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Good Movies / Re: Recent Viewings, Part 2
Last post by Trevor - Today at 06:11:21 AMQuote from: M.10rda on Today at 04:49:44 AMContrarian that I am, I like SHOCK TREATMENT just as much as ROCKY HORROR (a lot). Granted it is another hermetically sealed cinematic universe full of its own signs and signifiers that Richard O'Brien and Jim Sharman understood and were indifferent about viewers understanding. My autistic teenage brain was fascinated, deeply engrossed, even though I was surrounded with peers who insisted ROCKY HORROR was terrible (if entertaining). I remain fascinated and engrossed. These are entire features set in the Red Room of the Black Lodge, where standard logic and linguistics fail to suffice and one just has to make correlative connections to keep grooving.
About 5-ish years ago I watched THE NIGHT, THE PROWLER - another Sharman feature not in the ROCKY-verse. It is an arthouse drama, not a camp musical, but narratively it plays by the same rules as RHPS and ST. So Sharman didn't make these films accidentally - this is how he wanted to make 'em.
Also, about two years ago, Richard O'Brien finally disclosed in an interview something I'd always suspected yet couldn't convince anyone else of - that Frank N. Furter was in fact the antagonist, based on his conservative, repressive, hypocritical, control-freak mother. That tiny key alone helps unlock some of the mysteries of these films... certainly it puts Riff Raff's nervous breakdown ("They didn't like me - they never liked me!") in a new light.
ROCKY HORROR was banned here after one person complained to the apartheid censor board 😔
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Good Movies / Re: Recent Viewings, Part 2
Last post by M.10rda - Today at 04:49:44 AMContrarian that I am, I like SHOCK TREATMENT just as much as ROCKY HORROR (a lot). Granted it is another hermetically sealed cinematic universe full of its own signs and signifiers that Richard O'Brien and Jim Sharman understood and were indifferent about viewers understanding. My autistic teenage brain was fascinated, deeply engrossed, even though I was surrounded with peers who insisted ROCKY HORROR was terrible (if entertaining). I remain fascinated and engrossed. These are entire features set in the Red Room of the Black Lodge, where standard logic and linguistics fail to suffice and one just has to make correlative connections to keep grooving.
About 5-ish years ago I watched THE NIGHT, THE PROWLER - another Sharman feature not in the ROCKY-verse. It is an arthouse drama, not a camp musical, but narratively it plays by the same rules as RHPS and ST. So Sharman didn't make these films accidentally - this is how he wanted to make 'em.
Also, about two years ago, Richard O'Brien finally disclosed in an interview something I'd always suspected yet couldn't convince anyone else of - that Frank N. Furter was in fact the antagonist, based on his conservative, repressive, hypocritical, control-freak mother. That tiny key alone helps unlock some of the mysteries of these films... certainly it puts Riff Raff's nervous breakdown ("They didn't like me - they never liked me!") in a new light.
About 5-ish years ago I watched THE NIGHT, THE PROWLER - another Sharman feature not in the ROCKY-verse. It is an arthouse drama, not a camp musical, but narratively it plays by the same rules as RHPS and ST. So Sharman didn't make these films accidentally - this is how he wanted to make 'em.
Also, about two years ago, Richard O'Brien finally disclosed in an interview something I'd always suspected yet couldn't convince anyone else of - that Frank N. Furter was in fact the antagonist, based on his conservative, repressive, hypocritical, control-freak mother. That tiny key alone helps unlock some of the mysteries of these films... certainly it puts Riff Raff's nervous breakdown ("They didn't like me - they never liked me!") in a new light.
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by M.10rda - Today at 04:34:58 AMHammer movies became more entertaining as they entered the 70s and started incorporating disco music and gore and more nudity. 
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by zombie no.one - Today at 02:52:01 AMQuote from: Dr. Whom on Today at 01:55:09 AMQuote from: M.10rda on November 09, 2025, 02:54:36 PMTHE GORGON (1964):
The Thing About Hammer Films (...I type smugly, having now seen 15 or 20 or some number in my lifetime, though surely not all of them) is they tend to not actually be that good, or fun.
I must say I never quite got what all the fuss about Hammer movies was about. They have their moments, certainly, but I never found them all that exciting. The only one I really liked was Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires, which is way ahead of its time.
agreed re: most of them...
DRACULA AD1972 is a funky campfest. (or a campy funkfest?). that one's pretty entertaining anyway, imo
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by Dr. Whom - Today at 01:55:09 AMQuote from: M.10rda on November 09, 2025, 02:54:36 PMTHE GORGON (1964):
The Thing About Hammer Films (...I type smugly, having now seen 15 or 20 or some number in my lifetime, though surely not all of them) is they tend to not actually be that good, or fun.
I must say I never quite got what all the fuss about Hammer movies was about. They have their moments, certainly, but I never found them all that exciting. The only one I really liked was Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires, which is way ahead of its time.
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by LilCerberus - November 09, 2025, 10:18:36 PMTonight's Stinker
The American Astronaut (2001)
https://youtu.be/aWY3NGCnZao?si=GUeAcbRAc7FIwdNT
Or at https://youtu.be/COxhvqWWxSU?si=n-PbI494lqm96rue
A space fairing horse trader delivers a cat to a bar at an asteroid.... In return, he's given a suitcase with the DNA of a "real live girl", which he later learns he must deliver to Jupiter (an all male colony), in exchange for a sixteen year old boy, who he must deliver to Venus (an all female colony), and then he'll be set for life....
Things take a turn when it's revealed the narrator of this story is really the murderous Professor Hess, who's in a mean mood after nobody remembers his birthday.....
Artsy black & white, with lots of insider jokes and impromptu musical numbers from indy artists one might expect from a Penelope Spheeris film....
Pretty weird, but watchable.........
The American Astronaut (2001)
https://youtu.be/aWY3NGCnZao?si=GUeAcbRAc7FIwdNT
Or at https://youtu.be/COxhvqWWxSU?si=n-PbI494lqm96rue
A space fairing horse trader delivers a cat to a bar at an asteroid.... In return, he's given a suitcase with the DNA of a "real live girl", which he later learns he must deliver to Jupiter (an all male colony), in exchange for a sixteen year old boy, who he must deliver to Venus (an all female colony), and then he'll be set for life....
Things take a turn when it's revealed the narrator of this story is really the murderous Professor Hess, who's in a mean mood after nobody remembers his birthday.....
Artsy black & white, with lots of insider jokes and impromptu musical numbers from indy artists one might expect from a Penelope Spheeris film....
Pretty weird, but watchable.........
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Good Movies / Re: Recent Viewings, Part 2
Last post by FatFreddysCat - November 09, 2025, 07:35:49 PM"Shock Treatment" (1981)
In this ill-fated pseudo-sequel to "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," unhappy newlyweds Brad and Janet (the heroes of RHPS) go on a game show, which ends with Brad being institutionalized and Janet being groomed to become a TV superstar by an unscrupulous sponsor. Yes, it's just as weird as it sounds. The story is a confused muddle, but some of the songs are kinda rockin' in that early 80s kind of way and overall the whole movie feels like a new-wave music video stretched out to feature length. "Rocky Horror" enthusiasts may dig it, but the average viewer can safely steer clear.
"Cannonball Run II" (1983)
Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise saddle up for another cross country road race with a $1 million dollar prize, causing slap stick mayhem and frequent automotive destruction. Like the original, the movie is dumb as dirt, but the cast is amazing (Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Charles Nelson Reilly, Shirley MacLaine, Catherine Bach, Tony Danza, Jackie Chan, etc., etc.) and they all seem to be having a good time. Entertainingly mindless, car crashin' time wastin' fun.
In this ill-fated pseudo-sequel to "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," unhappy newlyweds Brad and Janet (the heroes of RHPS) go on a game show, which ends with Brad being institutionalized and Janet being groomed to become a TV superstar by an unscrupulous sponsor. Yes, it's just as weird as it sounds. The story is a confused muddle, but some of the songs are kinda rockin' in that early 80s kind of way and overall the whole movie feels like a new-wave music video stretched out to feature length. "Rocky Horror" enthusiasts may dig it, but the average viewer can safely steer clear.
"Cannonball Run II" (1983)
Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise saddle up for another cross country road race with a $1 million dollar prize, causing slap stick mayhem and frequent automotive destruction. Like the original, the movie is dumb as dirt, but the cast is amazing (Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Charles Nelson Reilly, Shirley MacLaine, Catherine Bach, Tony Danza, Jackie Chan, etc., etc.) and they all seem to be having a good time. Entertainingly mindless, car crashin' time wastin' fun.
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Bad Movies / Re: Generate Movie Poster with...
Last post by claws - November 09, 2025, 04:50:55 PMAlternative version, since copilot messed up my original prompt. Sigh.
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by zombie no.one - November 09, 2025, 03:09:42 PM^^ I always see this on the shelf at my local HMV and although I'm mildly tempted, to date there has always been something else more tempting to buy... doesn't surprise me that it's a slowie
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by M.10rda - November 09, 2025, 02:54:36 PMTHE GORGON (1964):
The Thing About Hammer Films (...I type smugly, having now seen 15 or 20 or some number in my lifetime, though surely not all of them) is they tend to not actually be that good, or fun. But many of them star two iconic actors who often give amusing performances, and perhaps more importantly they're British, so on this side of the Atlantic anyways everyone automatically assumes these films are very serious and intelligent, like we do w/ Merchant-Ivory films and "Downton Abbey" et cetera. Anyway, THE GORGON is similarly slow, dry, and ultimately technically inept, though with a handful of amusements sprinkled throughout.
Peter Cushing stars as a shady head doctor at a shady medical institution a staple character and setting of the Hammer franchise. I often think Cushing looks bored in Hammer flicks or irritated at needing to partake in such frivolity. He appears irritated all the time in this role, too, but I think it's a legitimate character choice, and he holds one's interest through long dull stretches. (He also weirdly exudes a Robert Englund quality here.) Christopher Lee is first-billed above Cushing for a change, though he has less screen time; he gets a hilarious gray wig and bushy moustache that makes him look like Professor Abronsius from FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS. Nevertheless Lee always looks cool in all senses of the word. Acting was his second career after a life in military intelligence, and I guess after you've had to confront and slay actual monsters (like Nazis) snake-headed women won't even make you blink. Once Lee joins the action and particularly when he and Cushing are onscreen together, the film picks up.
A desolate old mansion near Cushing's hospital is occupied by the eponymous mythological harridan. The screenplay identifies her as "Megara", who it claims was one of the two sisters of Medusa, with "Persephone". Okay, leaving Persephone out of this entirely for a moment...
...According to Edith Hamilton et al, Medusa had two sisters named Euryale and Sthenos............. I have no idea who this "Megara" person is, but I guess it's emblematic of the amount of effort the writer invested in this gig. Anyway, "Megara" looks pretty much like Medusa looks in CLASH OF THE TITANS, and as long as she is only glimpsed in dimly lit or softly focused wide shots, she's scary. (I admit I am a sucker for the whole "Medusa in the shield" motif in horror literature.) Unfortunately Terrence Fisher decided he had to show her in close-ups at the climax, which features larfably bad FX that close the film on a low note. Say what you will about COTH, but Harryhausen's Medusa actually looks scary even when you do see her full-on.
2.5/5
Madame and I have a rubber gorgon head-dress on our coatrack that looks more realistic than the hair on this gorgon.
The Thing About Hammer Films (...I type smugly, having now seen 15 or 20 or some number in my lifetime, though surely not all of them) is they tend to not actually be that good, or fun. But many of them star two iconic actors who often give amusing performances, and perhaps more importantly they're British, so on this side of the Atlantic anyways everyone automatically assumes these films are very serious and intelligent, like we do w/ Merchant-Ivory films and "Downton Abbey" et cetera. Anyway, THE GORGON is similarly slow, dry, and ultimately technically inept, though with a handful of amusements sprinkled throughout.
Peter Cushing stars as a shady head doctor at a shady medical institution a staple character and setting of the Hammer franchise. I often think Cushing looks bored in Hammer flicks or irritated at needing to partake in such frivolity. He appears irritated all the time in this role, too, but I think it's a legitimate character choice, and he holds one's interest through long dull stretches. (He also weirdly exudes a Robert Englund quality here.) Christopher Lee is first-billed above Cushing for a change, though he has less screen time; he gets a hilarious gray wig and bushy moustache that makes him look like Professor Abronsius from FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS. Nevertheless Lee always looks cool in all senses of the word. Acting was his second career after a life in military intelligence, and I guess after you've had to confront and slay actual monsters (like Nazis) snake-headed women won't even make you blink. Once Lee joins the action and particularly when he and Cushing are onscreen together, the film picks up.
A desolate old mansion near Cushing's hospital is occupied by the eponymous mythological harridan. The screenplay identifies her as "Megara", who it claims was one of the two sisters of Medusa, with "Persephone". Okay, leaving Persephone out of this entirely for a moment...
...According to Edith Hamilton et al, Medusa had two sisters named Euryale and Sthenos............. I have no idea who this "Megara" person is, but I guess it's emblematic of the amount of effort the writer invested in this gig. Anyway, "Megara" looks pretty much like Medusa looks in CLASH OF THE TITANS, and as long as she is only glimpsed in dimly lit or softly focused wide shots, she's scary. (I admit I am a sucker for the whole "Medusa in the shield" motif in horror literature.) Unfortunately Terrence Fisher decided he had to show her in close-ups at the climax, which features larfably bad FX that close the film on a low note. Say what you will about COTH, but Harryhausen's Medusa actually looks scary even when you do see her full-on. 2.5/5
Madame and I have a rubber gorgon head-dress on our coatrack that looks more realistic than the hair on this gorgon.