Things on tv shows I never understood.......

[LH-C]

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Yeah, in fact, when I first saw Jadzia, that's what I thought was going on.

[akiratubo]

LH-C Wrote:
> Yeah, and originally, they looked completely
> different as well. What happened in production
> there? Who decided on an overhaul?
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> LH-C - my photography

It's all about the sex appeal.  Most alien females on Star Trek are humanoid, have huge tits, round asses, hourglass figures, and maybe just a few tweaks on the face.  Most of the alien females are also really horny and will jump into bed with anything vaguely humanoid.  Think of who the (supposed) core audience of Trek is and put two and two together.

That's why the Trll makeup was changed for Dax.

[Just Plain Horse]

AndyC Wrote:
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> And I also wonder how Banner fits all his
> belongings in that tiny, little tote bag,
> especially when he goes through two or three sets
> of clothes every episode.

And how does Banner manage to hold a job long enough to collect a paycheck? I mean, if the slightest thing sets his transformation off, that means hitting his hand with a hammer or burning himself on the fryer would send him into one of his hulk rages... I suppose he could use the same day labor type of places, but then it raises the question of where he gets the money for all the clothes he goes through... unless he visits the salvation army every other day...

I always got the impression that McGee was obsessed over the hulk story. I pictured him ultimately getting fired, becoming homeless, and spending every free minute of his time searching for the hulk. After breaking his last camera during a hulk encounter, he resorts to making hasty skectches and tries to sell them to the worst newspapers he can find. Probably turns to booze and from that point on, Banner has it better off than McGee does...

[trekgeezer]

This is just another bit of mis-continuity in Star Trek lore.  There is a publicity photo of the crew from DS9 that has Dax in the same makeup worn by the Trill Odan in the TNG episode. Why they made the change I have no idea. It may have been that Terry Farrell didn't like the prosthetic.

The Trill on TNG could not travel through the transporter because it could harm the symbiote. Also, the symbiote was dominate over the host, unlike on DS9 where the host and symbiote personalities were blended and both retained the memories of past blendings.

Star Trek continuity has lots of holes in it, but considering there have been five series and 10 movies they overall do a pretty good job of trying to keep it together.

[trekgeezer]

Worf changed every year on TNG, with his hair getting longer until he finally wore it i a pony tail. His skin got darker because they decided to do the make up for black actor portraying Klingons in the actors natural skin tones. On DS9 had the makeup they used for him in Generations with heavier eyebrows and beard. His forehead did not change.

Michael Dorn got so good at his facial expressions that they could use less adhesive on his prosthetics and cut his makeup time down to 90 minutes.

Remember the Klingons on TOS were just swarthy looking guys with bushy eyebrows and goatees. In The Motion Picture they all had brow ridges that ran to the back of their heads, but they did wear the same type uniforms as the later Klingons. The look of Klingons on TNG started with The Search for Spock.

I always get annoyed a people who say Klingons all look alike. Every family had a distinctive brow ridge, so you could tell who was related. Worf , Alexander his son, and Kurn his brother all have the same brow ridge.

I know it's scary I know all this crap, but I also know a lot about a lot of other things. That's what you get when you read a lot of books and watch a lot of tv and movies.

[LH-C]

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Trek, what was the difference between the Klingons in Star Trek - The Movie, Wrath Of Khan, and Search For Spock? (I can't even remember if there were any Klingons in Wrath, I haven't seen it in so long.)

[trekgeezer]

In ST:TMP the Klingons were bald on top and had a big ridge that looked like a spine running from their nose to the back of their head. They had just short hair on the sides. Everybody's ridges looked the same. No Klingons appear in TWOK. Christopher Lloyd appeared as Commander Kruge in the Search for Spock.

Here are so pics;

The Klingon Commander from TMP



Chistopher Lloyd and crew from Star Trek III




Trivia: Mark Lenard (better known as Sarek, Spock's father) played the Klingon Commander in TMP. James Doohan (Scottie) came up with the Klingon and Vulcan dialogue for the movie.

The Klingon standing on your left of Chris Loyd is John Larroquette from Night Court. When he was asked what is was like wearing the Klingon makeup, he said it was like having a crab sitting on your head.

They needed more extensive Klingon dialogue for STIII, so they hired a linguist  Marc Okrand to expand on Doohan's work.  He eventually made up an entire language and published the Klingon to English dictionary.

And no, I can't recite anything in Klingon except one word, ki'plah. This is a good bye greeting you hear all the time on TNG, it means Success!

[AndyC]

In the Motion Picture, they just had a single ridge in the middle that looked kind of like a spine running from front to back, which was a pretty big change from TOS. There were no Klingons in ST2, but when they played a big part in ST3, a little more work was put into reinventing them for the movies.

[AndyC]

Good point Horse. I hadn't even thought about Banner's financial situation. He never seemed to work at a job more than a couple of days before he had to disappear again. Did he ever make it to payday?

And notice how he only got jobs that would offer a group of ruffians an opportunity to throw him into a dumpster, behind a counter or into an empty back room.

[LH-C]

Thanks, guys! When I was growing up in the late '70s and '80s (and into the '90s when I was in HS) I really liked the Star Trek franchise, but in the past 10-12 years I've lost interest, and haven't even really watched anything since DS9 went off the air. Never watched either Voyager or Enterprise.

[AndyC]

Argh, beaten to the post by four minutes. Curse you, trek_geezer!