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Title: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: zombie no.one on December 29, 2022, 06:49:12 PM
just watched TANGO & CASH, not sure how this film has evaded me until now, I've known about it since it came out

anyway there's a couple of Sylvester Stallone's lines that were obvious attempts to kind of break the 4th wall into 'real life'... One where a character references Rocky and he says something like "yeah well Rocky is a p***y", and another bit where a character mentions danish cuisine and he goes "I hate danish" (clearly a reference to his recent at the time marriage/divorce to Brigitte Nielsen)

VERY corny. but not breaking the 4th wall in the traditional sense of actors looking at the screen or directly acknowledging the audience.

any other examples of this in a movie?


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: claws on December 29, 2022, 07:12:20 PM
The Devil's Chair (2007) - British horror film. During parts of the film there is a voiceover, and at some point the speaker is addressing the audience directly. He says something like "..and you people currently watching The Devil's Chair on DVD."

It was strange and caught me off guard. They take drugs in the film so I guess it made sense but it was still weird.


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 29, 2022, 07:24:19 PM
Arthur Frayn
https://youtu.be/ezT7P970Bw4

There's a scene in Gremlins 2 where the gremlins get into the projection booth & start playing a '50s skin flick, & then Hulk Hogan starts shouting at the camera.....

The Tingler, the Director makes a brief intro, then when the tingler hides in a movie theater, the screen goes black, and Vincent Price shouts, "Scream! Scream for your lives!"....

Mister Sardonicus, the director pretends to engage the audience with his "Thumbs up/Thumbs down" vote cards.....


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 29, 2022, 07:30:48 PM
Yellow Submarine, The Beatles were so impressed, that they decided to tack on an ending where they chat with the audience about the adventure, & then John says there's Blue Meanies in the theater...


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Morpheus, the unwoke. on December 29, 2022, 10:02:05 PM
There was an episode of 'night gallery' called green fingers that had a main character, after being driven insane, talk to the audience directly.



Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 29, 2022, 11:11:35 PM
How I Won the War
There's a couple of scenes where John Lennon's character addresses the camera, the first to narrate why he apathetically obeys what he knows is a bad order, & the end, after his character gets killed.....
There's also a scene when the Nazi officer that Goobody's been confiding in tells one of his men he's "a civilian now", and the relieved Nazi trooper gives a cynical statement to the camera.....


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 29, 2022, 11:34:36 PM
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
King Arthur starts rough housing Dennis the commune member to get him to shut up.... Dennis starts shouting, "Help! I'm being oppressed!" then points at the camera & says, "You! You saw him oppressing me, Didn't you!"


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Trevor on December 29, 2022, 11:44:31 PM
Smokey and The Bandit:

Bandit hides his car from the police and as the car passes by the camera, he looks at the audience and grins 😎🤣🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndt_84WBxUM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndt_84WBxUM)


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: zombie no.one on December 30, 2022, 06:29:24 AM
 I don't mean traditional breaking the 4th wall, where the characters literally address and acknowledge the audience.

I meant subtler, tongue in cheek lines or things in the film that are clearly knowing references to stuff which is beyond the fictional realm of the movie

in TANGO & CASH, Sly doesn't actually look at the camera and say "I played Rocky... geddit?"


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Trevor on December 30, 2022, 08:34:04 AM
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1 has a lot of these moments, especially the Lethal Weapon, Dirty Harry and Die Hard references 😁


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 30, 2022, 12:02:45 PM
I don't mean traditional breaking the 4th wall, where the characters literally address and acknowledge the audience.

I meant subtler, tongue in cheek lines or things in the film that are clearly knowing references to stuff which is beyond the fictional realm of the movie

in TANGO & CASH, Sly doesn't actually look at the camera and say "I played Rocky... geddit?"
What about that scene at the end of Sky High (2005) where Lynda Carter says "I'm not Wonder Woman"?


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on December 30, 2022, 06:58:03 PM
I've read that there were a few of these moments in Seed Of Chucky, but I've never seen it...


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: zombie no.one on December 30, 2022, 07:24:21 PM
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1 has a lot of these moments, especially the Lethal Weapon, Dirty Harry and Die Hard references 😁

not seen it but yeah that kind of parody type film would be prime territory for this kind of thing I'm sure...

What about that scene at the end of Sky High (2005) where Lynda Carter says "I'm not Wonder Woman"?

yeah that counts. (as long as she's not saying it into the camera whilst winking ironically)


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Gabriel Knight on December 31, 2022, 08:56:06 AM
Watched THE UNBEREABLE WEIGHT OF MASSIVE TALENT last night. An entertaining movie, and they make tons of references to Nicholas Cage movies. I only wish the overall script was more interesting, basically I felt offended like Javi when Cage explained the boring kidnapping plot to him.


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Trevor on December 31, 2022, 01:42:52 PM
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1 has a lot of these moments, especially the Lethal Weapon, Dirty Harry and Die Hard references 😁

not seen it but yeah that kind of parody type film would be prime territory for this kind of thing I'm sure...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCeAPNfnhTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCeAPNfnhTE)


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on January 01, 2023, 09:24:53 PM
Still probably not what Zombie's looking for, but:
Blazing Saddles (1974)
The French Mistake scene, even as a little kid was something of a foregone conclusion, but where the sequence ends with Hedley Lamarr (Harvey Korman) hiding out in Grauman's/Mann's Chinese Theatre, and he looks up at the screen.....

I'm watching Beyond the Law (1968) while listening to a radio documentary about Hedy Lamarr that's got that nagging me...


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on January 08, 2023, 06:58:12 PM
What about that episode of 3rd Rock From The Sun, wherein William Shatner & John Lithgow make mutual reference to Nightmare at 20,000 Feet?


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: RCMerchant on January 08, 2023, 11:03:01 PM
In the HOUSE THAT DRIPPED BLOOD (1971 ), John Pertwee plays an aging horror film actor and says-

" That's what's wrong with the present day horror films. There's no realism. Not like the old ones, the great ones. Frankenstein, Phantom of the Opera, Dracula - the one with Bela Lugosi of course, not this new fellow."
He's referring to Christopher Lee, of course- who just so happens to appear in the film as well!


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: ER on January 08, 2023, 11:47:36 PM
Howard Hawks' His Girl Friday, from back in 1940.


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Gabriel Knight on January 09, 2023, 07:28:36 AM
BEING JOHN MALKOVICH breaks it in the sense that he's an actor playing himself in real life. The rest may be fictitious, but as far as we know, he's not.


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: RCMerchant on January 09, 2023, 07:38:53 AM
In BELA LUGOSI MEETS A BROOKLYN GORILLA (1952) the Jerry Lewis wannabe says to Lugosi- "Your that guy from the movies who scares little kids!"


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Morpheus, the unwoke. on January 10, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
Woody Allen breaks the wall several times during 'love abd death'.


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Trevor on January 11, 2023, 09:32:38 AM
George Lazenby in OHMSS: "This never happened to the other fella"  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: LilCerberus on January 11, 2023, 09:51:43 PM
Porky's 2: The Next Day
     The leg from A Christmas Story is the same one used in the sword fight scene during the school play, and I think the zombie was supposed to be a reference to Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things.....


Title: Re: >> when the script breaks the 4th wall?
Post by: Cult_Moody_Movies on January 19, 2023, 12:44:02 PM
 Trading Places (1983) -

Randolph Duke: We are 'commodities brokers,' William. Now, what are commodities? Commodities are agricultural products... like coffee that you had for breakfast... wheat, which is used to make bread... pork bellies, which is used to make bacon, which you might find in a 'bacon, lettuce and tomato' sandwich.

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