can tell me that South Park hasn't been equally offensive about and number of similarly taboo subjects of satire. I don't suffer from a political affiliation that makes either show more offensive than the other, I just think the guys on South Park are marginally better at satire.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 23, 2011, 03:55:21 PM
Making fun of politics,celebirtys,religion,geeks,sexuality,whatever-ok. But making jokes about an incurable illness-like AIDS or cancer. It's not a matter of a politics. It's just shock for shocks sake. Thats great-in a horror film. But I dont think its funny. Its just not funny.
Actually-I dont care for Family Guy or South Park. Never have. Especially Family Guy. There are no-ZERO-likable charecters in that show. The dog mebbe.
I miss Ren and Stimpy.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on February 23, 2011, 04:47:58 PM
Making fun of politics,celebirtys,religion,geeks,sexuality,whatever-ok. But making jokes about an incurable illness-like AIDS or cancer. It's not a matter of a politics. It's just shock for shocks sake. Thats great-in a horror film. But I dont think its funny. Its just not funny.
Actually-I dont care for Family Guy or South Park. Never have. Especially Family Guy. There are no-ZERO-likable charecters in that show. The dog mebbe.
I miss Ren and Stimpy.  :bluesad:

I respect that, I really do. The only thing I disagree with is that ANYTHING can be funny, depending on context, and on whom is observing. I know that sounds horrible, but really, humor can be applied anywhere.

I miss Ren and Stimpy too, but some people found that show offensive and disturbing. I found it slightly disturbing myself, but then I can appreciate disturbing things. All a matter of perspective, I know.

My ex-wife had a sister with Down's Syndrome, and she was, understandably, particularly sensitive to humor aimed at anybody with a mental disability. The Family Guy episode I mentioned in my previous post? That would have sent her into several days of anger and ranting, and if I had actually laughed at a single joke in her presence I would have been in the dog-house for that same amount of time. But yet, you see humor about that kind of thing constantly in movies like The Ringer or Borat, and some people find it funny. What are ya gonna do? If we want a free society then we have to put up with the existence of such things. I like Trevor's approach. If he doesn't like something a certain movie or director or whatever represents, he doesn't watch it.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on February 23, 2011, 05:04:36 PM
I'm glad that this post is raising a dialogue here, because in today's society, so many people are struggling with what is insensitive, and how far do we go? Growing up in the 80's it's almost laughable now at what was controversial back then. Some religious radicals thought things I loved like "Married with Children" and Heavy Metal music were gonna bring about the fall of civilization. So I always felt like nothing could offend me, and now I find myself disturbed by a joke on a cartoon. But I do feel that people are less sensitive to violence and disease and more PC about things like race and religion. As far as sex, it's hasn't been really taboo for along time. I for one don't find it to be nearly as shocking as it used to be, but I'm a perv anyway lol.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: venomx on February 23, 2011, 05:31:29 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/33palj8.jpg)

"Hey kids, I'm Pee Pants the Inebriated Hobo Clown. I'm an adorable tramp who wears found clothing and eats out of your garbage can."

Joking aside...

IMO, I think the show should just stick with pop culture references, alot more fun.

Don't make fun of cancer.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 23, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Making fun of politics,celebirtys,religion,geeks,sexuality,whatever-ok. But making jokes about an incurable illness-like AIDS or cancer. It's not a matter of a politics. It's just shock for shocks sake. Thats great-in a horror film. But I dont think its funny. Its just not funny.
Actually-I dont care for Family Guy or South Park. Never have. Especially Family Guy. There are no-ZERO-likable charecters in that show. The dog mebbe.
I miss Ren and Stimpy.  :bluesad:


I respect that, I really do. The only thing I disagree with is that ANYTHING can be funny, depending on context, and on whom is observing. I know that sounds horrible, but really, humor can be applied anywhere.

I miss Ren and Stimpy too, but some people found that show offensive and disturbing. I found it slightly disturbing myself, but then I can appreciate disturbing things. All a matter of perspective, I know.

My ex-wife had a sister with Down's Syndrome, and she was, understandably, particularly sensitive to humor aimed at anybody with a mental disability. The Family Guy episode I mentioned in my previous post? That would have sent her into several days of anger and ranting, and if I had actually laughed at a single joke in her presence I would have been in the dog-house for that same amount of time. But yet, you see humor about that kind of thing constantly in movies like The Ringer or Borat, and some people find it funny. What are ya gonna do? If we want a free society then we have to put up with the existence of such things. I like Trevor's approach. If he doesn't like something a certain movie or director or whatever represents, he doesn't watch it.


I agree it shouldnt be censored-and like Trevor-I just wont watch it. Cancer is a very touchy subject for me. Religion and politics dint kill my wife. Cancer did. I can also see why that in the 60's many WW 2 survivoirs were upset about HOGANS HEROS. It's a personal thing with me.

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"Hey kids, I'm Pee Pants the Inebriated Hobo Clown. I'm an adorable tramp who wears found clothing and eats out of your garbage can."

Joking aside...

IMO, I think the show should just stick with pop culture references, alot more fun.

Don't make fun of cancer.


Hey-I resemble that remark!  :drink:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: JaseSF on February 23, 2011, 05:55:42 PM
I hate both Family Guy and South Park - both just seem offensive for offensive sake to me. Don't like The Cleveland Show or American Dad either. Actually I did like Family Guy a little back in its early days but now it just seems all about upping the shock ante. Meanwhile I love The Simpsons although some episodes make me cringe (either from being so awful and unoriginal or from promoting something I'm very much against).


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Mr. DS on February 23, 2011, 06:21:35 PM
I like Family Guy a lot, and although it has slipped on joke material in recent years it has held up.  I'm actually surprised on how many people on this board dislike it seeing it's jokes kind of fit toward pop culture we often discuss.  

With that said the jokes about controversial subject matter has always been part of the show.  This includes suicide, paraplegics, ethnic jokes, homosexuality and yes diseases including VD, strokes, alcoholism and cancer.  Thats just naming a few.

I see the point of overusing a joke to it being runover but if you look at the show's history no topic has been off limits.  Thats why I'm hardly ever shocked at something they bring out.  

I recall at one point South Park getting massive popularity.  I watched the show for years then all of a sudden people like my 40 plus year old coworkers were talking about it.  I think eventually the guys shooed that fan base away with the whole "Who's Cartman's Father" episodes never getting a real answer.  Maybe McFarlane is doing the same now or perhaps he's just sick of doing the show period.

By the way, The Cleveland Show is not funny...not even in the least. 


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 23, 2011, 06:44:54 PM
Bring Back Bugs!
Yes-lots of the old cartoons relied on ethnic stero types. But they also made fun of rednecks,bluenoses,drunks...but they did it with class. SOUTH PARK is actually-at times-trying to make a political statement. FAMILY GUY is just crap.

I think the old stuff is funnier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: indianasmith on February 23, 2011, 11:33:15 PM
I'm a KING OF THE HILL guy myself.  Thing is, being from East Texas,
I KNOW some of those characters.  Some days I AM one of them!


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Nightowl on February 24, 2011, 12:50:42 AM
I'm a KING OF THE HILL guy myself.  Thing is, being from East Texas,
I KNOW some of those characters.  Some days I AM one of them!

I'm in the same boat as you. KOTH, believe it or not was funny, but realistic as well and taught you about life. The show could have been a friggin sitcom  :smile:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on February 24, 2011, 10:01:54 AM
Bring Back Bugs!
Yes-lots of the old cartoons relied on ethnic stero types. But they also made fun of rednecks,bluenoses,drunks...but they did it with class. SOUTH PARK is actually-at times-trying to make a political statement. FAMILY GUY is just crap.

I think the old stuff is funnier.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE[/url]


I LOVE the old Warner Bros. cartoons. It seems hard to find them on DVD or through NetFlix without the actual funny stuff edited out of them to "protect our children."

I actually disagree that South Park is trying to make political statements. They're actually not about that. They're much more on the social commentary tip, I think. Yes, they do fit in some political commentary as well, but it's far more social. They don't really take a political stance. Family Guy is more about making political points than South Park.

But it's perfectly okay for you not to like the show, or Family Guy for that matter. I like 'em both.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 24, 2011, 11:38:18 AM
But, while I liked Family Guy initially, I prefer South Park to the umpteenth degree.  It's a vastly well written show, consistently entertaining, sometimes offensive but damn near always has a point and isn't necessarily cruel for the HELL of it.  Check out their "Cartoon Wars" episodes about Family Guy/Simpsons/King of The Hill.

I think that double episode nailed it completely. The South Park guys are completely fearless. The episodes they make have been some of the most jaw-droppingly offensive things I have ever seen, but the humor there has always been used to prove a surprisingly moralistic point.

I don't always agree with them, but they understand how to use humor to talk about controversial topics. I can't stress enough how "making it funny" changes the situation.

I have a longer post in me about the whole "depiction of Muhammad" they got up to in the same episode, but that's a different story.
Did you see the later episodes just like, last season where Comedy Central went just a little bit further in their censorship?  Wow.  I am an unabashed South Park fan, and politically side more with the Libertarian Party than either Democrats or Republicans.  So maybe for me, I find their political shows a little more entertaining than most.  And I like that they only do the show in one week.  They can touch on current topics as they happen.  They had a whole episode about Terry Schiavo as it was happening.  Not the BEST topic for certain people, but it made sense at the time.

I'm a KING OF THE HILL guy myself.  Thing is, being from East Texas,
I KNOW some of those characters.  Some days I AM one of them!

I'm in the same boat as you. KOTH, believe it or not was funny, but realistic as well and taught you about life. The show could have been a friggin sitcom  :smile:
King of the Hill was a vastly underrated show.  I loved it, and feel it was written really, really well.  The last few seasons irritated me, but it wasn't their fault.  They were in a crappy timeslot and I would never get to see it cause it would be pre-empted for NASCAR or NFL, and then they would go straight to The Simpsons.  Shame, really.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on February 24, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
I liked "King of The Hill" too. I totally know real-life versions of those characters. Fox started giving it the "Married with Children" treatment. As soon as the show was into it's later seasons they stuck it in the preempted by football slot. Not fair because the writting was still consistant. KOTH is far superior to "Family Guy" in the writting, where "Family Guy" is better at the jokes.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 24, 2011, 11:40:42 PM
It did get an unfair treatment from Fox.  I am glad though, that Mike Judge is bringing back Beavis and Butt-Head.



Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on February 27, 2011, 12:34:08 PM
I agree 100%. Cancer is a horrible way to die....a very slow and painful death. My wife died of cancer 2 years ago.

It runs on my mother's side of the family.

Starting in 2001, my maternal grandmother passed away from cancer, and it was the first funeral I'd ever attended.  2002: my same grammy's brother (my Uncle Joe) also passes away from cancer.  I won't go thru the entire list, but the last one to pass on in our family was my Aunt Dottie, (my same grandmother's sister) in 2007, making her the 8th one in that time period to pass away from cancer.

One of the casualties in that time frame was my cousin Nancy (breast cancer) whom, ironically enough, lost her 3 year old daughter Melinda to Leukemia back in 1987.

My grandmother's passing is tomorrow, February 28th as a matter of fact.

I'll be a bit low on the emotional end for a few days, but let me extend my condolences to you, RC, and hope that you know you're not alone in your grief.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: wickednick on February 28, 2011, 08:41:47 AM
I've never really understood Family Guy popularity, it does have its moments, but it often just uses nonsensical jokes or extremely annoying humor to fill up the plot line. If you look at a Family Guy episode they really only spend about 10 maybe 15min on the actual story and the rest on stupid jokes.
Family Guy tries to come off as edgy with its offensive jokes, but really shows its immaturity and lack of humor more than anything. Its rips on cancer is a bad attempt at this and the writers should really think a little more about what they are joking about.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: bob on February 28, 2011, 01:09:35 PM
You'd think Seth McFarlene would know better then to "go there" so to speak with tasteless "jokes" since he was almost a board one of the planes on 9/11 and that would've have some affect on him. I guess not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_McFarlene#Personal_life


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on February 28, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
You'd think Seth McFarlene would know better then to "go there" so to speak with tasteless "jokes" since he was almost a board one of the planes on 9/11 and that would've have some affect on him. I guess not.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_McFarlene#Personal_life[/url]



Seth MacFarlane having had a mother who died from cancer, and having narrowly missed a flight that was part of the terrorist attacks on 9/11 make him niether more nor less qualified to joke about either. Perhaps the show serves some cathartic purpose for him personally. Whatever is the case, I stand by what I've said already. Anybody can joke about ANYTHING, and ANYONE can choose not to support it, or to speak out against it as is happening to some extent here. I'm fine with all of the above. It's only when people start talking about restricting freedom that I start to have an issue, and so far I haven't really seen that happen in this thread. So far, so good.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: bladerunnerblues on March 01, 2011, 03:09:20 AM
I think "Family Guy" is funny and I get that they push the envelope. But how many more damn cancer jokes are they gonna make? Has Seth lost anyone to cancer, if he did he wouldn't think it was so funny. I'm not stupid, and uneducated for thinking this. The show is very smart and funny and like it 90% of the time. But somebody should punch him in the mouth for the cancer jokes.
Somebody should punch him in the mouth just because they can.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: JayJayM12 on March 01, 2011, 10:05:44 AM
You'd think Seth McFarlene would know better then to "go there" so to speak with tasteless "jokes" since he was almost a board one of the planes on 9/11 and that would've have some affect on him. I guess not.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_McFarlene#Personal_life[/url]



Seth MacFarlane having had a mother who died from cancer, and having narrowly missed a flight that was part of the terrorist attacks on 9/11 make him niether more nor less qualified to joke about either. Perhaps the show serves some cathartic purpose for him personally. Whatever is the case, I stand by what I've said already. Anybody can joke about ANYTHING, and ANYONE can choose not to support it, or to speak out against it as is happening to some extent here. I'm fine with all of the above. It's only when people start talking about restricting freedom that I start to have an issue, and so far I haven't really seen that happen in this thread. So far, so good.


Couldn't agree more!  (well, if you had thrown in that Kate Winslet and Mila Kunis are hot, then I would agree even more, but you know...)


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 01, 2011, 10:26:59 AM
You'd think Seth McFarlene would know better then to "go there" so to speak with tasteless "jokes" since he was almost a board one of the planes on 9/11 and that would've have some affect on him. I guess not.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_McFarlene#Personal_life[/url]



Seth MacFarlane having had a mother who died from cancer, and having narrowly missed a flight that was part of the terrorist attacks on 9/11 make him niether more nor less qualified to joke about either. Perhaps the show serves some cathartic purpose for him personally. Whatever is the case, I stand by what I've said already. Anybody can joke about ANYTHING, and ANYONE can choose not to support it, or to speak out against it as is happening to some extent here. I'm fine with all of the above. It's only when people start talking about restricting freedom that I start to have an issue, and so far I haven't really seen that happen in this thread. So far, so good.

I completely agree.  I mean, I'm not a big fan of the show.  Not cause it offends me, I just don't like it as much.  But he's got every right to write any joke he wants.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: JaseSF on March 01, 2011, 01:43:51 PM
Seth McFarlane = Butt Munch Giggity Giggity Giggity, Hee hee hee.  :wink:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: 66Crush on March 01, 2011, 05:29:57 PM
I was only speaking figuratively about Seth needing a punch in the mouth. I was in a bad mood when I heard what seemed like the ten thousand five hundredth joke about cancer on a Family Guy rerun.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Killer Bees on March 02, 2011, 05:39:49 AM
I'm glad that this post is raising a dialogue here, because in today's society, so many people are struggling with what is insensitive, and how far do we go? Growing up in the 80's it's almost laughable now at what was controversial back then. Some religious radicals thought things I loved like "Married with Children" and Heavy Metal music were gonna bring about the fall of civilization. So I always felt like nothing could offend me, and now I find myself disturbed by a joke on a cartoon. But I do feel that people are less sensitive to violence and disease and more PC about things like race and religion. As far as sex, it's hasn't been really taboo for along time. I for one don't find it to be nearly as shocking as it used to be, but I'm a perv anyway lol.

The fall of civilisation will be brought about by reality tv and Paris Hilton.  And not necessarily in that order.    :buggedout:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Killer Bees on March 02, 2011, 05:46:27 AM
I agree 100%. Cancer is a horrible way to die....a very slow and painful death. My wife died of cancer 2 years ago.

It runs on my mother's side of the family.

Starting in 2001, my maternal grandmother passed away from cancer, and it was the first funeral I'd ever attended.  2002: my same grammy's brother (my Uncle Joe) also passes away from cancer.  I won't go thru the entire list, but the last one to pass on in our family was my Aunt Dottie, (my same grandmother's sister) in 2007, making her the 8th one in that time period to pass away from cancer.

One of the casualties in that time frame was my cousin Nancy (breast cancer) whom, ironically enough, lost her 3 year old daughter Melinda to Leukemia back in 1987.

My grandmother's passing is tomorrow, February 28th as a matter of fact.

I'll be a bit low on the emotional end for a few days, but let me extend my condolences to you, RC, and hope that you know you're not alone in your grief.  :bluesad:

I'm sorry for your family losses, Umaril.  Much love and hugs from me  :smile:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: RCMerchant on March 02, 2011, 06:18:02 AM
I agree 100%. Cancer is a horrible way to die....a very slow and painful death. My wife died of cancer 2 years ago.

It runs on my mother's side of the family.

Starting in 2001, my maternal grandmother passed away from cancer, and it was the first funeral I'd ever attended.  2002: my same grammy's brother (my Uncle Joe) also passes away from cancer.  I won't go thru the entire list, but the last one to pass on in our family was my Aunt Dottie, (my same grandmother's sister) in 2007, making her the 8th one in that time period to pass away from cancer.

One of the casualties in that time frame was my cousin Nancy (breast cancer) whom, ironically enough, lost her 3 year old daughter Melinda to Leukemia back in 1987.

My grandmother's passing is tomorrow, February 28th as a matter of fact.

I'll be a bit low on the emotional end for a few days, but let me extend my condolences to you, RC, and hope that you know you're not alone in your grief.  :bluesad:

They say it gets better with time...I don't believe it. I think we just deal with it better.

As far as FAMILY GUY is concerned-I dont think they show should be censored...they have the right to say what they want. I just dont watch it anymore.
(I DID like the episode where Stewie invents a device that enables him and Brian to travel to parallel univerese's...that was quite well done,art wise...)


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on March 02, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
I'm glad that this post is raising a dialogue here, because in today's society, so many people are struggling with what is insensitive, and how far do we go? Growing up in the 80's it's almost laughable now at what was controversial back then. Some religious radicals thought things I loved like "Married with Children" and Heavy Metal music were gonna bring about the fall of civilization. So I always felt like nothing could offend me, and now I find myself disturbed by a joke on a cartoon. But I do feel that people are less sensitive to violence and disease and more PC about things like race and religion. As far as sex, it's hasn't been really taboo for along time. I for one don't find it to be nearly as shocking as it used to be, but I'm a perv anyway lol.

The fall of civilisation will be brought about by reality tv and Paris Hilton.  And not necessarily in that order.    :buggedout:

I agree with that. I hate the reality tv culture. I am convinced that sooner or later, our presidents will be elected via reality show elimination.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Newt on March 02, 2011, 10:22:52 AM
I am convinced that sooner or later, our presidents will be elected via reality show elimination.

You mean they aren't?


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Flick James on March 02, 2011, 11:20:53 AM
I am convinced that sooner or later, our presidents will be elected via reality show elimination.

You mean they aren't?

 :bouncegiggle: :cheers:

Not yet.


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: bob on March 02, 2011, 02:40:13 PM
I am convinced that sooner or later, our presidents will be elected via reality show elimination.

You mean they aren't?

Give it time, give it time.  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: What's Seth McFarlene's problem?
Post by: Killer Bees on March 03, 2011, 04:50:49 AM
That can't be all bad though.  I'm convinced our Prime Miniter is a Cylon with serious Aspergers's Sydnrome    :buggedout: