Palin's Newborn Possibly Not Hers?

CheezeFlixz · September 08, 2008, 04:06:26 PM

Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 08, 2008, 11:15:20 AM
Who are you babbling at? I didn't argue any of those point with you. "Good grief" is right!

You Robin Hood who want to take money from the rich and give it to the moochers.

Allhallowsday · September 08, 2008, 07:26:43 PM

Quote from: CheezeFlixz on September 08, 2008, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 08, 2008, 11:15:20 AM
Who are you babbling at? I didn't argue any of those point with you. "Good grief" is right!

You Robin Hood who want to take money from the rich and give it to the moochers.

I didn't say I wanted to do that... I merely commented about OBAMA's plan which may be a complete failure, but I felt you had mischaracterized it. Moochers...? You mean like Halliburton?

CheezeFlixz · September 08, 2008, 09:44:03 PM

Quote from: Allhallowsday on September 08, 2008, 07:26:43 PM
Moochers...? You mean like Halliburton?

No, like Halliburton which just happens to be the only company in the world that does the work they do, so like them or hate them they have a monopoly do to the amount of capital invest required to do their job.

clockworkcanary · September 09, 2008, 08:16:10 AM

Wow...I've seen it all now: a Haliburton apologist <rolls eyes>.

CheezeFlixz · September 09, 2008, 09:45:38 AM

Quote from: clockworkcanary on September 09, 2008, 08:16:10 AM
Wow...I've seen it all now: a Haliburton apologist <rolls eyes>.

Name me a company that does what they do and has the equipment to do what they do on the scale they do it on. I'm not apologizing for them I'm stating fact ... you know those things that the left wing media has so much trouble with.

Captain Tars Tarkas · September 09, 2008, 11:04:35 AM

Maybe if there was bidding on the contracts, you'd be surprised what would happen.

ulthar · September 09, 2008, 11:45:07 AM

Quote from: The One and Only Tars Tarkas on September 09, 2008, 11:04:35 AM

Maybe if there was bidding on the contracts, you'd be surprised what would happen.

Fair enough. Name one other company that CAN bid on (and complete) the work - that has a track record of completing those types of projects. Then your point will be made in spades.

As I understand the CFR for contracting, based on my experience as a business owner seeking contracts, sole sourcing actually requires a lot of hoops to be jumped through. It can, and does, happen all the time, though.

I've seen projects that were sole sourced on the claim that the provider was the only source that COULD complete the Statement of Work...which was a crock since MY company could have completed that SoW as well. And I know of others, competitors, that likewise could have bid as well. These were always in some fairly obscure specialty field, though, not a highly visible one like oil exploration or building refineries.

At least with the Small Business contracts, it's generally pretty tough to Sole Source a bid request.

Captain Tars Tarkas · September 09, 2008, 11:56:37 AM

I don't have problems with Haliburton doing work or getting contracts, my objections to them is lack of oversight in the offering/bidding of contracts, and the lack of oversight in contract implementation. Haliburton isn't even in Iraq anymore, IIRC, it is either Bechtel, Fluor, Parsons or Louis Berger, I can't remember.

AnubisVonMojo · September 16, 2008, 07:57:31 AM

After Trek's Daily Show clip, I saw this today on Colbert and had to post. Can't figure out quite how to embed it here (no variances I tried seemed to work), so I'm just posting the link. Enjoy!

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/184928/september-15-2008/the-word---how-dare-you-