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Reggie or Ash?

Started by Menard, April 11, 2007, 12:49:43 PM

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Oldskool138

Quote from: tombofanubisdotcom on April 12, 2007, 12:18:30 AM
Ripley is by far the baddest ass of the three. She also started out as a "wrong person in the wrong place" character like the other two, but by the time Aliens hit, she had fully changed over to bad-ass mode. No cutesy smirks, no smarmy ego, no one-liners, pure and simple "don't eff with me or you will die in flames and boo-boos" mode.

"Let her go, you b***h" is not a one-liner?  I agree Ripley has less one liners per capita but she is not totally devoid of them.
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-Dr. Paul Nelson (Peter Graves)

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AnubisVonMojo

Quote from: Oldskool138 on April 13, 2007, 06:21:58 AM
"Let her go, you b***h" is not a one-liner?  I agree Ripley has less one liners per capita but she is not totally devoid of them.

You consider that a one-liner? I never looked at "Let her go, you b***h" as one-liner material. When I think one-liner, I think stuff like "Hail to the king, baby" or the chick at the end of Hellraiser saying "Go to Hell". You know, something that's supposed to be ironic or topically punny to that moment of the movie.I mean, granted, the Alien Queen isn't a female dog, so the entire quote isn't literal, but I'm not convinced that counts as a one-liner.

"Don't make me stain my last clean shirt with the back of your head." - Shatter Dead
"A grizzly bear with a chainsaw. Now THERE's a killing machine!" - The Simpsons
"I've always wanted to make love to an angry welder." - Jaws: the Revenge

Oldskool138

Look at the whole set-up that scene.  It's classic one-liner stuff.  She's back-lit with all kind of strobe lights.  The swooping camera closeup.  The typical beasty roar in response from the queen Alien.  It's akin to "Hasta la vista" in T2.
He learned almost too late that man is a feeling creature... and because of it, the greatest in the universe........
-Dr. Paul Nelson (Peter Graves)

That gum you like is going to come back in style.
-The Man from Another Place

Jim H

Quote from: tombofanubisdotcom on April 13, 2007, 09:31:47 AM
Quote from: Oldskool138 on April 13, 2007, 06:21:58 AM
"Let her go, you b***h" is not a one-liner?  I agree Ripley has less one liners per capita but she is not totally devoid of them.

You consider that a one-liner? I never looked at "Let her go, you b***h" as one-liner material. When I think one-liner, I think stuff like "Hail to the king, baby" or the chick at the end of Hellraiser saying "Go to Hell". You know, something that's supposed to be ironic or topically punny to that moment of the movie.I mean, granted, the Alien Queen isn't a female dog, so the entire quote isn't literal, but I'm not convinced that counts as a one-liner.

She doesn't really have one liners (that's the closest to be one) because Aliens is scripted very well as an action drama.  It actually attempts to be realistic for the most part.  Terminator and Terminator 2 are mostly the same way, though Arnie does get a few.

And man, I've only seen the first two Phantasms at this point (I thought the second one was boring, so I didn't watch the third), but I don't really see the appeal of Reggie.  He seemed fairly useless most of the time.