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1. Hitler! Of course!

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O yes I did!

2) John Wayne Gacy

3. Hillary Rodham Clinton

4. Joseph Stalin  :thumbdown:

I  would say -

5. Ted Bundy before I say Hillary Clinton. Did Hillary have sex with decapitated heads?
Not that I know of.Try not to make this political, Lester.

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6. Albert Fish

This f**king guy-

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/this-property-was-the-scene-of-one-of-the-world-s-most-gruesome-child-murders (https://www.marieclaire.com.au/this-property-was-the-scene-of-one-of-the-world-s-most-gruesome-child-murders)

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7. Dean Corll


It may be funny, but ridiculous.   :lookingup:

9) Ronald Clark O’Bryan
Not only did he murder his own son, but he ruined it for everybody for generations to come!

Yeah. I remember that. In Texas. Real sick f**k.
Even though I read a lot about this guy-I do think that he is f**king evil.
Manson took teenage girls and conned them into commitng murder.
He's a maniac.

10. Charles Manson

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10. Caligula

I messed up the numbers - Corllkunt should have been #7... 10 is right for Caligula...

11. I'm gonna take your word for it, John! Because I don't know!

Oh! This f**king guy!
Russian serial killer -this crazy motherf**ker.

 Andrei Chikatilo

http://youtu.be/xABKVggE4SU (http://youtu.be/xABKVggE4SU)

12) Uday Hussein, Saddam's son who was more evil than Saddam himself.

13) Harold Shipman.

14. Henry VIII

IGH!

By today's standards, he'd either be trailer trash or an overpaid celebrity of some sort.....
1 divorced
2 executed
3 died in childbirth
4 divorced
5 executed
6 survived

Huh?
Died in childbirth? How can you be evil if you died in childbirth?  :question:

15 Jeffrey Dahmer

Henry VIII third wife Jayne Seymour died in childbirth...
He divorced his first & fourth wives (considered evil for it's day) & executed his second & fifth wives...

It was the two executions that pretty much established his reputation.

16) Ray Dandridge
17) Ricky Gray
18) Even though she became a victim, she started out as a partner, Ashley Baskerville

IGH ?   :question: 

Probably missed typed ugh.
OT:
19 & 20) Leonard Lake and Charles Ng (http://youtu.be/PgXgyLMOyIY)

Something like that.....

Chairman Mao -
The Communist thug executed or starved FORTY MILLION Chinese citizens.
Forty million . . . that's more than the entire population of Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana combined!

22 Bill Cosby
23 Benito Mussolini
24 Pol Pot

25) John Allen Muhammad
26) Lee Boyd Malvo

IGH = I get horny...


27. Herod the Great

I don't know how else to spell that nasal variant of a grunt I make...
Here is an example using "Eh".....
http://youtu.be/YSxCT1Faw6k (http://youtu.be/YSxCT1Faw6k)

28. Vlad the Impaler

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29. Randy Kraft
30. Dennis Rader 

I wanna say Ed Gein, but I don't think he's evil. He's just plain ape s**t nuts.

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EDIT: Well hell! I mucked that up!
 I meant to post this-

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Gotta get your freak on, I reckon!   :buggedout:

31. All joking aside. This f**king guy.  :hatred: I remember this s**t when I was in high school.

Jim Jones

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Thomas Midgley Jr.

I'm coming into this one a little bit late, so let me play catchup real quick. 

33.  Elizabeth Bathory
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34.  Giles De Rais
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35.  Sawney Bean
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36) Timur the lame.

37) Torquemada.

Ghengis Khan - According to THE GREAT BIG BOOK OF HORRIBLE THINGS, he is tied with Chairman Mao as history's greatest butcher, being directly responsible for the deaths of some forty million human beings.  Men, women, and children - the Mongols did not conquer, they simply exterminated under his command, leaving mounds of skulls where severed cities once stood.  He was also a serial rapist, copulating with so many helpless women that he has sixteen million descendants living today.  The terrifying thing about that statistic is that, despite having sixteen million living descendants, he hasn't even replaced HALF the people he killed.  And yet he is a national hero to the people of Mongolia, and as they are so often prone to do, modern academics bend over backwards to forgive his atrocities and make him out to be some sort of great leader.

39. Patrick Kearney

40. My first wife!

I mean Jane Toppan!
Or "Jolly Jane", her serial killer moniker.

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"Toppan was a nurse who killed dozens of patients. She was nicknamed “Jolly Jane.” She confessed to 31 murders after her arrest in 1901. She would kill the victims with different combinations of medicine and chemicals and even climb into bed with them after administering the dose. She was found not guilty by reason of insanity and committed to the Taunton Insane Hospital for life."

That's the worst name ever.
EDIT: I just read about him. Dam That guy liked to make war. f**k him! Yeah. He's evil.

41) Delphine LaLaurie

42.Bobby Vinton!

 I mean the Yorkshire Ripper- Peter Sutcliffe.
 I just watched a documentary about this scumbag.

43. Chainsaw Midget

44. Idi Amin
Surprised The Butcher Of Uganda wasn't mentioned yet!  No way should he have lived to be 78.

 :lookingup: 

He gave me a negative karma for saying hillary clinton  :bouncegiggle:

45. DONALD TRUMP

43) John List
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_List (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_List)

43...?  43???  Are you trying to make me crazy?   :twirl:

56 and a half!
(I have no clue what numbers we're on now.)


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Luis Garavito also known as "the Beast"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Garavito

Number ??

Chris Watts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_family_murders

48

watts is an original fnckhed

Actually- 47. I'm not counting Chainsaw Midget.  :lookingup:

48. L.Ron Hubbard

This nutsack made millions by making his pulp fiction nonsense into a religion.
I don't feel bad for his followers, just their children who were born into this lunacy.

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Does Tom Cruise have children? I hope not.

Dahmer. I don't know if i think he's evil or not. I think he was just flat out crazy. Like Ed Gein.
Some people are just flat out insane. Evil? Yeah- I reckon so.But- I dunno.
Bah! He's evil.
He tried to blame his having sex with frozen body parts on his Dad.
He's smart and glib. Gein babbled.
Scumbag.

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Oh, could I ever put someone on this list, but I guess I'll leave his name off while he sits to the end of his days in a British prison.

49 Amon Göth

He had unforgivably bad skin, too. Really, is washing your face twice a day too much to ask when all you have to do with the rest of your time is manage a death camp? Come on, dude.

I replaced the bulls**t 43 with John List

yeah got to keep the sanctity of a list on a message board. after all we're at the UN and this is going t out to the whole world

Yeah. But it's not nice to call a member of a forum evil.
I would call- or could- call you evil. Just because I don't agree with your insane political beliefs don't mean I think your evil. Deluded- eh. Evil? No.
C'mon, man. Calling Hillary and Chainsaw evil is just being whiney.

he should be number one most evil for waht he did

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Why are you being this so f**king petty over f**king karma?

:bouncegiggle: :lookingup:

worse than hitler

I give you negative karma just for being a troll.
Learn how to put words together and spell. And use Capitals. Nobody is going to take you serious if you act like a child. I use words like ' cocksucker' and 'mother f**ker'.
I never called a member of this board that. So shut the f**k up.
Worse than Hitler. Your a moron.
You just called Chainsaw worse than Hitler. f**k you.

you who swears at people and derails every thread giving someone ELSE negative karma is 2020 in a nutshell

50) Samuel Little, a convicted serial killer and serial rapist who so happened to have died yesterday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Little (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Little)

51: Hendrick Verwoerd and John Vorster.

52.  The Axeman of New Orleans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axeman_of_New_Orleans#

53. The Cleveland Torso Killer
Real scumbag. Killed bums in Cleveland for years. Wrote taunting letters to Elliot Ness. Dissected people. Threw body parts all over the place. A sick f**k. He was never caught.

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Well, this escalated quickly. And a Happy New Year  :cheers:

54. Tsutomu Miyazaki
Sicko Japanese cannibal/rapist/necrophile who murdered, dismembered and sexually molested the corpses of 4 young girls in Tokyo and the Saitama Prefecture in the late 1980s.  Hung in 2008.  His interest in anime and horror films brought about a moral panic in Japan.

55) Shoko Asahara
Japanese cult leader of the doomsday cult Aum Shinrikyo who was behind the 1995 sarin-gas attack in the Japanese subways
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoko_Asahara (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoko_Asahara)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack)

56 Jim Jones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

He was #31.

56. Pol Pot.

57) Aileen Wuornos

he was 29 or something like that on page 2

Did anyone say JACK THE RIPPER? 

58. Jodi Arias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Travis_Alexander

59

Harvey Weinstein

No. 60. JACK THE RIPPER

61. Henrich Himmler
Scumbag.

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62. Osama bin Laden
Founded the militant terrorist group al-Qaeda.  His role in bombing US embassies and masterminding the 9/11 attacks led the US to declare the "War On Terror".  A 10-year manhunt for him ended with his death by US Navy SEAL gunfire in a Pakistan compound.  He once said "that since the United States is a democracy, all citizens bear responsibility for its government's actions, and civilians are therefore fair targets."  Good riddance, scumbag.

63. H.H. Holmes

Had a murder hotel in Chicago . This guy did f**ked up s**t.
He built this place just to kill people.

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I always have a problem with her. I think she's insane and very angry- but evil? I dunno. I think she just went apes**t. Yes- she murdered people.
I think she lost her mind. I think she was nuts.
Evil? No. Apes**t f**king insane? Yes.

http://youtu.be/yFBcjII3QAE (http://youtu.be/yFBcjII3QAE)

EDIT:
And I just rewatched it. She's insane. BUT I don't think she is evil. Like Ed Gein. Girl lost it. You can see it in her eyes.
This women believes every crazy thing she is saying.

64: Robert Mugabe, the leader of Zimbabwe.

Turned a thriving nation into almost a desolate country which just happened to be my birth country.

Never mind all the war crimes he committed.   :hatred:

 In a weird way, that's how I always felt about Osama Bin Laden...
The US made this guy during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, Then he got his feelings hurt when he wasn't called on to liberate Kuwait from Iraq, Then the Clintons spent eight years p**sing this guy off...
Don't get me wrong, he always had it coming after his first attack on the US, but it was always a myth that he & Saddam Hussein were buddies, and the first few attempts to get this guy were international embarrassments.

The administrations instrumental in the creation of the monster are not mentioned by you - except Clinton's. 

^ Yeh. I think George Bush was president when 9-11 happened.
Bin Laden became the leader of al Queda when Ronald Reagan was president in 1988.
And there was George Bush Sr, then Clinton, then Obama- who killed him.
Not personally, of course.
Oh-PS-
He's not from Afghanistan. He's a Saudi.

A major component of bin Laden's ideology was the concept that civilians from enemy countries, including women and children, were legitimate targets for jihadists to kill. Yeah.
Aileen killed 7 men. Bin Laden killed- gee- I have no clue. I know the Twin Towers and the attacks in Pennsylvania and the Pentagon killed lots of people too. That takes calculated planning. I don't thin Aileen planned anything in her life one second to the next.

65. Saddam Hussein
One of the scum I was first thinking of when I saw this thread.  5th president of Iraq and revolutionary leader.  Ran an oppressive dictatorship during his time in office.  Iraqi deaths during his regime were estimated to be at least 250,000.  His invasion of Iran and Kuwait caused many more.  Openly defiant towards the UN for their stance on nuclear weapons and was captured in 2003 by American forces.  Executed by hanging at the end of 2006.

I DID mention that the US made this guy during Russian invasion of Afghanistan...  I don't know if Reagan himself chose this guy, but it would have been with a lot of help from the American CIA, but even more so, from the American press...

What turned him against the United States, was when Bush Sr liberated Kuwait from Saddam Hussein...  Bin Laden thought that should've been his duty, & was some sort of sacrilege to let the US do it.....  He later got kick outa Saudi Arabia because he wouldn't let it go....

And he didn't start attacking the United States until the Clintons were in office.

^ so your saying he is in his rights to take out the Twin Towers?
And it's Bill Clinton's fault that Bin Laden was a maniac?  :lookingup:
Neville Chamberlin- the Prime Minister of England declared " Peace in our time" after meeting Hitler just before Germany blitzed Poland. Neville didn't create Hitler.
Clinton did't create Osama.
I don't really think whoever was president would have mattered. He was a scumbag.

He was a scumbag from day one.

No, like I said in my original post, he always had it coming...
But then, Clinton couldn't do more than bomb his Aspirin factory....
And I'm not sure if anybody remembers, but when 9-11 happened, Clinton wasn't appalled like the rest of America, rather, he was downright jealous it didn't happen on his watch.......

^ What?  :question:
Where do you come up with this?
Forget I asked- or even wonder why or how you come up with these 'facts'.
I don't wanna know.  :bluesad:

You definitely asserted bin laden had it coming.   :thumbup:
Your hatred of Clinton is clearly political and your new assertion is... absurd?  Were you living in his head?  Cheeze and crackers how could you possibly know what was in his head?  That's crackerkriest crazy. 

66.?  joseph goebbels

The architect of the holocaust, it murdered 6 of its children too.   :hatred:

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67 and 68

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Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole

The exact number of people these two killed is unknown, but they have confessed to hundreds of murders, although in many case it appears many of the ones they admitted to may have simply been due to the police using them to close files. 

Ottis also bragged about being a cannibal and would eat people simply to save on grocery bills. 
Henry claimed he wasn't a cannibal because he didn't like Ottis's BBQ sauce. 

The movie Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer was loosely based on them. 

List so far.

1. Adolf Hitler
2. John Wayne Gacy
3. Hillary Rodham Clinton
4. Joseph Stalin
5. Ted Bundy
6. Albert Fish
7. Dean Corll
8. Ronald Clark O’Bryan
9. Charles Manson
10. Caligula
11. Andrei Chikatilo
12. Uday Hussein
13. Harold Shipman
14. Henry VIII
15. Jeffrey Dahmer
16. Ray Dandridge
17. Ricky Gray
18. Ashley Baskerville
19. Leonard Lake
20. Charles Ng
21. Mao Tse-tung
22. Bill Cosby
23. Benito Mussolini
24. Pol Pot
25. John Allen Muhammad
26. Lee Boyd Malvo
27. Herod the Great
28. Vlad the Impaler
29. Randy Kraft
30. Dennis Rader
31. Jim Jones
32. Thomas Midgley Jr.
33. Elizabeth Bathory
34. Giles De Rais
35. Sawney Bean
36. Timur the Lame
37. Tomás de Torquemada
38. Ghengis Khan
39. Patrick Kearney
40. Jane Toppan
41. Delphine LaLaurie
42. Peter Sutcliffe
43. Idi Amin
44. Donald Trump
45. John List
46. Luis Garavito
47. Chris Watts
48. L. Ron Hubbard
49. Amon Göth
50. Samuel Little
51. Hendrick Verwoerd
52. John Vorster
53. Axeman of New Orleans
54. Cleveland Torso Murderer
55. Tsutomu Miyazaki
56. Shoko Asahara
57. Pedro Lopez
58. Javed Iqbal
59. Aileen Wuornos
60. Jodi Arias
61. Harvey Weinstein
62. Jack the Ripper
63. Heinrich Himmler
64. Osama bin Laden
65. H.H. Holmes
66. Robert Mugabe
67. Saddam Hussein
68. Joseph Goebbels
69. Henry Lee Lucas
70. Ottis Toole

71

Bernard Francis Law - he covered up molestation of children by Catholic priests

72. Josef Mengele
Nazi doctor who executed and experimented tons of prisoners during WWII.  Nicknamed "The Angel Of Death"; he's no angel.  Fled to Argentina and Brazil in the 50s/60s to escape capture.  Drowned in 1979.

ER said it years ago and I've never forgotten it.  We agree completely. 

73. ted cruz  :thumbdown:  Completely lacking self respect, it is a fraud, shyster, scumbag liar, turncoat traitor.  Turd.  That thing desecrates the memory of Grandpa Munster!

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74 Hiram Wesley Evans - Imperial Wizard of the KKK from 1922–1939

75 William Joseph Simmons - Imperial Wizard of the KKK from 1915 to 1922

76 James A. Colescott - Imperial Wizard of the KKK from  1939 to 1944

With both 57 and 58 being taken already I want to replace them with these two:
Pedro Lopez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_(serial_killer))

Javed Iqbal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Iqbal_(serial_killer) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Iqbal_(serial_killer))

added to the list

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77.  Madame Delphine LaLaurie
A New Orleans socialite that brutally tortured and mutilated her slaves for her own amusement. 
She wasn't even supposed to have slaves in the first place.  Authorities of the time had forbidden her from buying slaves and had previously forced her to sell the one she already had.

 

 :question:

Mentioned her earlier
#41

Both Jim Jones and Pol Pot were on the list twice, I wanted to replace the duplicates with the two others.

77 Joseph McCarthy -

Former Wisconsin Senator who invented McCarthyism  -  the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason, especially when related to communism, without any proper regard for evidence. The term refers to U.S. senator Joseph McCarthy (R-Wisconsin) and has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting from the late 1940s through the 1950s. It was characterized by heightened political repression and a campaign spreading fear of communist influence on American institutions and of espionage by Soviet agents.

He single handedly destroyed many peoples careers and lives.

78) James T. Hodgkinson

79 James Eagan Holmes - responsible for the Aurora movie theater shooting in 2012

80. Franco- not James Franco, but the Spanish dictator.



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81) Susan Rosenberg

Kim Jong-il

83  Vladimir Putin

Sorry, you're all wrong. The answer is: Jesus.

Why? Because Jesus took on the sins of the others, meaning Jesus was guilty of treason, murder, child rape, theft, bestiality, watching the BBC without a license, spitting on the sidewalk, you name it.

What? Didn't you guys ever spend thirteen years in Catholic school?

Did anybody say Hitler yet?

I know they did- :wink:.
But I gotta meet my Hitler quota this month!  :drink:

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That is a purposefully ignorant depiction of a Catholic tenet. 

^ Wasn't that groovy! I am an atheist. Jesus was evil because- huh?
 
Back on topic-

This guy-

84. Benito Mussolini

He's doing the Donald Trump thing! Crossing his arms and stiffing his mouth!

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I'm going to look at every post on this thread because that's how full my days are of  drama, action, and romance, just to see if he was.

EDIT: were still on 83. Claws did a list, and Benito was 24.
I dunno...
Oh yeah!

84.George Lincoln Rockwell- founder of the American Nazi Party.
I'm sorry I keep posting nazis in this thread-but f**k. They're nazis!

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Is that a Popeye pipe sticking out of his face?
I have a corncob pipe too! I took the plastic stem off and it's so resined now by pot that it's unsmokable ,unless I ream it like Roto-Rooter.

".... He takes on the sins of the world...." Is said in every Mass, John. Don't you pay attention?

" He takes on the sins of the world" doesn't mean he commited the sins of the world.

That's twisted.
I thought you were knowledgeable about religion. You just use it as a tool to belittle people.

When I went to Spain in late 2018 / early 2019 one of the places they had originally planned to take us to the Valle de los Caídos in San Lorenzo de El Escorial, where  he was originally buried but they weren't able to take us there.  Franco just got moved out to another cemetery a couple years ago.  Burying him at the Valley in the first place was an own goal by the Spanish Government at the time as Franco didn't want to be buried there but the government insisted and gave him an honor he totally did not deserve.

No, RC, that did not originate with me, that's very old Christian doctrine. It's been spoken of by everyone from Billy Graham to...well, a great many others. It was a frequent admonishment when we'd act up in grade school. "Everything you do bad, you make Jesus guilty of doing."

To take on a sin means it becomes yours. The responsibility for it, the guilt. Jesus became guilty of the wrongdoing of those whose sins he accepted upon himself. "The unblemished sacrifice who became guilty of the sins of the world."

Heck, an evangelical preacher even have me good karma for the post, if you notice.

I'm surprised you've never heard of that, let alone John, since it's in the Catholic Mass, both Trindentine (which dates from the third century) and in many versions of the Novus Ordo Mass, which was formulated in the 1960s and altered more recently in the United States under a conference of American bishops headed by Archbishop Pilarczyk in the 1990s.

I don't see how I belittled anyone posting that. John on the other hand replied, belittling me, if you notice.

What I posted came from what I was taught in my upbringing, and obviously I’m not alone in taking that interpretation. If someone disagrees or comes from a background that taught otherwise, I respect that.

I will mention one thing here. You know how as he was dying Jesus called out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Did you know that was him referencing Psalm 22, which he was fulfilling at that moment? Well in that psalm there is the line, “I am a worm, hardly human.” There is nobility in most self-sacrifice, but the self-loathing Jesus evinced then is sometimes explained by the fact that in completing his mission he had taken on wrongdoings from across time, becoming in effect as low as a worm, and barely human, as I think we all agree some people are in this world.

It’s something to think about, both for the message of the Pslam and the fact Jesus was fulfilling something written in the 6th century BC.

(I just wanted to add that.)

Your characterization still is a purposefully ignorant depiction of a Catholic tenet.

 WTF are you babbling about?
Convoluted BS.
What's your point?
Try to inject LOGIC into your argument, then maybe I will take you serious.
And making a reference to Billy Graham does not help. The guy made millions of dollars from being a preacher. Buddy with Nixon. He was a big money phony. He started all this evangelical political s**t.
It's not religion. It's a business.
If that's a "christian" doctrine- I want no part of it.

:bouncegiggle: We really going to chase our tails back and forth, RC? Again? Really? Why not STS about Shirley Jackson instead?

All right, how about I make this my last reply to the matter?

I cited Billy Graham because millions of people have a high opinion on his knowledge of his religion. I was saying if my statement about Jesus was ignorant, then experts share the same ignorance.

As for logic, well, believing in something in part because an event predicted in the 500s BC came true in the 1st century AD might be termed logical, but your bigotry against religion is something you've made well known.

I don't know if you're drinking now but sobriety honestly does often allow clearer thinking, so if you are partaking, maybe consider this another time?

So your argument against mine is I must be drunk? That's grasping straws. Churchill was a drunk. Hitler never drank. I can out debate you lying flat on my face then you can standing on a soapbox waving a Bible any day of the week. You take personal jabs at me because you have no real answer.
What's your excuse for the hoodoo that comes out of your mouth?
As far as the rest goes, you're the one who brought up this topic of religion.
And I comment about movies all the time. You might want to try it.
Instead of being a drama queen.

PS. Experts? Name these " experts". Again- all mouth, no proof.

Stick with what you know- which is quaint Garrison Keillor diatribes.

ER's original post was a bit tongue in cheek, but she has clarified it sufficiently.
The whole point of the redemptive work of Christ was that he took on the sins of the world in order to pay the price for our sakes.
The Bible plainly says: "He who knew no sin BECAME SIN on our behalf."
It's fine if you reject Christianity - you've made it clear long since that you have no regard for any religion - but what she was expressing in her own wry fashion is an age-old doctrine of the Church, as she referenced in her second post.

And went on to slam John and talk s**t.
"wry fashion"?
Is that what you call bulls**t nowadays?
Your right- I don't follow any religion. I don't give a rats ass. But she was slamming others beliefs. That's ok, I reckon.
 ER said I am bigoted to all religion. She seems to be against  all beliefs beyond hers. That's being a bigot as well. I reckon were ALL bigots, huh? Because of our beliefs?
I NEVER push my atheism onto others- meanwhile she's ok to preach to others.
I took the first post as some kind of joke. But she dragged it out and defended what she said on and on. When it offended John, she kept prodding. For what purpose?

Ron, I don't think you could out-debate anyone, you just rant.

Says the pot to the kettle.  :lookingup:
Majorie Taylor Greene read too much Emily Dickinson.
Pretty talk. No substance. What was your point in the first place for posting Christ as evil? Beyond being a smart ass?
You call me out for not being religious- yet it's ok for you to joke about Jesus Christ being evil.
WTF? Why are you trying to turn this table onto me?
I didn't say Christ was evil. You did.

 :bouncegiggle: 

I just did, dear.  :tongueout:

John, if you care to cite, in private, exactly how I am misrepresenting fundamental Christian  doctrines repeatedly clarified to me and my classmates in theology lectures by a Jesuit scholar with double doctorates, please feel free, but to say I'm wrong and then offer no other counterpoint doesn't bring anything to this hijacked discussion. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is available online and it might help broaden your familiarity with the faith you think you're defending if you take some time to study exactly what the catechism says on this matter.

I guess I missed when that happened, RC.

You miss a lot of things, I reckon.

85    Sven

No. He is not one of the most EVIL people who ever lived.

C'mon, man.

This thread is just getting stupid.
Nobody can think of a serial killer or political despot? The last couple have been Jesus and Sven.
AH! I give up. List whoever you want!  :lookingup:
And when I half to say those words in the same sentence, you know sh!t is getting surreal.

Ah the voice of reason. He must be getting sober.

Dear, me sweetie, love of my life-

I been sober all day. I'm just about to drink right now, me rose!  :thumbup:

Well, RC, it's not that I could tell if you were drunk but you have to admit, the odds were not unreasonable that you could have been. Actually that news disappoints me since you're usually only mean to me when you're drunk and are sometimes downright sweet.

Instead of the absolute prick you can be.

I thank you for the compliment!  :thumbup:

Evelyn:  Shshsh.  I never said "wrong" or "misrepresent".  "Hijacked"?  By WHOM?  And don't confuse your argument with RC as having anything to do with me.  "Spitting on the sidewalk" "child rape"... I don't care for those remarks.  They are arrogant, not clever.  What do you illustrate regarding faith, devotion, sacrifice?  You show a cocky attitude fraught with doubt.  Then you try to make something else out of it, tack it on like it's a game of tag.  Broad statements also take broad assumptions and both of you make broad assumptions. 

I'm sorry , John, if I made "broad assumptions".

I'm all done with this line of conversation. It goes nowhere.

f**k all this.
Peace, man.

And peace to ER. Believe it or not, I like you a lot.

WTF were we ralking about?
 Oh yeah -EVIL PEOPLE.

85. H.H. Holmes

Scumbag who killed women, stole they're money, and disposed of them in his hotel in Chicago.

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86. OLIVER CROMWELL

You are pedantic, and mistaken.  Jesus taking on the sins of the World does not make him EVIL. Your original premise is a misnomer.  Capiche? 

^ HERE 'TIS!   :hot:

Careful or indy will tell you why Cromwell was the sort of guy you'd want living next door to you.  :bouncegiggle:

Where I come from, when someone wants to say something is drastically awful, the term often is, ".....worse than the part of Hell where they've got Cromwell..."

I'd imagine he would be telling the demons off for not punishing him enough.

We agree about something...

I've gotten myself in trouble over there pointing out Cromwell was a better soldier than the Irish and that's why he was able to do so much holy warrior damage amid those green fields. For some reason that observation doesn't go down well.

Cromwell burned whole villages to the ground - including churches with families inside them.  He was a hateful bastard.

The stories of him doing that post-date his invasion of Ireland by a century.  There is no real contemporary evidence that he did so.
Cromwell became a convenient whipping boy for the Irish, since with the restoration of the monarchy he was an Englishman they were allowed and encouraged to hate. He did lay down a pretty good buttwhipping on them, but his tactics were no more or less brutal than the typical invading army of the time.

I warned him, Indy!  :bouncegiggle: :thumbup:

Wrong.  There is evidence in CROMWELL's own lifetime of him denying such charges that he blamed on out-of-control troops.  He hated Catholics and the Irish. "Whipping boy" after the English practice of waging their wars over the Irish sea so as to avoid damages to their own homeland?  There has been a lot of restoration of Cromwell's image since the 19th century, all politically motivated.  You also offer convenient contemporaneous excuses. 

The best analysis I have read of Cromwell's Irish campaign was by an Irish historian.   I don't remember his name, but the title of the book was CROMWELL: THE HONORABLE ENEMY.  His point was that Cromwell's armies were no more nor less brutal than other 17th century armies, and that many of the atrocity stories were either exaggerated or completely fabricated, when analyzed in light of contemporary records and/or archeological evidences.

One example he sighted was a town, I believe called "Drougheda" or something like that (the book is in my library at work and I'm at home), in which Cromwell was alleged to have put to death every man over the age of ten in the town, and burned all of its buildings to the ground.  Yet there is a record of the city's council meeting in a guildhall a month after the alleged massacre, with all members in attendance. 

That is not convincing.  Good remarks, but there remains evidence that Cromwell really did terrible things in Ireland.

Pick up the book if you get the chance.  It's a good read, and very well researched.

Unfortunately for me I just don't read anymore.  I have read some obscure sources regarding the history of the three kingdoms my family comes from.  I will challenge you to advise if you can find the surname of the executioner of CHARLES I.  I believe that ancestor is an ancestor on my father's side.  In any case, there is much difference of opinion on Cromwell.  And interest. 

If I run across it, I will let you know.

Back to topic:

Has anyone mentioned for #87

PETER KURTEN - the "Vampire of Dusseldorf" was a serial killer in Germany in the 1920's who killed young runaway boys, butchered them, and then served their meat to unwitting customers at his meat market.  He was executed by guillotine, as I recall.

And asked the executioner if his head would still be able to see the blood gushing from his neck hole before he died!
" It will be my greatest pleasure!"
My kinda guy!  :buggedout:

The guy who butchered boys and made meat pies from their dead bodies was another German serial killer from the same time period- not Peter Kurten.
88. Fritz Haarman.

Peter Kurten-

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Fritz Haarman-

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Whats with the little Chaplain mustashios with evil Germans?

Yeah, I looked that up after I posted it last night.  Grisly history there.

Has anybody put Donald Harvey on the list? Heck, did I long ago? I should check but too tired.

If not, then can I submit him for number eighty-eight?

I guess someone like Donald Harvey brings up the question, is everyone who commits horrific deeds evil? Was Harvey evil (his actions certainly were) or is a better word "twisted"? Maybe evil requires sanity and a recognition that what one is doing rejects the notions of goodness, and yet one willingly descends into the state of evil? I'm not sure people like Donald Harvey or H.H. Holmes or Jeffrey Dahmer begin on a level playing field and so may not be evil, even if they do evil. After all, there is such a thing as insanity.

To say someone is evil....well, are we judged on who or what we are, or are we judged by what we do, and the deeds are what defines evil, more than the doer?

Maybe?

89.? HERNAN CORTES ("Cortez The Killer") 

90. Whoever invented black licorice.

91. Girolamo Savonarola
92. Tomas de Torquemada

93, Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria, Stalin's right-hand man, head of state security and internal affairs in the USSR.

Beria was  a serial rapist, a sadist, a corrupt and cruel man, and many think he was intended to be Stalin's posthumous "revenge" on the world, since it was expected by many, especially Beria himself, that Beria would be Stalin's successor.

The executioner who put him down the summer after Stalin's death did a very good day's work.

The portrayal of him in DEATH OF STALIN was brilliant, and spot-on!
All the Politburo members loathed him.

94. Vladimir Putin


Putin quoted Russian writer Leo Tolstoy just the other day.  : “There's no happiness in life, only a mirage of it on the horizon.” Such a cheerful piece of s**t.
That scumbag is twisting Tolstoy into some weird s**t.
Putin is saying "Your life is not going to get better-deal with it."
Scumbag.

Insecure, inadequate, idiot. 

Yeah, and Putin's pretty bad, too!

(I kid, RC, I kid!)

One thing Putin is NOT is an idiot.  The man is ruthless, evil, opportunistic, and cynical - but he's clever, perhaps even brilliant.  He's remained at the top in Russia for 20 years now, no easy task.  And, for all his wickedness, he's generally effective and pragmatic.  He's outlasted every U.S. President this century and will outlast this one, too, I suspect.

"Idiot" is a great insult for a man like putin, of course, I chose it because of alliteration.  Reconsidering, he is an idiot when it comes to right and wrong.

95. Thomas Midgley.

The man whose two most famous inventions have been responsible for a number of deaths that can only be guessed at, not to mention the environmental damage they inflicted. There is evidence that he was at least aware of the potential health risks of adding lead to petrol but ignored them under pressure from his employers, although I'd say he can be given a pass for using CFC's in refrigerators as it wasn't known back then how much damage that would cause. I doubt he set out to kill anyone and I thought long and hard about wither he should be on this list, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It is perhaps oddly fitting that he himself died as a result of one of his inventions when he got caught up in some of its ropes and was strangled.

I'm pretty sure I listed him a while ago

edit: yup #83

So were on 95 now? Maybe we can put this f**king post to rest?

95. Did anybody say Pol Pot yet?

I think so...