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Started by BTM, January 05, 2008, 10:12:17 PM

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Josso

"Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe, or we are not, both are equally terrifying" - Arthur C. Clarke (I think)

JaseSF

If we can't take care of our own planet, why should we spread our blight to others? Assuming it's even possible to do so...of course, in terms of existence, what's to say we (or other human beings, creatures, beings) don't already inhabit unseen universes in other dimensions...where do we measure existence in terms of what's real and unreal? And how do we really,  truly know the difference?
"This above all: To thine own self be true!"

Josso

Heh, expanding into space but not real physical space, that would be cool.. some say that there may be quantum elements to consciousness itself so who knows. The whole "why infest other planets" thing is a bit silly though, saying we should just die off instead of exploring and colonizing space is like... the most defeatist approach ever.

JaseSF

This planet is especially suited to support our life. Not many others have the same advantages this planet does in terms of natural protection from deadly rays from space,cycle of seasons, etc.  Just something to note. I do agree that we should reach for the stars but that we should do so cautiously and with care...
"This above all: To thine own self be true!"

Josso

I think what is interesting is the amount of data on exoplanets has shot up in the last 10 years, we have better ways of determining that they are there and what type of planet it is. It's possible now that there is an inhabitable planet(s) maybe within 50ly which is still a long way but that's a pretty cool thought, the local cluster could be filled with life supporting worlds.

ER

Quote from: JaseSF on May 21, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
If we can't take care of our own planet, why should we spread our blight to others? Assuming it's even possible to do so...of course, in terms of existence, what's to say we (or other human beings, creatures, beings) don't already inhabit unseen universes in other dimensions...where do we measure existence in terms of what's real and unreal? And how do we really,  truly know the difference?


Cogito ergo sum. "I think therefore I am."

As Descartes correctly pointed out, the one and only thing it is possible for a person to know with absolute certainty is that he or she is, at any given moment, undertaking the act of thinking. All else might be an external falsehood or delusion of the senses, but the cognitive process, he argued, cannot be replicated as that replication is itself a measurable  action. Even solipsism cannot be disproven, however flawed a solipsist's arguments might seem to be.

Hinduism holds that the entirety of physical life is an illusion brought about by the soul being caught in the grip of the concept of maya. (Or at times "Maya", the goddess of illusion, the idea of the concept itself given bodily form for convenience sake.)

Myself I think the universe operates on certain definable laws that can be accepted to form the basis of a knowable reality. Unless we on this earth possess a uniqueness that separates us from the remainder of the universe, then universal truths such as gravity, the hyper-abundance of hydrogen, the observable life cycles of stars, galaxies, the laws of thermodynamics, the laws of motion, equations such as Force x Mass=Acceleration, these are things we can say with confidence that we "know" exist.

As for the existence of things unprovable, such as the presence of a divine creator, the inability of humankind to prove God does not in itself disprove God, since one of the oldest axioms of philosophy is "the presence of no evidence is not evidence of no presence." Though some point to the presence of known universal constants as being such evidence.

Whoa, I really shouldn't have had two glasses of wine with lunch.
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Josso

Quote from: ER on May 21, 2014, 01:40:27 PMAs for the existence of things unprovable, such as the presence of a divine creator, the inability of humankind to prove God does not in itself disprove God, since one of the oldest axioms of philosophy is "the presence of no evidence is not evidence of no presence."

That's why I'm agnostic, quite simple really but people seem really bummed out with the "we don't know!" thing, some atheists get really defensive when I mention this.

Josso


Bushma

Quote from: Josso on May 21, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
200th post looks like you're stuck with me

Way to go! Also, if I didn't mention it before (because I likely didn't) welcome!
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ER

Wudyaknow, the dream of the '90s really IS alive in Portland!
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Jack

It's weird when a mass shooting takes place and you can go over to Yutube and watch the psycho's video where he explains exactly why he's going to do it and listen to him chuckle like a cheesy movie villain.
The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.

- Paulo Coelho

Newt

Quote from: Jack on May 24, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
It's weird when a mass shooting takes place and you can go over to Yutube and watch the psycho's video where he explains exactly why he's going to do it and listen to him chuckle like a cheesy movie villain.

For real?   :buggedout:  Not sure 'weird' is quite the word I'd use.   :bluesad:
"May I offer you a Peek Frean?" - Walter Bishop
"Thank you for appreciating my descent into deviant behavior, Mr. Reese." - Harold Finch

Jack

It's over here if anybody wants to watch it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eseVnmXrSo

Yeah, "weird" is probably not the right word.
The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.

- Paulo Coelho

VenomX73

I'm thinking of buying a metal Mechagodzilla 1975 soul of chogokin for my Godzilla collection...

Gilligan's island, Goonies and Godzilla information booth here!

Bushma

Saturday night and I've got a nice buzz going.
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