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Title: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 27, 2022, 02:30:46 PM
I am going to start this thread off with the opening of the horror that is Sam Firstenberg's Operation Delta Force (1997)  :buggedout:

My apologies in advance.  :teddyr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpjtrgAVTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpjtrgAVTU)


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: claws on March 27, 2022, 03:20:06 PM
Cobra Force (1988)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE80Ze9mrFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE80Ze9mrFE)

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2/10
So atrocious it is somewhat funny
ove-helleren 10 July 2005

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10/10
Greatest Low Budget South African Movie!
comradcorner 10 June 2002


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: bob on March 27, 2022, 06:16:55 PM
Nukie (1987)

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-xmeLyRl3c#)


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 27, 2022, 10:27:13 PM
Cobra Force (1988)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE80Ze9mrFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE80Ze9mrFE)

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2/10
So atrocious it is somewhat funny
ove-helleren10 July 2005

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10/10
Greatest Low Budget South African Movie!
comradcorner10 June 2002

That is one of the crappy so-called "subsidy scandal films" which plagued our film industry in the 1980s: films made for little to nothing by "filmmakers" who didn't know which end of the camera to look through and never paid their casts or crews, yet made much $$$ in government subsidies.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 27, 2022, 10:28:04 PM
Nukie (1987)

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-xmeLyRl3c#[/url])


Oy is all I can say. I was wondering if this thing would turn up and it has  :wink:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 28, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
Percival Rubens' The Demon (1979)  :buggedout: :buggedout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zML5xR-PSLk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zML5xR-PSLk)


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: claws on March 28, 2022, 01:37:29 PM

That is one of the crappy so-called "subsidy scandal films" which plagued our film industry in the 1980s: films made for little to nothing by "filmmakers" who didn't know which end of the camera to look through and never paid their casts or crews, yet made much $$$ in government subsidies.  :buggedout:

I believe they had something similar in Canada in the 1980s. Filmmakers would finance their movies through government/tax cuts. Films like Curtains (1983) or Fatal Attraction (1980). Not sure how this worked or if this is accurate but I've read filmmakers would then "hide" revenues from the canadian government. Apparently these movies weren't supposed to make money, but if they did they had to pay back the government or something like that.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 29, 2022, 09:49:37 AM
I believe they had something similar in Canada in the 1980s. Filmmakers would finance their movies through government/tax cuts. Films like Curtains (1983) or Fatal Attraction (1980). Not sure how this worked or if this is accurate but I've read filmmakers would then "hide" revenues from the canadian government. Apparently these movies weren't supposed to make money, but if they did they had to pay back the government or something like that.

That is exactly what happened in SA during the 1983 - 1990 period but our situation was worsened by the fact that the films were subpar - most were shot on 16mm film - and the producers committed massive fraud. The scheme was wound up in 1991 and our industry took a serious nose-dive.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 29, 2022, 11:50:35 AM
This is the YouTube channel for most of those subsidy films: mostly terrible things that even bad movie connoisseurs like all of us on here would barf at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-IejxKwd7E&list=PLI_6kedHHY6qQal8gOrWv8ZiBIAemfYWl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-IejxKwd7E&list=PLI_6kedHHY6qQal8gOrWv8ZiBIAemfYWl)

 :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Newt on March 29, 2022, 01:23:41 PM
I believe they had something similar in Canada in the 1980s. Filmmakers would finance their movies through government/tax cuts. Films like Curtains (1983) or Fatal Attraction (1980). Not sure how this worked or if this is accurate but I've read filmmakers would then "hide" revenues from the canadian government. Apparently these movies weren't supposed to make money, but if they did they had to pay back the government or something like that.

This?  https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films (https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films)


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 29, 2022, 01:32:16 PM
I believe they had something similar in Canada in the 1980s. Filmmakers would finance their movies through government/tax cuts. Films like Curtains (1983) or Fatal Attraction (1980). Not sure how this worked or if this is accurate but I've read filmmakers would then "hide" revenues from the canadian government. Apparently these movies weren't supposed to make money, but if they did they had to pay back the government or something like that.

This?  https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films (https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films)

If that's how those films were funded, then ours was different as in SA, people made films for a certain amount and then could approach the Department of Home Affairs for subsidies based on the number of tickets sold. This is where the fraud came in big time.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: claws on March 29, 2022, 02:01:38 PM
I believe they had something similar in Canada in the 1980s. Filmmakers would finance their movies through government/tax cuts. Films like Curtains (1983) or Fatal Attraction (1980). Not sure how this worked or if this is accurate but I've read filmmakers would then "hide" revenues from the canadian government. Apparently these movies weren't supposed to make money, but if they did they had to pay back the government or something like that.

This?  https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films (https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/tax-shelter-films)

The info I got was years ago from a person working in the film biz licensing movies mostly from canada and how difficult it was to do so. Could be he meant those tax shelter movies.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: FatFreddysCat on March 29, 2022, 03:49:11 PM
I don't know if you'd consider it "crapola," Trevor, but when I watched "Death Race 3: Inferno" recently I noticed it said it was filmed in South Africa during the end credits ...


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 29, 2022, 10:06:41 PM
I don't know if you'd consider it "crapola," Trevor, but when I watched "Death Race 3: Inferno" recently I noticed it said it was filmed in South Africa during the end credits ...

I haven't seen that one (or the second one which was also made here) but it's amazing how many films made here go straight to DVD or streaming or in the case of films like Tomb Raider and The Dark Tower, don't really find much success at the box office. Sad.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: FatFreddysCat on March 30, 2022, 07:51:23 AM
I haven't seen that one (or the second one which was also made here)

They're not Shakespeare, obviously, but they're dumb car crashin' fun.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 31, 2022, 11:38:58 AM
I haven't seen that one (or the second one which was also made here)

They're not Shakespeare, obviously, but they're dumb car crashin' fun.

I demand Shakespeare  :wink:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on March 31, 2022, 11:40:04 AM
Laser Mission (1989) with Brandon Lee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljxLG-XFsdw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljxLG-XFsdw)

Not bad but still  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on April 04, 2022, 10:26:35 AM
Rage To Kill (1988): this is a bad one, sorry.  :buggedout: :buggedout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rMqWYyccxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rMqWYyccxQ)



Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on April 16, 2022, 06:11:35 AM
Killer Force aka The Diamond Mercenaries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_psCDbq1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_psCDbq1I)

The building at 22:11 is our old archive building in Pretoria  :smile:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on May 10, 2022, 01:37:56 PM
Easy Kill (1989) with Sylvester Stallone's brudda and Diana from the TV series V  :buggedout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhWlYSMrtrw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhWlYSMrtrw)

Second Unit Photography: Marvin P. Android? Yeah, right.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: FatFreddysCat on July 18, 2022, 04:50:27 PM
I saw a hilarious direct-to-video action flick with David Hasslehoff in it this past weekend called "The Final Alliance," which apparently was shot in Johannesburg, though it was set in the U.S.


Title: Re: South African Crapola Cinema
Post by: Trevor on July 18, 2022, 10:35:15 PM
I saw a hilarious direct-to-video action flick with David Hasslehoff in it this past weekend called "The Final Alliance," which apparently was shot in Johannesburg, though it was set in the U.S.

It was shot in Johannesburg: that thing is one of the ghastly "subsidy era" films made here where fly by night filmmakers exploited loopholes in our film subsidy system. Only the producers prospered, casts and crews went largely unpaid.