Elon Musk, conman?

[Alex]

I am merely pointing out that your assertation that you hadn't posted anything off-topic was incorrect. There was nothing more to it than that. You could ask me about Musk if you wanted, but I've already given my view on him in this thread. It wouldn't really matter either way though. I mean look what happened when I actually agreed with you about something previously.

You joined ER in going off-topic by personally attacking me. Did you expect me to keep quiet about that?

BTW, about asking you about Musk, what do you think I've been doing during this discussion?

I don't really care if you defend yourself or not. This is all just a consequence of you repeatedly trying to tell me I'd said something different from what I had. If you don't like this, then you shouldn't have done it. Simple.

As I said I've given my opinion on him. Back when I used to have more spare time, I'd have looked into his background, how he made his money and so forth. I can say that in the few times I've seen him talking he has the tells of a practised and comfortable liar, but no different than I'd see from anyone else in a similar position (senior businessmen, politicians and journalists tend to have the same reactions) and I wouldn't read too much into that by itself. His body language screams attention seeking, again nothing out of the ordinary, although his seems to tend toward wanting notoriety. Watch interviews with him and watch the eyes. How they move tells you a lot. If they move up and to the right, the chances are you are hearing a lie (not always totally foolproof, but it is one of those things that can give you hints on where to dig when you are getting information from someone). If you have the time to sit and watch a lot of footage, you can always measure the blink rate as a stress indicator associated with someone lying or running a con. Another good way of picking out con men is simply to run claims they make through a few fact-checkers...

[ralfy]

I don't really care if you defend yourself or not. This is all just a consequence of you repeatedly trying to tell me I'd said something different from what I had. If you don't like this, then you shouldn't have done it. Simple.

As I said I've given my opinion on him. Back when I used to have more spare time, I'd have looked into his background, how he made his money and so forth. I can say that in the few times I've seen him talking he has the tells of a practised and comfortable liar, but no different than I'd see from anyone else in a similar position (senior businessmen, politicians and journalists tend to have the same reactions) and I wouldn't read too much into that by itself. His body language screams attention seeking, again nothing out of the ordinary, although his seems to tend toward wanting notoriety. Watch interviews with him and watch the eyes. How they move tells you a lot. If they move up and to the right, the chances are you are hearing a lie (not always totally foolproof, but it is one of those things that can give you hints on where to dig when you are getting information from someone). If you have the time to sit and watch a lot of footage, you can always measure the blink rate as a stress indicator associated with someone lying or running a con. Another good way of picking out con men is simply to run claims they make through a few fact-checkers...

In terms of talking, he reminds me of his critics. For example,

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1625734305447088128

What interests me, though, is the manner by which he is using their own tools against them; in this case, a platform that they were using to manipulate the populace.

They've actually been doing that for some time using both mainstream and social media, but now they are being outed by their own peers:

https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trumped-up-press-versus-president-part-1.php

In short, the outlets that are supposed to be working in the best interest of the people were not, and social media platforms were doing similar.

What makes the situation even more compelling is that Musk supports Biden and works readily with the likes of Murdoch:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1624986889391407106

which means that if he's a con man, then he's working in favor of those who refer to him as such. Oh, the irony!

[RCMerchant]

Ralph- is their a happy day in your life? 

[ralfy]

Ralph- is their a happy day in your life? 

Of course!

https://twitter.com/ChickThang/status/1625435933251338241

However,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1625368108461613057

Kidding aside,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1624660886572126209

[ralfy]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626705448954114060

[ralfy]

Taibbi's back:

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1627098945359867904

TWITTER FILES #16
Comic Interlude: A Media Experiment

[ralfy]

"Instagram and Facebook to get paid-for verification"

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64697560

Meta Verified will cost $11.99 (£9.96) a month on web, or $14.99 for iPhone users.

...

The move comes after Elon Musk, owner of Twitter, implemented the premium Twitter Blue subscription in November 2022.

[ralfy]

Wat

"Elon Musk is the richest person in the world again"

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/27/tech/elon-musk-richest-man-again/index.html