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Title: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 30, 2023, 10:34:36 PM
Donald Trump Indictment 

Opinions? 


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on March 30, 2023, 10:41:06 PM
He'll get fined. I'm waiting for Georgia.
That's a felony.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 30, 2023, 10:52:12 PM
pointless political stunt  :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on March 30, 2023, 10:56:42 PM
^ No. It's called justice.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2023, 03:32:41 AM
Call me when he gets jail time. Otherwise, I doubt it will change anything. His supporters will support him regardless, his opponents won't.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: indianasmith on March 31, 2023, 05:55:52 AM
This is the first, and least legally significant, criminal investigation being conducted against him.  The first drops of a rainstorm, so to speak.
You might not get wet from the first drop, but if you play outside in a storm, you'll eventually get soaked.  The man has lived his whole life in contempt of the law, and he's finally going to face some consequences for it.

LET THE RAIN FALL DOWN!

A good day for justice.

And, oh yeah - to borrow a phrase:  LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on March 31, 2023, 06:20:30 AM
Call me when he gets jail time. Otherwise, I doubt it will change anything. His supporters will support him regardless, his opponents won't.

This is true. He won't do time for the Stormy stuff. And his supporters are dwindling. When he urged them to "fight back" a couple weeks ago, with his bulls**t pics of him getting busted, about 7 people showed up to protest against it in NYC in front of Trump Towers. Many more showed up for him getting caught with his pants down!  :bouncegiggle:
He's a national joke and embaressment for most.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on March 31, 2023, 06:54:21 AM
pointless political stunt  :thumbdown:

For Trump it is. He's making a stunt out of it. Hoping to rally his buddies to his defense. That and "the election is stolen!" s**t. His whole campaign consists of him throwing a giant pity party, like some kind of pariah.
Ok. I'm done talking about that numbnut.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 31, 2023, 08:16:09 AM
The first case they brought in Manhattan is the weakest of the three pending criminal cases. Is it a misdemeanor campaign finance violation? Sure. A felony? That's a stretch, but it's possible the jury will buy it.

The problem is if he beats this one, which he has a pretty good chance to, it might weaken the rest of the cases in the public mind, bringing some non-MAGAs around to Lester's POV.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on March 31, 2023, 08:48:31 AM
^ Some of the public mind- not in a felony court in Georgia.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on March 31, 2023, 11:32:26 AM
After a week like this, the biden administration really needed a huge distraction.

Alvin Bragg & Letitia James both pretty much ran their entire campaigns on saying they would "get Trump", while crime in New York has gotten worse.

And frankly, this aint the first time the left has cheered, "we got him this time!"


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Alex on March 31, 2023, 01:48:05 PM
And that is a perfect example of why the rest of the world thinks the US is in such a bad state. Shouldn't be left vs right, should just be, did he break the law?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 31, 2023, 03:20:33 PM
And that is a perfect example of why the rest of the world thinks the US is in such a bad state. Shouldn't be left vs right, should just be, did he break the law?

Thank you.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: FatFreddysCat on March 31, 2023, 04:10:10 PM
I can't wait to see the all-caps, horribly misspelled rants he'll be posting about it on his Truth Social app over the next couple of weeks. I'm sure they'll be comedy gold.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: indianasmith on March 31, 2023, 10:06:46 PM
I can't wait to see the all-caps, horribly misspelled rants he'll be posting about it on his Truth Social app over the next couple of weeks. I'm sure they'll be comedy gold.

Yeah, he already posted that he got 'INDICATED'!!!!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: bob on April 01, 2023, 06:56:45 AM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Alex on April 01, 2023, 07:44:10 AM
Some people just put their own politics over their country. Sad, but that is the way it is.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 01, 2023, 12:08:14 PM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them

This "is" for political reasons, not to mention, a DA with no interest in the law, just an unhealthy obsession.
I honestly don't know where to start with the bidens & the clintons, I just know not to hold my breath every time more criminal activity is discovered.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: bob on April 01, 2023, 01:09:19 PM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them

This "is" for political reasons, not to mention, a DA with no interest in the law, just an unhealthy obsession.
I honestly don't know where to start with the bidens & the clintons, I just know not to hold my breath every time more criminal activity is discovered.


 :lookingup: :lookingup: :lookingup:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: lester1/2jr on April 01, 2023, 02:20:52 PM
is anyone who supports him going to not vote for him because of this? I really doubt it. He's still going to run in 2024


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 01, 2023, 03:05:48 PM
is anyone who supports him going to not vote for him because of this? I really doubt it. He's still going to run in 2024

It's early enough and the real criminal cases are pending, so we will see. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: indianasmith on April 01, 2023, 03:36:21 PM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them

This "is" for political reasons, not to mention, a DA with no interest in the law, just an unhealthy obsession.
I honestly don't know where to start with the bidens & the clintons, I just know not to hold my breath every time more criminal activity is discovered.

You know what?  Let Biden's accusers do what Trump's accusers did.

FIND EVIDENCE THAT WILL STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW.
PRESENT SAID EVIDENCE TO A GRAND JURY.
GET AN INDICTMENT.
TAKE IT TO TRIAL.

Otherwise, they need to pipe down and accept the reality that their golden I mean orange boy is a traitor and a criminal!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 01, 2023, 04:10:04 PM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them

This "is" for political reasons, not to mention, a DA with no interest in the law, just an unhealthy obsession.
I honestly don't know where to start with the bidens & the clintons, I just know not to hold my breath every time more criminal activity is discovered.

You know what?  Let Biden's accusers do what Trump's accusers did.

FIND EVIDENCE THAT WILL STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW.
PRESENT SAID EVIDENCE TO A GRAND JURY.
GET AN INDICTMENT.
TAKE IT TO TRIAL.

Otherwise, they need to pipe down and accept the reality that their golden I mean orange boy is a traitor and a criminal!
That's a crock!
James Comey made it pretty clear who the FBI worked for after hillary wiped her server & smashed the staff's cell phones.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 01, 2023, 04:23:57 PM
Ugh, all this nonsense is only going to get worse in the coming months.  :bluesad: I hope we can show restraint.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: claws on April 01, 2023, 04:57:29 PM
I hope we can show restraint.

Not. Politics brings out the ugly in people. Nobody can or will hold back.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 01, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
Ugh, all this nonsense is only going to get worse in the coming months.  :bluesad: I hope we can show restraint.
Doubt it.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: indianasmith on April 01, 2023, 05:44:12 PM
No one is above the law

Anyone saying Trump is only because charged because of politics would change their tune if Biden or Obama was charged with the same misdeeds with the same evidence against either of them

This "is" for political reasons, not to mention, a DA with no interest in the law, just an unhealthy obsession.
I honestly don't know where to start with the bidens & the clintons, I just know not to hold my breath every time more criminal activity is discovered.

You know what?  Let Biden's accusers do what Trump's accusers did.

FIND EVIDENCE THAT WILL STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW.
PRESENT SAID EVIDENCE TO A GRAND JURY.
GET AN INDICTMENT.
TAKE IT TO TRIAL.

Otherwise, they need to pipe down and accept the reality that their golden I mean orange boy is a traitor and a criminal!
That's a crock!
James Comey made it pretty clear who the FBI worked for after hillary wiped her server & smashed the staff's cell phones.

He also re-opened the investigation into "Hillary's emails" a WEEK before the election, which pushed more voters towards Trump.  That doesn't sound very biased in her favor - in fact, she was FURIOUS with the FBI over that.   Every single director of the FBI has been a Republican, appointed by a Republican. This idea that they're a liberal-run organization is another Trumpian myth.

The fact is, Hillary Clinton, love her or hate her (and I DON'T like her and didn't vote for her) is the single most investigated woman in American history.  The House Republicans grilled her for hours over Benghazi, and despite the fact that they desperately wanted to find something, ANYTHING, to recommend an indictment for, they couldn't.  She's either the greatest criminal in history or she's just not as crooked as folks think she is.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 01, 2023, 07:43:55 PM
The Benghazi hearing were a congressional hearing, not a criminal investigation, and hilary ask for & got a couple weeks off first.
The server fiasco was still dismissed by comey because he didn't think she "meant to do it".

Trump's first impeachment, congress didn't have anything to charge him with until "after" he asked about something that biden was bragging about, and there still hasn't been any new nooz about biden's illegal possession of top secret documents.

The current charges against Trump were dumped a couple times before because the evidence wasn't strong enough, and are now past the statute of limitations, and bragg's three key witnesses are a tabloid publisher, a crooked lawyer who done time & been disbarred, and a porn star who had to pay the money back.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 01, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
^ Just wait until Georgia. Blame that s**t on Hillary too.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 01, 2023, 08:22:08 PM
^ Just wait until Georgia. Blame that s**t on Hillary too.  :lookingup:
naw, that was Brian Kemp's fault


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 01, 2023, 08:25:11 PM
^ Yeah, ok.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 01, 2023, 09:32:10 PM
I will remove the thread if arguing ensues.  Please be civil.  Thank you.  :smile: :thumbup:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: chefzombie on April 02, 2023, 03:28:35 AM
frankly, i don't see what we need to argue about right now. shouldn't we wait until we see the actual charges?  :cheers:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 02, 2023, 04:44:13 PM
How I felt when I heard the news-

(https://i.imgur.com/VC0oPkz.gif) (https://lunapic.com)

-except even I can dance better than that.
It should be obvious even to the ardent Trump supporter, that he won't get the 2024 nomination. I don't think Biden should run, either. Get somebody- ANYBODY- under 70+ year old f**king man. I'm sure those old folks who run for office can hardly find their ass with both hands.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 02, 2023, 06:43:09 PM
I'm going back to my original point that the biden administration really needed the distraction....
There were several catastrophic weather events last week, all of which were eclipsed by a mass shooting in Nashville...
Biden's initial address to this shooting was to tell dry, corny jokes about how much he loved ice cream, followed by some blathering about gun control....

The day the indictments were announced, there was another catastrophic weather event, a military helicopter crash, a train wreck, and the q-anon shaman got paroled...

On Friday Biden celebrated Trans day.

And I'm still standing by my assertion that the DA has expressed an unhealthy obsession with the former president.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 02, 2023, 06:55:21 PM
 ^ Hey- I don't like Biden, either, ok? But that does not excuse Trump from being held accountable, no matter how small the offense is, for committing a crime. And using Campaign funds to pay off a porn star is the least of them.  I'm not worried that he will become President again. He's yesterday's news.
 And gun control is NOT blather. If you had a child shot by some moron with an AR-15, you might feel different. You have your toy guns. Be happy.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 02, 2023, 07:22:42 PM
What I'm saying, is that the timing here is highly suspect, and if Joe Biden says it, it "does" come out as blather, particularly if he opens an address of a tragedy with a couple minutes of really bad jokes.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 02, 2023, 07:30:12 PM
OK. Like Trump calling all Mexicans "criminals and rapists" saying Nazi's are "good people"- even having dinner with a Nazi a while back, denying the election for the last 4 years, saying he is going to start a war with Mexico? That's his not "blather"? C'mon, man. Your're smarter than that, I hope.
Biden wanted gun control. He made some stupid comments. Trrump said NOTHING.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 02, 2023, 07:41:04 PM
I don't have time to correct all is misquotes in your statement, I'll just say that Trump didn't tell jokes after people's kids were killed.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 02, 2023, 07:54:31 PM
I'm not going to debate you on this anymore. Like banging my head against a brick wall. Good luck.
And I'm sure you don't have time to correct me. Your're way too busy, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: chainsaw midget on April 02, 2023, 07:56:49 PM
I don't have time to correct all is misquotes in your statement, I'll just say that Trump didn't tell jokes after people's kids were killed.
I don't think I've ever heard Trump tell a joke.  I'm not sure he even has a sense of humor. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 02, 2023, 08:04:19 PM
I don't have time to correct all is misquotes in your statement, I'll just say that Trump didn't tell jokes after people's kids were killed.
I don't think I've ever heard Trump tell a joke.  I'm not sure he even has a sense of humor. 
Trump told jokes, like the one about hilary's server, but too many morons out there tried to say he wasn't joking.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 03, 2023, 02:57:21 AM
Hey- at least he could dance.

(https://i.imgur.com/K0wdoXb.gif) (https://lunapic.com)

Oops! Wrong dancing fascist!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 03, 2023, 03:45:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EZaTjRW.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: claws on April 03, 2023, 04:01:06 AM
Pretty much nails it  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 03, 2023, 09:55:55 PM
Pretty much nails it  :bouncegiggle:

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: indianasmith on April 04, 2023, 05:53:20 AM
If the judge does issue a gag order about the case, I think Trump is either going to go to jail for contempt or else spontaneously combust - because the one thing he CAN'T do is keep his mouth shut - about ANYTHING!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 04, 2023, 09:24:17 AM
Just hope there's no serious violence today. I'm afraid that's what Trump wants. He could have done the arraignment remotely, the way a minor but sensitive white collar case like this would normally be handled, but insisted on making a spectacle by showing up in person.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Trevor on April 04, 2023, 10:12:56 AM
Just hope there's no serious violence today. I'm afraid that's what Trump wants. He could have done the arraignment remotely, the way a minor but sensitive white collar case like this would normally be handled, but insisted on making a spectacle by showing up in person.

I hope things will be peaceful unlike what happened in 2021 here when one of our former leaders was sent to prison.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: lester1/2jr on April 04, 2023, 01:03:36 PM
I was telling a college student about The Starr Report, he couldn't believe what I was saying. Its kind of been lost to history, but thats the obvious precedent for this Trump stuff


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 04, 2023, 01:21:36 PM
Just hope there's no serious violence today. I'm afraid that's what Trump wants. He could have done the arraignment remotely, the way a minor but sensitive white collar case like this would normally be handled, but insisted on making a spectacle by showing up in person.
Methinks the notion was to place Trump in custody, & Trump is showing people he aint running away...

From what I keep hearing, there's more press than protestors & supporters....

Aaaand I just looked up at my TV, & there's been a couple more train wrecks, one in the Netherlands, & the other in Montana...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 04, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
No violence so far, thankfully.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 04, 2023, 02:10:28 PM
No violence so far, thankfully.
There was a riot I mean peaceful protest in Nashville last week, but very few mentions of it.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 04, 2023, 02:14:10 PM
No violence so far, thankfully.
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 06, 2023, 05:36:50 PM
So, leaving aside some other things I've heard about the charges, I found out Bragg was hoping to start the trial NEXT YEAR.

NOW try & tell me this aint about politics!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 06, 2023, 06:05:12 PM
So, leaving aside some other things I've heard about the charges, I found out Bragg was hoping to start the trial NEXT YEAR.

NOW try & tell me this aint about politics!

That's not that unusual, actually. Pretrial motions can easily take a year and Trump lawyers typically like to delay as much as possible. I'm following a much less contentious case that was filled in 8/22 where the judge hasn't even ruled on the pretrial motions yet. My father is a witness in a criminal case that has been going on for years and years (there was a mistrial and the whole thing had to start over).

According to this law firm, "some people wait years to actually see their felony trial date."

https://www.newyorkcriminallawyer.com/how-long-does-a-criminal-case-take-in-new-york/ (https://www.newyorkcriminallawyer.com/how-long-does-a-criminal-case-take-in-new-york/)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: RCMerchant on April 07, 2023, 09:26:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/exwYAAG.jpg) (https://lunapic.com)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Indictment
Post by: LilCerberus on April 07, 2023, 11:50:30 AM
^Stormy... She got paid $130,000 to keep quiet, & now she owes Trump $600,000!^
 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: