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Christopher Hitchens dies at 62

Started by Joe the Destroyer, December 16, 2011, 01:30:56 AM

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indianasmith

I think we can safely say that Mr. Hitchens is no longer an atheist.

If he was correct, and death is the end of all things, then he is nothing at all.
If he was incorrect, then now he knows it.

Rest in peace.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Jack

"A man of ferocious intellect, who was as vibrant on the page as he was at the bar."  A great epitaph.  I didn't follow his work much, but he impressed me greatly with what little I did see.  A true one-of-a-kind, the world is a bit poorer with his passing.
The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.

- Paulo Coelho

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Rev. Powell

An original and a true independent thinker.  A socialist who vociferously supported the Iraq war; he loved Thomas Jefferson and Leon Trotsky, hated Bill Clinton and Mother Theresa (!)  Love him or hate him, the world is a little less interesting now.
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

Jim H

Always seemed like kind of a douche, but somehow a likable one.  The world was more interesting for having him in it, and that's a high compliment. 

On another note, he was mostly spot on about Mother Theresa.

indianasmith

I find that an odd comment.  A woman gives her entire life to alleviate the suffering of others, and he HATED her for it?  What's up with that?
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Newt

Quote from: indianasmith on December 17, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
I find that an odd comment.  A woman gives her entire life to alleviate the suffering of others, and he HATED her for it?  What's up with that?

I'm afraid I agree with Jim H.

For starters, he found the process of her beatification to be lacking rigor.  It's a case of "Caesar's Wife": having to be seen to be beyond reproach.  Apparently it failed at that.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html

And his view of her 'good works' certainly does not conform to the standard PR stance:  (from the above article)

"...MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) ..."
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indianasmith

Interesting.  Thanks for the clarification.  Don't know that I agree, but it explains a lot.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

RCMerchant

The guy was an intelligent nut.
I liked him.
RIP
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Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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indianasmith

"An intelligent nut . . . " 

I like that.
I hope when I depart that people can say of me, that I made the world a more interesting place.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

RCMerchant

Quote from: indianasmith on December 18, 2011, 03:05:37 PM
"An intelligent nut . . . " 

I like that.
I hope when I depart that people can say of me, that I made the world a more interesting place.
I'll die before you,Indy. And if there is anotherside-I'll give you a sign. Talk over your TV like POLTERGEIST. :wink:
Supernatural?...perhaps. Baloney?...Perhaps not!" Bela Lugosi-the BLACK CAT (1934)
Interviewer-"Does Dracula ever end for you?
Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
Slobber, Drool, Drip!
https://www.tumblr.com/ronmerchant

indianasmith

As long as you don't turn into a giant, killer, mutant chicken like in POULTRYGEIST!
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Sleepyskull

He's going to rearrange all your arrowheads!  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
Humanity takes itself too seriously. It is the world`s original sin. - Oscar Wilde

Allhallowsday

Quote from: Newt on December 17, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: indianasmith on December 17, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
I find that an odd comment.  A woman gives her entire life to alleviate the suffering of others, and he HATED her for it?  What's up with that?
I'm afraid I agree with Jim H.
For starters, he found the process of her beatification to be lacking rigor.  It's a case of "Caesar's Wife": having to be seen to be beyond reproach.  Apparently it failed at that.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html

And his view of her 'good works' certainly does not conform to the standard PR stance:  (from the above article)

"...MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) ..."
HITCHENS did not understand Faith or religious commitment.  MOTHER THERESA interpreted her deep Catholic Faith fundamentally.  From a Humanist perspective, HITCHENS criticisms would have been warranted, but he apparently had a habit of denigrating the targets of his insightful criticism, which obfuscated his points. 

MOTHER THERESA and I may have shared similar views as to what any human being has the right to expect from their God. 
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