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What movie will THE ASYLUM rip off next?

Started by CheezeFlixz, July 30, 2008, 08:43:37 PM

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Jack

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Quote from: The Dungeonmaster on August 10, 2008, 06:56:05 PM
@Jack - No offense, but you probably haven't ever tried to get your "original" idea out on retail shelves. I know and understand what struggling film makers go through just trying to get their movie made and out there. I'm one of them myself. But I can't hate companies like The Asylum because they're making money making movies. If their movies weren't absolutely shoving it in your face what they are, then I'd agree with you.

I've seen ideas stolen. I've seen good, talented, hard-working and creative film makers get swallowed by demons who steal their ideas. So no, I can't call The Asylum ripper offers. Their is far worse out there.

And I understand completely the argument that film makers should push their originality and put an end to the mediocre junk that crams the shelves. But that comment is simply from someone who has never really put a movie together. It's not cheap to make a film and it's god damned hard to make that money back. Which makes investors angry. Which makes your first film your last. There is a balance between art and marketability that has to be worked delicately.

Don't get me wrong, I hate that the movie business makes it so impossible for new and creative ways. But The Asylum really is a lesser evil.

Well, considering that the Asylum is the only independent studio that is really embracing this remake thing, how are they the "lesser evil"?  The other independents aren't doing it.  At least not to such a large degree.  Seems to me they're the "greatest evil" in the independent market.  I certainly don't consider them evil by the way, I actually have several of their DVD's and enjoy them a lot, though I don't have any of their remakes.  I really don't "care" if they make remakes, I'm just not interested in them and certainly not applauding them for it.  If they deserve applause for staying afloat with remakes, don't the other independent studios deserve much greater applause for staying afloat with original material?  I would certainly think so.

I also don't understand this connection you're making between struggling film makers getting their first big break and the Asylum's remakes.  These movies are made by people who have been in the industry for a while, nobody's getting a first big break or anything.  They've got some first time actors of course, and some last-time actors, but so do all the small studios in their low budget productions.  If they make more money with remakes, that doesn't make any difference to me as a member of the audience.  I don't choose which movie to see based on how much money it made or how many people were employed during its filming.  I just wandered into the "independent" section because I was looking for something different - remakes?  Hollywood puts them out by the hundreds.  That's what I was trying to get away from.  I thought that's what independent cinema was there to do, provide the film goer with options.
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The Dungeonmaster

They're a "lesser evil" because they aren't taking great stories and ideas away from people who then never end up getting any credit.

My connection to film makers trying to get their big break has less to do with The Asylum and more to do with how the business works in general. I do think it sucks that more original and bold films don't get the exposure that films "related to" current and hot trends do. But it's just the way it is. And it's not the business men who are making this happen. It's the moviegoers. Everyone on this forum and all of your friends might appreciate, pay for and enjoy new takes in the independent world. But films cost so much to make that their dollars are not enough to make the film break even or repay their investors. But the millions who will watch re-packaged garbage because it stars Angelina Jolie will.

And the good indie films are being made. Many of them do break some ground, get exposure, make money and make the film makers a success. It just doesn't happen very often. So this is why I don't consider The Asylum to be a bad company or think they're just really bad people ripping off others. I know someone personally who wrote the original story for "Monster House" and had it stolen after it was optioned. And that, is the kind of stuff that I consider to be the "greater evil".

Kester Pelagius

Looks like we were ALL wrong.  Asylum's next steaming turd is going to be: MERLIN AND THE WAR OF THE DRAGONS

Jack and The Dungeonmaster you may find the following review interesting: http://www.dreadcentral.com/node/25684
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Quote from: Kester Pelagius on August 13, 2008, 11:32:07 PM
Looks like we were ALL wrong.  Asylum's next steaming turd is going to be: MERLIN AND THE WAR OF THE DRAGONS

Jack and The Dungeonmaster you may find the following review interesting: http://www.dreadcentral.com/node/25684

So they're doing a late Dragon Wars name-steal?

So, what about upcoming movies?  Anyone predict the names for those ones?

Orange Lane- Half-assed stoner movie, advertises lots of nudity.

The Watchers- About a secret society bent on taking over the world and one man wanting to stop them.

Tropic Storm- Disaster movie.

Doom Race- About men racing on a remote island for a chance at some kind of insanely high cash reward. 


The Dungeonmaster

Quote from: Kester Pelagius on August 13, 2008, 11:32:07 PM
Looks like we were ALL wrong.  Asylum's next steaming turd is going to be: MERLIN AND THE WAR OF THE DRAGONS

Jack and The Dungeonmaster you may find the following review interesting: http://www.dreadcentral.com/node/25684
I find the Dread Central article to be pretty funny.