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Some thoughts on Godzilla 2000

Started by ErikJ, September 07, 2002, 03:44:43 PM

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ErikJ

Just got done watching Godzilla 2000 for the umpteenth time and I have to say while it wasn't a bad film in the Godzilla series (I still love Destroy all Monsters) The effects were not as good as the newer Mothra or Gamara films and the Godzilla costume just wasn't all that, ie; the mouth moved way too stiff as compaired to the earlier incarnations of Godzilla (With the exception of Godzilla '84..That was the worst)

One other thing occured to me, in all of the Godzilla films when he beats the other monsters what do the humans do with the giant bodies? Can't just let them sit there. Plus where would you bury something that big?
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Most of the time, there is no body. Even way back in "Destroy All Monsters," if I recall correctly, King Ghidorah's corpse disappeared in a cave-in, a sort of auto-burial.

In the very first sequel, "Godzilla Raids Again," Angilas' body is burned, but probably still left quite a pile. Since then, up to the past decade, the only actual deaths have been either insectoids (the adult Mothra in "Godzilla vs The Thing," the Kamakilas and Kumonga/Spiega in "Son of Godzilla"), self-destructing or auto-buried bodies (Baragon in "Frankenstein Conquers The World*," Mecha-Godzilla, Dogora), sea burials (Ebirah), or stuff that got shoveled into barrels (Hedorah). Why do only the insects leave a corpse behind...?

In the '90s, the bodies either dissapated (Biollante, Rodan, Space Godzilla, Destroyah, the big G himself), got a sea burial (King Ghidorah, Battra), or joined the surrounding wreckage (Mecha-G, MOGERA).

In the "Millenium Non-Series" (after "G2000" the movies now each have their own continuity, with only the original "Godzilla" in common), things have changed a little bit. Orga left lots of raw meat lying around, albeit in small, easy-to-dispose-of pieces. Megaguirus didn't much behind. All deaths in "Godzilla-Mothra-King Ghidorah: Daikaiju Soukougeki" result in dissapation of varying sorts (not to give out spoilers).

Weird pattern: each time the Godzilla series "reboots," in the second movie he fights a brand-new monster that doesn't exactly hit the big time (Angilas, Biollante, and Megaguirus), then in the third, a "King" (King Kong, King Ghidorah, and...King Ghidorah), then Mothra (although this time around, he fought both KG and Mothra in the same film). After the '90s "Godzilla vs Mothra," there was "Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla," and now, following "Godzilla-Mothra-King Ghidorah," here comes "Godzilla x Mecha-Godzilla." ...C'mon, Toho, break the pattern!!

*American version only. It's no lie, I've seen the original version. I'm assuming that later on, the octopus returned to take Baragon away, too.

Re: "Godzilla 2000"--for a director who was so damned popular (he directed "vs Mothra," "vs MechaGodzilla" and "vs Destroyah" before "G2K"), Okawara is an utter workaday slob. He strived to remove humans as much as possible from the proceedings (look how well his "crowd reaction" shots fit into "GvMG" and "G2K"), and I blame him for Orga's lousy showing. The Orga suit must have been murder to try and move around in, but Okawara's choice of dull camera angles and the lack of editing didn't make the suit-actor's job any easier. (Watch Orga "punch" Godzilla weakly with that rubbery claw and tell me any other director would've done things differently.)

The "G2K" suit reappears in "Godzilla x Megaguirus" and a variation of it will appear in "Godzilla x MechaGodzilla"--which, despite the new "rule," may actually be related to "Megaguirus." The suit's head is "rounder" and the colors are muted--the purple is gone from the spines. Plenty of shots available here.

Personally, I'm not holding out a lot of faith for this one, but hopefully director Kaneko will return to do a sequel to "GMK-Daikaiju Soukougeki" next.

Flangepart

Woah! Monster Zero is too cool. The New MecaGodzilla is way cool!
....The head is more like the snazzy one on the original 70's version, and the new body is a lot more impressive then the 90's MecaG.
....Gotta love the "Hood scoops" on the chest.
....Oooh, i gotta see this one. Btw...monster souviners. Ya gotta believe the market for  "Relics" would make Ebay  unstoppable. Orga ashes, Anguilas hide, and of corse Lead glass embedded G cells.
....One thing thats always intrested me...what would happen in third world countries if a hungry Kaiju happened along?
....Conciter. If the industrial world did not feel threatened, they might let the monster...uh..."Feed". What nations would come to the rescue, when doing so would cause great expense? Would they do something for the sake of self intrest, and if so, what would such intrest be? The U.N. would be useless, as it has only what wealth the big powers decide to give it. The fact is, if the U.S., Russia, China and The European powers don't decide to take action....The third world is Seriously screwed! Sad, but true.

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