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Title: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 12:44:13 PM
...is up for parole.
Do You hope she gets it?


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Title: Re: Leslie Van Houhten
Post by: ER on June 02, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
No.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houhten
Post by: Alex on June 02, 2023, 12:50:03 PM
After being in prison for so long would she even know what to do on the outside? The world has changed a lot in the time she's been away.

As to whether should she be released, I guess that comes down to is she still dangerous, does she have any remorse for her crimes and so forth? I've not really ever followed the whole Manson family stuff to really know anything about her and her mental state. I think she was involved in two deaths (three including the baby)? My guy feeling is let her die inside, but as I said I only have a limited knowledge of the whole case.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houhten
Post by: ER on June 02, 2023, 12:54:47 PM
After being in prison for so long would she even know what to do on the outside? The world has changed a lot in the time she's been away.

As to whether should she be released, I guess that comes down to is she still dangerous, does she have any remorse for her crimes and so forth? I've not really ever followed the whole Manson family stuff to really know anything about her and her mental state. I think she was involved in two deaths (three including the baby)? My guy feeling is let her die inside, but as I said I only have a limited knowledge of the whole case.

I have sympathy for criminals, maybe more than I should, and there's tragedy in her wasting her life and missing out on so much, but I think a person can do something so horrendous she should never again have freedom. Her crimes were atrocities, above all letting a baby die like she did when he could have been spared. Butchering people? There's nothing but sadness and horror and grief in her actions. No, let her die behind bars.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 01:10:25 PM
^ Crimes? As in more than one?  She was not involved in the Sharon Tate killings. Not even there.
She killed Rosemary LaBianca. 1 person. She was 19. She was doing acid 24/7. She's very sorry. She hates what she did, and renouced Charlie soon after going to prison. Not like most of the Manson crew. She's 74 years old.
 We send out soldiers to kill people for stupid s**t everyday. And they get f**king medals.
Let the old woman go.

The Tate murder was commited by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patrica Krenwinkle, and were drove there by Linda Kasabian. Who was never even charged. She turned states evidence.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: Rev. Powell on June 02, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
Sure. She's no threat to society and she's already been punished severely. Lots of murderers get paroled in their old age. The quality of mercy is not strained and so on and so forth.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 02:02:43 PM
^ My brother-in-law Leroy is out. He shot a guy in the back with a 12 gauge shotgun. In an apartment. Kids live in that building. He did 25 years. And he IS insane! I know he talks s**t about being a gun control advocate- but I know that's bulls**t. I don't think he'll kill anyone else, but I won't bet money on it. He's nuttier than a fruitcake.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: Trevor on June 02, 2023, 02:08:04 PM
This might shock people but she should die in prison: no leniency for murderers in my opinion. Patricia Krenwinkle should also never be set free.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: ER on June 02, 2023, 02:12:36 PM
^ Crimes? As in more than one?  She was not involved in the Sharon Tate killings. Not even there.
She killed Rosemary LaBianca. 1 person. She was 19. She was doing acid 24/7. She's very sorry. She hates what she did, and renouced Charlie soon after going to prison. Not like most of the Manson crew. She's 74 years old.
 We send out soldiers to kill people for stupid s**t everyday. And they get f**king medals.
Let the old woman go.

The Tate murder was commited by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patrica Krenwinkle, and were drove there by Linda Kasabian. Who was never even charged. She turned states evidence.

Oh, s**t did I get my murderous hippies mixed up? Ah, f**k her anyway.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 02:37:19 PM
This might shock people but she should die in prison: no leniency for murderers in my opinion. Patricia Krenwinkle should also never be set free.

Patty killed a number of people. She helped kill 8 people.
Leslie held down one while Patty stabbed her. Rosemary Labianca. Her and her husband were at home. Charlie sat in the car. She had only been with Manson for about a month. It scared the f**k out of her. Leslie never stabbed anyone. She was a kid. She was 17. Manson's f**king crazy old ass used her. That f**ker shoulda got hung.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 02:53:20 PM
^ Crimes? As in more than one?  She was not involved in the Sharon Tate killings. Not even there.
She killed Rosemary LaBianca. 1 person. She was 19. She was doing acid 24/7. She's very sorry. She hates what she did, and renouced Charlie soon after going to prison. Not like most of the Manson crew. She's 74 years old.
 We send out soldiers to kill people for stupid s**t everyday. And they get f**king medals.
Let the old woman go.

The Tate murder was commited by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patrica Krenwinkle, and were drove there by Linda Kasabian. Who was never even charged. She turned states evidence.

Oh, s**t did I get my murderous hippies mixed up? Ah, f**k her anyway.

Yet it's ok for rich people in office to murder people every day? It's evil if this guy does it- but it's ok if they do it. C'mon. Poor folks who commit murder SHOULD die! But that should swing both ways.
You're  very glib.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: Trevor on June 02, 2023, 03:09:27 PM
This might shock people but she should die in prison: no leniency for murderers in my opinion. Patricia Krenwinkle should also never be set free.

Patty killed a number of people. She helped kill 8 people.
Leslie held down one while Patty stabbed her. Rosemary Labianca. Her and her husband were at home. Charlie sat in the car. She had only been with Manson for about a month. It scared the f**k out of her. Leslie never stabbed anyone. She was a kid. She was 17. Manson's f**king crazy old ass used her. That f**ker shoulda got hung.

 :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2023, 09:09:27 PM
Yet Donald Trump tried to overthrow the goverment and is still free. f**king 2 faced justice. Manson is blamed for the murders- and I think he should be. But Donald Trump is not held accountable for his attempt to overthrow the goverment. Gimme a f**king break. Your heros are f**king killers too.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: claws on June 03, 2023, 01:40:51 AM
Leslie never stabbed anyone.

how does one sever a spine without stabbing?

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Van Houten aggressively implicated herself in inflicting wounds while the victim was living, and severely wounding the victim, severing her spine, which might have been fatal by itself.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 03, 2023, 09:29:35 AM
Claws- she held down Rosemary LaBianca while Susan Atkins stabbed her. She didn't stab anyone. Do your homework. Donald Trump didn't kill anyone either- he just sent his lackeys to the capitol, and people died. He's still walking free. What she did was wrong. Very wrong. Rich folks can kill and go scot free. Poor folks go to prison, and are never forgiven.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: claws on June 03, 2023, 09:42:17 AM
Claws- she held down Rosemary LaBianca while Susan Atkins stabbed her. She didn't stab anyone. Do your homework.

I did and

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Van Houten aggressively implicated herself in inflicting wounds while the victim was living, and severely wounding the victim, severing her spine, which might have been fatal by itself.

now what?


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 03, 2023, 02:20:40 PM
BELA, you brought up Leslie Van Houten, drop trump.   :thumbup:  Uh, like this:  :thumbdown:

What's interesting to me is that I agree with everyone's remark.   Let her out, keep her in.

It is worth pointing out that Manson himself was not a participant at either murder site, right?   In that context, Manson "didn't stab anyone" too!  

I do think that if I had been that young in that circumstance, I would have run away, not participated.  Real evil is forever.  

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The Tate murder was commited by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patrica Krenwinkle, and were drove there by Linda Kasabian. Who was never even charged. She turned states evidence.

I believe Linda Kasabian was the only Family "member" who had a VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE!!!  


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 03, 2023, 04:01:51 PM
Yes- Linda could legally drive.
I guess I'm done here. It's starting to p**s me off- and that's no good.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 03, 2023, 04:23:16 PM
Yes- Linda could legally drive.
I guess I'm done here. It's starting to p**s me off- and that's no good.

Why are you angry?


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 03, 2023, 04:36:01 PM
I dunno. I'm weird like that.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: chefzombie on June 05, 2023, 03:36:00 AM
Claws- she held down Rosemary LaBianca while Susan Atkins stabbed her. She didn't stab anyone. Do your homework. Donald Trump didn't kill anyone either- he just sent his lackeys to the capitol, and people died. He's still walking free. What she did was wrong. Very wrong. Rich folks can kill and go scot free. Poor folks go to prison, and are never forgiven.

bulls**t. she admitted to stabbing rosemary over a dozen times. she should die in jail.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 05, 2023, 06:12:01 PM
Yeah- I was wrong. I'm gettin' old. My memory ain't what it used to be.
It's called brain dead.
I still think they should let her go. It would be the Christain thing to do. And I'm an Atheist.
I respect all you folks opinions. I hope I didn't p**s too many people off.
I'm sure I creeped you all out with my creepy Manson Girl obsession.

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Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: ER on June 05, 2023, 07:17:42 PM
Yeah- I was wrong. I'm gettin' old. My memory ain't what it used to be.
It's called brain dead.
I still think they should let her go. It would be the Christain thing to do. And I'm an Atheist.
I respect all you folks opinions. I hope I didn't p**s too many people off.
I'm sure I creeped you all out with my creepy Manson Girl obsession.

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Nothing wrong with feeling compassion, mate.


Title: Re: Leslie Van Houten
Post by: RCMerchant on June 05, 2023, 07:22:37 PM
^ I think I was p**sing people off. I sure hope people don't judge what I did at 17...well...no. I never killed anyone. But she was 17 on acid! Wait so was I. No kind of drugs would have made me do that crazy s**t! And I used to sell blotter acid! Eat it too! Not for long. Nobody can take acid and stay sane for too long.
Maybe that's what f**ked her up?
Is that an excuse? I dunno. In my case- when I f**k up when I was drunk, I own up to it.
But she was a kid. Doing more acid than I ever thought off. She's 74. She hates herself. Let her die in peace.