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Good Movies / Re: Movie Anniversaries in 202...
Last post by claws - Today at 04:41:07 AM2001 (25th Anniversary)
### TIER S: THE MASTERPIECES ###
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - A monumental achievement that set a new gold standard for fantasy filmmaking.
2. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch's surrealist puzzle remains one of the most haunting and debated masterpieces of the century.
3. Monsters, Inc. - Pixar at its most imaginative, blending high-concept world-building with genuine emotional stakes.
4. Shrek - An irreverent masterpiece that changed the landscape of animation by blending fairy-tale tropes with adult wit.
5. The Others - A chilling, atmospheric ghost story that relies on impeccable suspense rather than jump scares.
6. Donnie Darko - The ultimate cult classic that perfectly captures teenage alienation through a time-bending sci-fi lens.
7. A.I. Artificial Intelligence - A deeply philosophical and visually breathtaking collaboration between the spirits of Kubrick and Spielberg.
8. The Royal Tenenbaums - Wes Anderson's signature aesthetic and dry wit peaked in this story of a dysfunctional family of geniuses.
### TIER A: TOP-TIER CINEMA ###
9. A Beautiful Mind - A powerful, Oscar-winning portrayal of genius and the harrowing reality of mental illness.
10. Black Hawk Down - One of the most visceral and technically impressive depictions of modern combat ever put to film.
11. The Devil's Backbone - Guillermo del Toro's gothic ghost story is both terrifyingly eerie and deeply poetic.
12. Ghost World - A sharp, cynical, and surprisingly heartfelt look at the awkward transition from adolescence to adulthood.
13. Pulse (Kairo) - A profound and deeply unsettling Japanese horror film about loneliness in the digital age.
14. The Man Who Wasn't There - The Coen Brothers deliver a gorgeous, noir-soaked homage to 1940s crime cinema.
15. Moulin Rouge! - A dizzying, maximalist jukebox musical that pulses with pure romantic energy and visual flair.
### TIER B: GREAT ENTERTAINMENT ###
16. Legally Blonde - An iconic comedy that succeeded entirely on the back of Reese Witherspoon's undeniable charm.
17. Zoolander - An absurdly quotable comedy that lampoons the fashion industry with delightful, intentional stupidity.
18. Frailty - Bill Paxton's directorial debut is a taut, disturbing, and highly effective religious psychological thriller.
19. Session 9 - A slow-burn psychological horror that makes incredible use of its actual decaying asylum location.
20. Brotherhood of the Wolf - A wild, genre-bending mix of period drama, martial arts, and creature-feature horror.
21. The Fast and the Furious - The humble, street-racing origin of what would eventually become a global action juggernaut.
22. Super Troopers - A cult-favorite comedy that remains a gold standard for "hangout" movies and quotable gags.
23. Joy Ride - A surprisingly tight and effective road-trip thriller that keeps the tension high from start to finish.
24. Rush Hour 2 - A rare sequel that captures the chemistry of its leads even better than the original film.
25. Dagon - A grizzly and atmospheric Lovecraftian horror that captures cosmic dread better than most big-budget attempts.
### TIER C: SOLID / CULT INTEREST ###
26. Jeepers Creepers - Though its shift into a supernatural creature feature is jarring, the Creeper remains one of the era's most memorable horror designs.
27. Blow - Johnny Depp gives a strong performance, though the film follows a fairly standard "rise and fall" crime path.
28. The Mummy Returns - It is messy and the CGI hasn't aged well, but the adventurous spirit remains charmingly fun.
29. Hannibal - A stylish but somewhat indulgent sequel that can't quite live up to the prestige of Silence of the Lambs.
30. From Hell - A visually striking Jack the Ripper story that prioritizes gothic style over narrative substance.
31. American Pie 2 - A successful sequel that doubles down on the "gross-out" humor of the first film with mixed results.
32. Jurassic Park III - It's a lean, mean monster movie that works as a popcorn flick but lacks the wonder of the original.
33. Swordfish - A quintessential early-2000s action film full of hackers, explosions, and high-gloss aesthetics.
34. The Hole - A twisty British thriller that manages to keep the audience guessing until the very end.
35. Not Another Teen Movie - A surprisingly clever parody that successfully skewered every cliché of the 90s teen genre.
36. Thir13en Ghosts - A fun, high-concept haunted house movie with some of the best practical production design in horror.
37. Scary Movie 2 - It is hit-or-miss, but the "strong hand" sequence remains a piece of early-2000s comedy history.
38. Shallow Hal - A well-meaning but often clumsy attempt at a romantic comedy about looking past physical appearance.
39. Vidocq - A visually experimental French mystery that was a pioneer in early all-digital cinematography.
40. Birthday Girl - A quirky thriller that works mostly because of the unexpected chemistry between Kidman and Chaplin.
### TIER D: THE WEAKER SIDE ###
41. Planet of the Apes - A visually impressive but narratively hollow remake that lacked the philosophical soul of the original.
42. Jason X - A ridiculous "slasher in space" concept that is best enjoyed as a campy, self-aware comedy.
43. The Glass House - A standard-issue teen thriller that follows a predictable path without many surprises.
44. Don't Say a Word - A professional but ultimately forgettable kidnapping thriller that feels like a TV movie with a budget.
45. Knockaround Guys - A mob drama with a great cast that unfortunately feels a bit too derivative of better films.
46. Bones - Snoop Dogg brings some charisma to this stylish but uneven urban horror flick.
47. Sugar & Spice - A bubbly, dark comedy about cheerleaders-turned-robbers that is lightweight and easily forgotten.
48. Valentine - A quintessential early-2000s slasher that focuses more on its attractive cast than actual scares.
49. The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra - A very specific, low-budget spoof of 1950s sci-fi that is funny but an acquired taste.
50. Sleepless - A late-career Giallo from Dario Argento that has flashes of visual brilliance but feels dated.
### TIER F: SKIP THESE ###
51. Ghosts of Mars - John Carpenter's weakest effort, though it still retains a tiny bit of his signature B-movie charm.
52. The Forsaken - A bland, "cool guy" road-trip vampire movie that failed to leave any lasting impression.
53. Wendigo - A low-budget indie horror that has interesting ideas but suffers from poor pacing and execution.
54. She Creature - A small-scale creature feature that is mostly notable for its practical effects and little else.
55. The Attic Expeditions - A confusing and low-budget psychological thriller that struggles to land its various twists.
56. Tremors 3: Back to Perfection - A direct-to-video sequel that only die-hard fans of the Graboids will find value in.
57. Mimic 2 - A direct-to-video sequel that lacks all the atmosphere and tension of Guillermo del Toro's original.
58. Soulkeeper - A chaotic and messy fantasy-horror film that feels like a dated relic of its time.
59. Children of the Corn: Revelation - A late-stage sequel that struggles to find any new life in an already exhausted franchise.
60. Wishmaster 3: Beyond the Gates of Hell - A cheap-feeling sequel that loses the fun and menace of the original Djinn.
### TIER S: THE MASTERPIECES ###
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - A monumental achievement that set a new gold standard for fantasy filmmaking.
2. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch's surrealist puzzle remains one of the most haunting and debated masterpieces of the century.
3. Monsters, Inc. - Pixar at its most imaginative, blending high-concept world-building with genuine emotional stakes.
4. Shrek - An irreverent masterpiece that changed the landscape of animation by blending fairy-tale tropes with adult wit.
5. The Others - A chilling, atmospheric ghost story that relies on impeccable suspense rather than jump scares.
6. Donnie Darko - The ultimate cult classic that perfectly captures teenage alienation through a time-bending sci-fi lens.
7. A.I. Artificial Intelligence - A deeply philosophical and visually breathtaking collaboration between the spirits of Kubrick and Spielberg.
8. The Royal Tenenbaums - Wes Anderson's signature aesthetic and dry wit peaked in this story of a dysfunctional family of geniuses.
### TIER A: TOP-TIER CINEMA ###
9. A Beautiful Mind - A powerful, Oscar-winning portrayal of genius and the harrowing reality of mental illness.
10. Black Hawk Down - One of the most visceral and technically impressive depictions of modern combat ever put to film.
11. The Devil's Backbone - Guillermo del Toro's gothic ghost story is both terrifyingly eerie and deeply poetic.
12. Ghost World - A sharp, cynical, and surprisingly heartfelt look at the awkward transition from adolescence to adulthood.
13. Pulse (Kairo) - A profound and deeply unsettling Japanese horror film about loneliness in the digital age.
14. The Man Who Wasn't There - The Coen Brothers deliver a gorgeous, noir-soaked homage to 1940s crime cinema.
15. Moulin Rouge! - A dizzying, maximalist jukebox musical that pulses with pure romantic energy and visual flair.
### TIER B: GREAT ENTERTAINMENT ###
16. Legally Blonde - An iconic comedy that succeeded entirely on the back of Reese Witherspoon's undeniable charm.
17. Zoolander - An absurdly quotable comedy that lampoons the fashion industry with delightful, intentional stupidity.
18. Frailty - Bill Paxton's directorial debut is a taut, disturbing, and highly effective religious psychological thriller.
19. Session 9 - A slow-burn psychological horror that makes incredible use of its actual decaying asylum location.
20. Brotherhood of the Wolf - A wild, genre-bending mix of period drama, martial arts, and creature-feature horror.
21. The Fast and the Furious - The humble, street-racing origin of what would eventually become a global action juggernaut.
22. Super Troopers - A cult-favorite comedy that remains a gold standard for "hangout" movies and quotable gags.
23. Joy Ride - A surprisingly tight and effective road-trip thriller that keeps the tension high from start to finish.
24. Rush Hour 2 - A rare sequel that captures the chemistry of its leads even better than the original film.
25. Dagon - A grizzly and atmospheric Lovecraftian horror that captures cosmic dread better than most big-budget attempts.
### TIER C: SOLID / CULT INTEREST ###
26. Jeepers Creepers - Though its shift into a supernatural creature feature is jarring, the Creeper remains one of the era's most memorable horror designs.
27. Blow - Johnny Depp gives a strong performance, though the film follows a fairly standard "rise and fall" crime path.
28. The Mummy Returns - It is messy and the CGI hasn't aged well, but the adventurous spirit remains charmingly fun.
29. Hannibal - A stylish but somewhat indulgent sequel that can't quite live up to the prestige of Silence of the Lambs.
30. From Hell - A visually striking Jack the Ripper story that prioritizes gothic style over narrative substance.
31. American Pie 2 - A successful sequel that doubles down on the "gross-out" humor of the first film with mixed results.
32. Jurassic Park III - It's a lean, mean monster movie that works as a popcorn flick but lacks the wonder of the original.
33. Swordfish - A quintessential early-2000s action film full of hackers, explosions, and high-gloss aesthetics.
34. The Hole - A twisty British thriller that manages to keep the audience guessing until the very end.
35. Not Another Teen Movie - A surprisingly clever parody that successfully skewered every cliché of the 90s teen genre.
36. Thir13en Ghosts - A fun, high-concept haunted house movie with some of the best practical production design in horror.
37. Scary Movie 2 - It is hit-or-miss, but the "strong hand" sequence remains a piece of early-2000s comedy history.
38. Shallow Hal - A well-meaning but often clumsy attempt at a romantic comedy about looking past physical appearance.
39. Vidocq - A visually experimental French mystery that was a pioneer in early all-digital cinematography.
40. Birthday Girl - A quirky thriller that works mostly because of the unexpected chemistry between Kidman and Chaplin.
### TIER D: THE WEAKER SIDE ###
41. Planet of the Apes - A visually impressive but narratively hollow remake that lacked the philosophical soul of the original.
42. Jason X - A ridiculous "slasher in space" concept that is best enjoyed as a campy, self-aware comedy.
43. The Glass House - A standard-issue teen thriller that follows a predictable path without many surprises.
44. Don't Say a Word - A professional but ultimately forgettable kidnapping thriller that feels like a TV movie with a budget.
45. Knockaround Guys - A mob drama with a great cast that unfortunately feels a bit too derivative of better films.
46. Bones - Snoop Dogg brings some charisma to this stylish but uneven urban horror flick.
47. Sugar & Spice - A bubbly, dark comedy about cheerleaders-turned-robbers that is lightweight and easily forgotten.
48. Valentine - A quintessential early-2000s slasher that focuses more on its attractive cast than actual scares.
49. The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra - A very specific, low-budget spoof of 1950s sci-fi that is funny but an acquired taste.
50. Sleepless - A late-career Giallo from Dario Argento that has flashes of visual brilliance but feels dated.
### TIER F: SKIP THESE ###
51. Ghosts of Mars - John Carpenter's weakest effort, though it still retains a tiny bit of his signature B-movie charm.
52. The Forsaken - A bland, "cool guy" road-trip vampire movie that failed to leave any lasting impression.
53. Wendigo - A low-budget indie horror that has interesting ideas but suffers from poor pacing and execution.
54. She Creature - A small-scale creature feature that is mostly notable for its practical effects and little else.
55. The Attic Expeditions - A confusing and low-budget psychological thriller that struggles to land its various twists.
56. Tremors 3: Back to Perfection - A direct-to-video sequel that only die-hard fans of the Graboids will find value in.
57. Mimic 2 - A direct-to-video sequel that lacks all the atmosphere and tension of Guillermo del Toro's original.
58. Soulkeeper - A chaotic and messy fantasy-horror film that feels like a dated relic of its time.
59. Children of the Corn: Revelation - A late-stage sequel that struggles to find any new life in an already exhausted franchise.
60. Wishmaster 3: Beyond the Gates of Hell - A cheap-feeling sequel that loses the fun and menace of the original Djinn.
#22
Entertainment / Re: What is your YouTube of ...
Last post by zombie no.one - Today at 04:31:20 AMQuote from: lester1/2jr on January 07, 2026, 12:20:07 PMMy new skate vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga9b73ib_eo
I have this memory of attempting to learn to skate in an old bus station at about 2am, with some local skaters... messed my wrist up really badly. could barely stand up on one. that was it, leave it to the pros
Tony Hawk on the PS1 was a favourite game though
#23
Good Movies / Re: Movies you'd be surprised ...
Last post by zombie no.one - Today at 04:28:18 AMORLY?... you've gone sideways in my estimation 
#24
Entertainment / Re: What have you been listeni...
Last post by Allhallowsday - January 07, 2026, 10:57:33 PMTHE VELVET UNDERGROUND White Light/White Heat
#25
Entertainment / Re: What have you been listeni...
Last post by Allhallowsday - January 07, 2026, 10:34:29 PMThe Best of NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS
#26
Good Movies / Re: Movies you'd be surprised ...
Last post by Trevor - January 07, 2026, 10:20:39 PMQuote from: zombie no.one on January 07, 2026, 05:54:12 PMMOVIE 43
FAT SLAGS
A SERBIAN FILM
HUMAN CENTIPEDE 3
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
Oy 😳😳😆😂😄😀😀😃😄🐢
Loved them all 😉😉
#27
Good Movies / Re: Recent Viewings, Part 2
Last post by M.10rda - January 07, 2026, 08:44:06 PMTHE LOCKET (1946):
I don't want to risk overselling this but given its vintage and its mostly unknown (to me) personnel, it was quite a... surprise. A dyspeptic looking British man shows up at the engagement party for an older high society groom and his younger fiancee. The Brit wants to warn the rich guy about what he's getting into, and he begins relating a flashback. Shortly that flashback introduces third-billed Robert Mitchum (the only famous person in the cast) who gets his own flashback that lasts about half the movie. And eventually there's a flashback within his flashback.
Yep, by the time we're three flashbacks deep, it's clear that THE LOCKET is on some dank Borges/Nolan s#!t. If it was still just in service of some milquetoast romantic melodrama, big deal - but slowly THE LOCKET reveals itself to be a slowly simmering psychological thriller, with a gradual bodycount...
Although initially its deceptively straightforward in style, THE LOCKET maintains a chilly tone (almost ala Chabrol or Haneke) which really emphasizes a few brief yet powerful flourishes: two startlingly loud bursts of sound FX which interrupt the placid ambience and announce unexpected eruptions of violence, and one zoom-to-CU that blows out into freakish overexposure, like key shots from Zulawski's POSSESSION. Even those tiny grace notes really deliver a punch and elevate THE LOCKET into an event. Perhaps most admirably, there is no lengthy attempt to explain the lead femme fatale's behavior in diagnostic terms (even though one of the other main characters is a psychoanalyst) - the screenplay lets her actions speak for her and allows us to do the math. THE LOCKET could've maybe improved by half a star if it ended one scene earlier, but even as is, this is a movie that feels decades ahead of its time.
4/5
Director John Brahm also directed a stylish though silly werewolf movie called THE UNDYING MONSTER and two well-regarded thrillers I've never bothered to check out - HANGOVER SQUARE and the 40s remake of THE LODGER. I might need to watch those now...
I don't want to risk overselling this but given its vintage and its mostly unknown (to me) personnel, it was quite a... surprise. A dyspeptic looking British man shows up at the engagement party for an older high society groom and his younger fiancee. The Brit wants to warn the rich guy about what he's getting into, and he begins relating a flashback. Shortly that flashback introduces third-billed Robert Mitchum (the only famous person in the cast) who gets his own flashback that lasts about half the movie. And eventually there's a flashback within his flashback.
Yep, by the time we're three flashbacks deep, it's clear that THE LOCKET is on some dank Borges/Nolan s#!t. If it was still just in service of some milquetoast romantic melodrama, big deal - but slowly THE LOCKET reveals itself to be a slowly simmering psychological thriller, with a gradual bodycount...Although initially its deceptively straightforward in style, THE LOCKET maintains a chilly tone (almost ala Chabrol or Haneke) which really emphasizes a few brief yet powerful flourishes: two startlingly loud bursts of sound FX which interrupt the placid ambience and announce unexpected eruptions of violence, and one zoom-to-CU that blows out into freakish overexposure, like key shots from Zulawski's POSSESSION. Even those tiny grace notes really deliver a punch and elevate THE LOCKET into an event. Perhaps most admirably, there is no lengthy attempt to explain the lead femme fatale's behavior in diagnostic terms (even though one of the other main characters is a psychoanalyst) - the screenplay lets her actions speak for her and allows us to do the math. THE LOCKET could've maybe improved by half a star if it ended one scene earlier, but even as is, this is a movie that feels decades ahead of its time.
4/5
Director John Brahm also directed a stylish though silly werewolf movie called THE UNDYING MONSTER and two well-regarded thrillers I've never bothered to check out - HANGOVER SQUARE and the 40s remake of THE LODGER. I might need to watch those now...
#28
Bad Movies / Re: The Ultimate So Bad It's G...
Last post by Rev. Powell - January 07, 2026, 08:11:01 PM+ Showgirls
+ House of the Dead
+ Gymkata
10 Apple, The (1980)
11 Atomic Submarine, The (1959)
12 Attack of the Puppet People (1958)
10 Bad Girls Go to Hell (1965)
12 Beast with a Million Eyes, The (1955)
9 Ben and Arthur (2002)
12 Billy the Kid vs Dracula (1966)
9 Birdemic 3: Sea Eagle (2022)
15 Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010)
10 Blood Diner (1987)
10 Bloodsucking Freaks (1976)
12 Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things (1972)
10 Codename: Wildgeese (1984)
13 Dragon Lives Again, The (1977)
13 Dünyayı Kurtaran Adam (The Man Who Saves the World) aka Turkish Star Wars (1982)
12 Fatal Deviation (1998)
14 Glen or Glenda? (1953)
12 Gymkata (1985)
11 Hard Ticket to Hawaii (1987)
15 Hobgoblins (1988)
6 House of the Dead (2003)
11 Howling Part 7: New Moon Rising, The (1995)
2 Leprechaun 4: In Space (1996)
5 Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island (1954)
10 Maniac (1934)
12 Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
14 Message from Space (1978)
10 Miami Connection (1987)
12 Mommie Dearest (1981)
10 New Year's Evil (1980)
14 No Holds Barred (1989)
22 Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959)
7 Protector, The (1985)
10 Reefer Madness (1936)
10 Return of the Family Man (1990)
13 Robo Vampire (1988)
18 Robot Monster (1953)
21 Room, The (2003)
10 S.I.C.K. (Serial Insane Clown Killer) (2003)
12 Samurai Cop (1991)
11 Santa Claus (1959)
4 Scanners 3: The Takeover (1992)
11 Sharknado (2013)
10 Showdown in Little Tokyo (1991)
19 Showgirls (1995)
14 Space Mutiny (1988)
12 Starcrash (1978)
17 Troll 2 (1990)
10 Wicker Man, The (2006)
16 Zardoz (1974)
Ranked:
1. 22 Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959)
2. 21 Room, The (2003)
3. 19 Showgirls (1995)
4. 18 Robot Monster (1953)
5. 17 Troll 2 (1990)
6. 16 Zardoz (1974)
7t. 15 Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010)/Hobgoblins (1988)
9t. 4 tied at 14
13t. 3 tied at 13
16t. 10 tied at 12
2 at 9, 1 at 7, 1 at 6, 1 at 5, 1 at 4, 1 at 2
Sortable spreadhseet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JN0iqwwMsLY85NpLPULaMJGbTrVMoH8OLYecznVD3XE/edit?gid=0#gid=0
+ House of the Dead
+ Gymkata
10 Apple, The (1980)
11 Atomic Submarine, The (1959)
12 Attack of the Puppet People (1958)
10 Bad Girls Go to Hell (1965)
12 Beast with a Million Eyes, The (1955)
9 Ben and Arthur (2002)
12 Billy the Kid vs Dracula (1966)
9 Birdemic 3: Sea Eagle (2022)
15 Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010)
10 Blood Diner (1987)
10 Bloodsucking Freaks (1976)
12 Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things (1972)
10 Codename: Wildgeese (1984)
13 Dragon Lives Again, The (1977)
13 Dünyayı Kurtaran Adam (The Man Who Saves the World) aka Turkish Star Wars (1982)
12 Fatal Deviation (1998)
14 Glen or Glenda? (1953)
12 Gymkata (1985)
11 Hard Ticket to Hawaii (1987)
15 Hobgoblins (1988)
6 House of the Dead (2003)
11 Howling Part 7: New Moon Rising, The (1995)
2 Leprechaun 4: In Space (1996)
5 Long John Silver's Return to Treasure Island (1954)
10 Maniac (1934)
12 Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
14 Message from Space (1978)
10 Miami Connection (1987)
12 Mommie Dearest (1981)
10 New Year's Evil (1980)
14 No Holds Barred (1989)
22 Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959)
7 Protector, The (1985)
10 Reefer Madness (1936)
10 Return of the Family Man (1990)
13 Robo Vampire (1988)
18 Robot Monster (1953)
21 Room, The (2003)
10 S.I.C.K. (Serial Insane Clown Killer) (2003)
12 Samurai Cop (1991)
11 Santa Claus (1959)
4 Scanners 3: The Takeover (1992)
11 Sharknado (2013)
10 Showdown in Little Tokyo (1991)
19 Showgirls (1995)
14 Space Mutiny (1988)
12 Starcrash (1978)
17 Troll 2 (1990)
10 Wicker Man, The (2006)
16 Zardoz (1974)
Ranked:
1. 22 Plan 9 From Outer Space (1959)
2. 21 Room, The (2003)
3. 19 Showgirls (1995)
4. 18 Robot Monster (1953)
5. 17 Troll 2 (1990)
6. 16 Zardoz (1974)
7t. 15 Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010)/Hobgoblins (1988)
9t. 4 tied at 14
13t. 3 tied at 13
16t. 10 tied at 12
2 at 9, 1 at 7, 1 at 6, 1 at 5, 1 at 4, 1 at 2
Sortable spreadhseet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JN0iqwwMsLY85NpLPULaMJGbTrVMoH8OLYecznVD3XE/edit?gid=0#gid=0
#29
Good Movies / Re: Movies you'd be surprised ...
Last post by zombie no.one - January 07, 2026, 05:54:12 PMMOVIE 43
FAT SLAGS
A SERBIAN FILM
HUMAN CENTIPEDE 3
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
FAT SLAGS
A SERBIAN FILM
HUMAN CENTIPEDE 3
FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY
