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Michael Savage fights back against Islamic group.

Started by CheezeFlixz, December 02, 2007, 12:48:40 AM

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Mortal Envelope

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In the brief few moments I've listened to Michael Savage I've heard more hatred, fear-n-smear tactics, overgeneralizations, non-sequitors, logical fallacies, and demonizations than I care to hear in a lifetime.  But that's infotainment for you: ratings > honesty.

Honestly, I'd rather listen to political commentary from Randy Savage <"ewww yeah">.

lester1/2jr

cheez-  don't get me wrong.  he's definately entitled to his opinion.  I just can't help but think of the time bill oreilly and FOX sued al franken, catapaulting his book "lying liars" to #1 at Amazon.


I don't understand what CAIR's point is in existing?  what do they do?   

CheezeFlixz

Quote from: lester1/2jr on December 04, 2007, 10:25:02 AM
I don't understand what CAIR's point is in existing?  what do they do?   

Good question, I read elsewhere (meaning other than Savage) that they have funding ties to Hamas and other radical Islamic groups. They promote pro Islamic ideologies and complain about non Islamic ideologies such as the 10 commandments in school, Merry Christmas being said and the public displays of Christian symbols, like a Christmas Tree or nativity scene.
Because we all know that some lighten plastic statues of Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus well cause people to convert to Christianity. Or a Christmas tree will make you crave beer, pork and porn. :lookingup:

Allhallowsday

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on December 03, 2007, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 02, 2007, 10:40:55 PM
Someday, anyday, someone may generalize about me or you. 
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Right there you remind me of myself again... and right you are!   :smile: Touche. 

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on December 04, 2007, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: lester1/2jr on December 04, 2007, 10:25:02 AM
I don't understand what CAIR's point is in existing?  what do they do?  

Good question, I read elsewhere (meaning other than Savage) that they have funding ties to Hamas and other radical Islamic groups...
CAIR's founders are members of HAMAS.   I have no support for organizations or their affiliates that promote suicide bombings and the destruction of any extant state. 
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the ghoul

#19
I do not consider myself a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but I do listen to Savage partly because he makes me laugh when he rants and raves, but also because I actually agree with much of what he has to say.  He is a bigot, unfortunately, which is why I don't like him personally, but he is right when he says that the republican and democrat front-runners are all cut from the same mold.  The U.S. is in a rapid state of decline and things are not going to change if any of the major candidates we have right now are elected.  We need a radical shift in the way our government does business, but the media steers the majority of voters right back to the status quo time and again by marginalizing anyone who suggests real change.  Have you ever noticed that during the debates the candidates who get the loudest cheers from the audience are the ones that are completely ignored by the talking heads during their post-debate commentaries.  It is clear we are going down the toilet, but anyone who suggests a change in direction is portrayed as a nobody or a whacko.  Then people will think "I like this guy's stance on the war, tax reform, and immigration, but they say he has no chance of winning, so I'll vote for Hillary or Rudy as the lesser of evils rather than waste my vote on a loser."  I just heard something on the TV news this morning about how Obama is considered the "face of change," because "his last name is not Bush or Clinton."  I defy anyone to find any logic whatsoever in that statement. What does a last name have to do with the issues?  It's just a way to misguide the more dissatisfied voters towards voting for Obama, who is another status quo candidate with no significant difference from Bush or Clinton.  This is democracy in action?  We are so incredibly screwed over.  I've just about given up hope. 

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Captain Tars Tarkas

Savage is a complete farce.  Mike Savage (real name Mike Weiner) regularly hung around with the beatniks and poets in the North Beach district of San Francisco for years before getting his radio gig, where he just does extremism for cash.  While his shift from liberalism to conservativeness may have happened, I doubt he really believes the crazy stuff he says and is just pocketing mad loot.

lester1/2jr

why are there any of these groups.  what "colored person"  has ever been helped to advance by the NAACP.  who has been kept from defaming someone because of the anti defamation league.

These organizations seem to just be places for rich people of various groups to feel better about themseelves by dropping a donation.  CAIR is what, the council of american islamic relations?  what is that muslim americans doing public relations?  i can't even tell what the name means.  they have undoubdetly led to far more people being annoyed at muslims than would if they didn't launch frivolous lawsuits.  that goes for all the above named groups


Captain Tars Tarkas

Quote from: lester1/2jr on December 06, 2007, 05:37:33 PM
why are there any of these groups.  what "colored person"  has ever been helped to advance by the NAACP.
I'm going to go with "all of them" but that's just me and my thinking school integration, voting rights, tearing down of forced neighborhood segregation, protesting against blacks forced to the back of the bus, fighting against Jim Crow laws, and Moore v. Dempsey helped "advance" people.

lester1/2jr

okay.  but how about lately?

i'm not arguing against activism, I'm arguing against advocacy groups that seem to make the people they are trying to help worse off

CheezeFlixz

We're a little off topic here but I feel the NAACP should lose it's tax exempt status because it's a political organization and under 501 rules you can not be political and tax exempt too.
You can support a political candidate you just can not be a political activist group, which the NAACP is.


Same goes for CAIR they should lose their exempt status.