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The THING (2011)

Started by RCMerchant, December 11, 2010, 10:18:44 AM

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RCMerchant

How do you guys feel about this....without John Carpenter or Rob Bottin's fx...I dunno....

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dean


The trailer was ok until I saw the monster at the last part...  MEH!
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RCMerchant

Quote from: dean on December 11, 2010, 10:58:15 AM

The trailer was ok until I saw the monster at the last part...  MEH!
Zackly. CGI! Wheres Rob Bottin?  :question:
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Sleepyskull

What's p**sing me off isn't so much how they're making it, but rather the fact that it's being made at all.  :hatred:
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Jack

Might check it out when Netflix gets it.   The previous 2 movies were really all about the characters, and Hollywood...sigh.  It's all about the CGI.
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Potato king

umm... I might just be feeding a troll here but guys, you did notice the "Fan- made trailer" part of the description, right?

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Quote from: Potato king on December 12, 2010, 08:11:04 AM
umm... I might just be feeding a troll here but guys, you did notice the "Fan- made trailer" part of the description, right?

Beat me to it. (except he's not a troll)

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I'm looking forward to it, I've read reports that its gonna be good. Even the producers have changed the release date to see if it can make more money.
                                             

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dean


Well then I take it back, the trailer is pretty good then if it's fan made!

I am still looking forward to it, though I don't like the basic concept of a prequel for the Thing purely because you kind of know how it ends and that takes some of the fun out of it.

I'm glad Joel Edgerton is in it though, he does good stuff on occasion!
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Doc Daneeka

Yeah, for something fans cobbled together, worthy attempt. But if that were the actual trailer I wouldn't be seeing it in theaters unless it got stunning rave reviews from true scifi/horror fans.

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I thought that trailer was pretty good, a bit hackneyed, particularly with that CGI monster at the end there, but it also looked like glimpses of non-CGI effects.  We can hope that this film is a worthy homage to the two previous versions, both great movies. 
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Jim H

The director has said of the prequel that it will have a lot of practical but also CG.  I believe he said they'd often be combined - which often works VERY well if done carefully.  One movie I'm thinking of is Laid to Rest, which did stuff like a combining a dummy actually being stabbed with a live actor - SUPER effective in a couple places.  Oftentimes it helps give the motion "weight" when it's combined with real.

Of course, time will tell.  Equally importantly to the thing is some incredible creature design, as Rob Bottin and the rest of the crew on the 1981 version is hard to top. 

ulthar

Quote from: Jim H on December 12, 2010, 10:56:19 PM

Of course, time will tell.  Equally importantly to the thing is some incredible creature design, as Rob Bottin and the rest of the crew on the 1981 version is hard to top. 


I'd also like to add that equally important to the creature effects is the mood created in the 1981 version (which I think surpassed Hawkes' version).  Carpenter and the acting crew were able to make the isolation and paranoia almost like another character.  The creature effects get most of the press when talking about THE THING (1981), and yes, Bottin's work was innovative and impressive, but what really makes the film work is the whole - the story (thanks Campbell), the build-up in mood, and acting framing the fx shots, AND the fx themselves, etc.  It just ALL works. 

That, sadly, is what I fear may be lacking in just about anything out of Hollywood these days...too much emphasis on fx with no mood to capitalize on the audience reaction to those effects.
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Quote from: Jim H on December 12, 2010, 10:56:19 PM
The director has said of the prequel that it will have a lot of practical but also CG.  I believe he said they'd often be combined - which often works VERY well if done carefully.  One movie I'm thinking of is Laid to Rest, which did stuff like a combining a dummy actually being stabbed with a live actor - SUPER effective in a couple places.  Oftentimes it helps give the motion "weight" when it's combined with real.

I remember Irreversible and the smashing the guys face in scene from the beginning that was a combination and worked effectively in my opinion.  It seems to work best when practical is the staple and cg is used as an assistant to bring it into better focus. 
Ah, the good old days.

Couchtr26

Quote from: ulthar on December 12, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
Carpenter and the acting crew were able to make the isolation and paranoia almost like another character.  The creature effects get most of the press when talking about THE THING (1981), and yes, Bottin's work was innovative and impressive, but what really makes the film work is the whole - the story (thanks Campbell), the build-up in mood, and acting framing the fx shots, AND the fx themselves, etc.  It just ALL works. 

That, sadly, is what I fear may be lacking in just about anything out of Hollywood these days...too much emphasis on fx with no mood to capitalize on the audience reaction to those effects.

Shoot, I wanted to comment on both in my last post.  The sense of paranoia, uncertainty and who is it, all contribute to the overall weight of the movie.  The acting is well done.  The characters and their sense of isolation is such a strong staple of it.  To be honest, when I was about 5 the effects really bothered me.  However, when I saw it again about 5 years ago, the characters and the situation seemed to reign over the screen so much more then any mere effect.  The characters and their constant questioning made you feel as though you were there with them.  Experiencing the occurrence and wondering how you would react under similar conditions. 
Ah, the good old days.