"Thats So Gay"

[AndyC]

The only time I describe anything as gay (other than a person who actually is) is when it really strikes me as stereotypically gay, like Bennett in Commando, a man's frilly pink shirt, Grace Jones covers of showtunes, or whatever. But then it's more of an observation than a value judgment. I don't really think it's right to use it as a general term of contempt, nor is it particularly effective. There are better words.

I will say that some of the terms that were around when I was a kid make me chuckle, like calling somebody a "gaylord." But as somebody said, the appeal is more of a retro thing.

My views on homosexuality have changed substantially in recent years. I think I'm getting more liberal with age, or maybe it's my wife's influence.

By the way, Darksider. This is the second time I've seen you speaking out against homophobia. Is something going on that's put this bee in your bonnet?

[Mr. DS]

By the way, Darksider. This is the second time I've seen you speaking out against homophobia. Is something going on that's put this bee in your bonnet?

Nothing really to be honest.  A little history of me and homophobia though;  I wasn't always accpeting of the gay culture.  Matter of fact in high school I would snub my nose at a same sex couple holding hands.  I'd use terms like "fag" like most of my friends did.  HOWEVER, I grew up and evolved.  Today when I hear homophobia I just don't get it.  So a kid wants to cheer on the high school team?  Who cares?  Who says he's really gay and if he is...who friggin' cares?  Not everyone has to be a macho jock with a barbed wire tattoo on his bicept.  Hell, I'd bank guys like that are more apt to be gay in the long run.

[AndyC]

Jeez, so we have that in common too. Pretty much the same story here.

I can also say that although I'm straight, as somebody who has never completely fit in, I can empathize with gays. I don't like seeing people take crap just for being different.

You had same-sex couples holding hands in your high school? I don't think anybody would have dared in my high school back in the 80s. I remember a few artsy types who were kind of effeminate, and girls who were kind of butch that we used to speculate about. No doubt there were homosexuals, but I can't remember anyone who was confirmed as such. Then again, my friends generally fit into the categories of headbangers, computer nerds and the auto shop crowd. None of them were really the sort you'd feel comfortable admitting something like that to, and they certainly wouldn't tell anybody about any unusual desires they might be having.

[Mr. DS]

You know whats funny Andy, my brother is in his 40s.  He is unmarried and for the life of me I don't recall him ever having a steady girlfriend growing up.  I'm pretty sure he could be gay.  I know he probably wouldn't ever tell me but honestly I don't care either way. 

[indianasmith]

For some reason this topic reminds me of this video -


[<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/PwZNKntZ6CU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/PwZNKntZ6CU?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>


Hope this works . . . I'm not good at embedding stuff.

Since I can't seem to get the imbed to work, here's the link . . ..  still not sure what I am doing wrong.  Oh well. Enjoy the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwZNKntZ6CU

[3mnkids]

Here ya go.

PwZNKntZ6CU

[RCMerchant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_zIy97FyE
Funny....I googled my name once-somebody had used a drawing I drew of a vampire girl...they mentioned that I had a thing about Bela Lugosi and speculated if I was gay. Jeez. I may be a nerd,but I'll bet Iv'e gotton laid more than that guy.  (by girls!)