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Sequels that have nothing to do with the previous film

Started by asimpson2006, December 20, 2007, 07:40:47 AM

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nshumate

Quote from: Gerry on December 21, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
The worst offender ever IMO was HIGHLANDER 2.  I was never so offended by a sequel.

And that's because it WASN'T wholly unrelated to the original -- instead, it tried to retcon it into a stupid space opera-cum-halfbaked environmental parable.
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Gerry

Something like that...

BEASTMASTER 2 was pretty bad too.

Automan2000

Quote from: Mr. Briggs Inc. on December 20, 2007, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: AndyC on December 20, 2007, 10:17:16 AM
Quote from: odinn7 on December 20, 2007, 09:41:47 AM
One that comes to mind right away...Halloween 3....what the hell were they thinking?

They were thinking "we can make a lot more money off this if it rides on the coattails of those other two movies."
I think you mean House 3 :buggedout:, wasn't Halloween 3 actually brought up by John Carpenter and the producers' decision to not turn Halloween into a yearly anthology thing what made him leave further films?

I always thought that the reason John Carpenter distanced himself from Hollywood was because of Big Trouble In Little China. I seem to remember that he felt that the studio had dropped the ball on promoting it because they didn't think it would make any money.

respectmeordye3

The Sandlot sequels.

future ones also--and I can say that because in an interview the creator said he wanted to make several sequels set in different time periods.---though I guess Sandlot three gets a free pass seeing as it had one of the original characters as an adult in it's time travel story.....

DistantJ

I think worse than this is when they actually RENAME completely unrelated (usually foreign, particularly italian) movies for certain releases to try and sell them. There's DEMONS 3: THE OGRE, which is basically, well, THE OGRE, renamed to get sales, which has nothing at all to do with the story, the feel, the idea, the cast, or anything at all, of DEMONS.

While D3:TO was the only phoney DEMONS sequel to exist on DVD, on VHS in various places, there's a grand total of FOUR different movies released with the name DEMONS 3,  (only one of which, THE CHURCH (originally planned as DEMONS 3), having any connections with DEMONS), one ORIGINALLY named DEMONS 3 (though unrelated anyway!!) then renamed to BLACK DEMONS, then there's about 3 movies called DEMONS 4, and DEMONS 6: ARMEGEDON (Yes, Armageddon is incorrectly spelled in the name). Some are zombie movies, some demon movies, one a movie about some random satanic sect (!)... I don't think anybody has seen DEMONS 5, but it's renamed from another unrelated movie which is apparently a REMAKE of an unrelated movie from 1960.......

ITS BLOODY INSANE.

Basically, there are two Demons movies and there is a semi-prequel with a different name (The Church). Then there are about 10 random Italian unrelated movies renamed to have Demons in the title to make sales. And they didn't even bother to look for some of the many movies which even resembled Demons, just so long as they were horror movies, and they were Italian... I heard once that even Suspiria and Phenomena have been packaged with the Demons title on them.

Absolutely barking mad.

AnubisVonMojo

Quote from: KYGOTC on December 21, 2007, 01:10:47 AM
And how about THIS doozie?!


As much as I hate it, Shock Treatment is still technically a sequel to Rocky Horror because it's written by Richard O'Brien, follows Brad and Janet, and takes place in their hometown of Denton, which of course has now been turned into one huge TV station. And Nell Campbell is so damn hot as the nurse! :twirl:

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MoronBoy

Silent Night Deadly Night Pt. 4 and 5 come to mind.

HappyGilmore

Does American Pie 4-6 count as sequels, considering basically they're just ripoffs, and the only recurring character is a cameo of sorts by Eugene Levy, even though Jason Biggs isn't even in them?
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nshumate

Quote from: DistantJ on December 22, 2007, 07:30:11 PM
I think worse than this is when they actually RENAME completely unrelated (usually foreign, particularly italian) movies for certain releases to try and sell them. There's DEMONS 3: THE OGRE, which is basically, well, THE OGRE, renamed to get sales, which has nothing at all to do with the story, the feel, the idea, the cast, or anything at all, of DEMONS.

While D3:TO was the only phoney DEMONS sequel to exist on DVD, on VHS in various places, there's a grand total of FOUR different movies released with the name DEMONS 3,  (only one of which, THE CHURCH (originally planned as DEMONS 3), having any connections with DEMONS), one ORIGINALLY named DEMONS 3 (though unrelated anyway!!) then renamed to BLACK DEMONS, then there's about 3 movies called DEMONS 4, and DEMONS 6: ARMEGEDON (Yes, Armageddon is incorrectly spelled in the name). Some are zombie movies, some demon movies, one a movie about some random satanic sect (!)... I don't think anybody has seen DEMONS 5, but it's renamed from another unrelated movie which is apparently a REMAKE of an unrelated movie from 1960.......

ITS BLOODY INSANE.

Basically, there are two Demons movies and there is a semi-prequel with a different name (The Church). Then there are about 10 random Italian unrelated movies renamed to have Demons in the title to make sales. And they didn't even bother to look for some of the many movies which even resembled Demons, just so long as they were horror movies, and they were Italian... I heard once that even Suspiria and Phenomena have been packaged with the Demons title on them.

Absolutely barking mad.

And we could make all the same complaints about the Italian "Zombie" pseudo-series -- especially the installments that include NO zombies.
Nathan Shumate
Cold Fusion Video Reviews
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Andrew

Quote from: nshumate on December 22, 2007, 11:32:26 PM
And we could make all the same complaints about the Italian "Zombie" pseudo-series -- especially the installments that include NO zombies.

I think that those would be the ones my wife would like: zombie movies with no zombies.  Katie has been on some sort of crusade against me watching them ever since I sat down to view the "Blind Dead" collection one night.  It was pretty amusing when I put in "Planet Terror" and told her that it was the second half of "Grindhouse."  After a little bit Katie asked me, "Is this another damn zombie movie?" and I said, "No.  It's a mutant invasion film."  She wasn't buying it.
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D-Man

XTRO 2:  Instead of having anything to do with the bizarre British film that preceded it, they decided to make this one into a horrible ripoff of Aliens starring Jan Michael Vincent.

asimpson2006

Quote from: HappyGilmore on December 22, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
Does American Pie 4-6 count as sequels, considering basically they're just ripoffs, and the only recurring character is a cameo of sorts by Eugene Levy, even though Jason Biggs isn't even in them?

I don't count them as sequels.  IMO they are just using the name of it, just like some of the National Lampoon movies (Which I love some of them btw).

AnubisVonMojo

Quote from: asimpson2006 on December 23, 2007, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on December 22, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
Does American Pie 4-6 count as sequels, considering basically they're just ripoffs, and the only recurring character is a cameo of sorts by Eugene Levy, even though Jason Biggs isn't even in them?
I don't count them as sequels.  IMO they are just using the name of it, just like some of the National Lampoon movies (Which I love some of them btw).

Yeah, I agree on the American Pie movies. Any follow-up movie that doesn't feature the return of the main character (that being Jason Biggs, since his wandering wang was the whole point of the title to begin with) from the previous installments, but insists on using the same title to help market it, isn't really a sequel so much as it is a spin-off... if you really want to split hairs... in which case you can take some from my beard, as there are many.  :teddyr:

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Mortal Envelope

How about the Howling movies?  I don't think any of those atrocities have anything to do with any of the others in the series other than the presence of werewolves (or in one's case, were-marsupials). 

Jack

Spiders 2 - there are giant spiders, but other than that it has absoloutely no connection to the first movie.

Slumber Party Massacre 3 - there's a slumber party and a massacre, but no connection to the previous films.

Sorority House Massacre 2 - same thing, no connection to previous movie.

Jim Wynorski's movies are kind of funny, he uses flashbacks to other movies yet he uses them in movies that aren't sequels.  For instance, Sorority House Massacre 2, Hard to Die and Cheerleader Massacre all use flashback scenes taken from Slumber Party Massacre.  I think the technical term is "padding the run time".
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