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Bill Cosby . . . a Rapist????

Started by indianasmith, November 19, 2014, 09:37:11 PM

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indianasmith

All the current news about Bill Cosby is incredibly depressing to me. The man was the voice of my childhood; I grew up listening to records of him telling funny stories about Go-Kart races and Fat Albert's Hernia and The Chicken Heart That Ate New York City and dozens of others until I could re-tell them from memory. The stand up routine entitled "Bill Cosby Himself" is, to this day, the funniest thing I have ever watched - and it's clean enough to share with your kids. But now all these rape allegations - I'll be honest, I DON'T want to believe them. At all. But where there is that much smoke, I guess it is likely that there is fire of some sort. Betrayed doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about it.
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retrorussell

Yeah, I had heard the allegations long before this recent news.  I grew up on the "Chicken Heart" routine and Fat Albert and Picture Pages, not to mention his Electric Company appearances..
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Olivia Bauer

There are a lot of allegations. It does make me wonder if maybe it's true. I hope not.

But I'm a man that respects the law so as long as he's not convicted I will treat him as if he is innocent, until he is proven guilty.

Jack

There are so many screwballs out there these days, until proven otherwise I'll just assume it's people looking for 15 minutes of fame, a book deal, and and out-of-court settlement.  And this stuff supposedly took place 30 years ago, so it's nothing but he said she said;  I can't imagine how it would ever be "proven" one way or another.
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RCMerchant

Thing is-he aint denying it-it just says its the past-he wont talk about it. He's guilty. Innocent people call you a liar-he aint...he paid them off to shut up. f**k him.
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indianasmith

That may be true.  Or it may be that he does not want to dignify the charges with a response.
That being said, he sure looks guilty. :bluesad:

That crumbling sound you hear is a part of my childhood dying.
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lester1/2jr

In Seinfeld's "Comedian" doc. there's a scene where he's talking to Chris Rock and Rock is telling him about seeing Bill Cosby and hearing entirely new routines. Seinfeld, even today, repeats the same material at all his shows. In the end he talks to Cosby who gives him advice. It's basically the entire point of the movie, that there's always someone better than you and to learn from them

ER

Until he admits to the accusations, or until the truth of them is proven in court, Bill Cosby has the right to be presumed innocent, as I personally suspect he more or less is. Some of these accusations seem easily discredited and the people bringing them against him are not themselves trustworthy. Let his accusers present their cases in a forum where their testimony can be examined and rebutted instead of the open mic character assassination going on against Cosby right now in the media.
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alandhopewell

Quote from: ER on November 25, 2014, 03:21:28 PM
Until he admits to the accusations, or until the truth of them is proven in court, Bill Cosby has the right to be presumed innocent, as I personally suspect he more or less is. Some of these accusations seem easily discredited and the people bringing them against him are not themselves trustworthy. Let his accusers present their cases in a forum where their testimony can be examined and rebutted instead of the open mic character assassination going on against Cosby right now in the media.

     Me, I think it was started by folks who were p**sed at him for basically telling people to pull up their pants, learn to speak Standard English, and stop whining; the ones who followed are just looking for a ride on the Gravy Train.  It's the same sort who're wrecking that town in  Missouri.
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lester1/2jr

That's crazy. 15 different women with similar stories are all making it up?

Allhallowsday

Quote from: RCMerchant on November 22, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
Thing is-he aint denying it-it just says its the past-he wont talk about it. He's guilty. Innocent people call you a liar-he aint...he paid them off to shut up. f**k him.
You always my man. 

Yes, disappointing, but sadly I believe these allegations.  I don't think this is about money or a book deal.  I think the illusion fell like a house of cards.  I think these are all true but only he has to live with it.  :bluesad:
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FatFreddysCat

I'm a Cosby fan, have been for a long time. I grew up listening to my parents' vintage stand up LPs ("Revenge," "Why Is There Air?", "Wonderfulness," etc.) and I can quote his "Bill Cosby: Himself" concert film practically chapter and verse.

However, it certainly doesn't look good for him. I read in the paper earlier this week that the first woman to accuse him of this behavior was basically paid to go away, which is never the mark of an innocent man.

I have to say, though, that his recent social-media fiasco was kind of hilarious in an awful way. Just as this Cosby-as-rapist story started getting traction, some genius on his staff decided it was the perfect time to have a "Make Your Own Cosby Meme!" contest... so of course his official Twitter was flooded with pix making rape jokes. Duhhhh!!!
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RCMerchant

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Quote from: alandhopewell on November 25, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: ER on November 25, 2014, 03:21:28 PM
Until he admits to the accusations, or until the truth of them is proven in court, Bill Cosby has the right to be presumed innocent, as I personally suspect he more or less is. Some of these accusations seem easily discredited and the people bringing them against him are not themselves trustworthy. Let his accusers present their cases in a forum where their testimony can be examined and rebutted instead of the open mic character assassination going on against Cosby right now in the media.

    Me, I think it was started by folks who were p**sed at him for basically telling people to pull up their pants, learn to speak Standard English, and stop whining; the ones who followed are just looking for a ride on the Gravy Train.  It's the same sort who're wrecking that town in  Missouri.
Man-it aint even close-a cop shot an unarmed man-Bill is a rapist. Thats pulling a race card in reverse. Thats like saying OJ was innocent.
Black,white,brown,f**king purple-evil is evil. I gotta pretty acurate bulls**t meter-its going off like a five alarm fire. :bluesad:
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Allhallowsday

Quote from: alandhopewell on November 25, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
Quote from: ER on November 25, 2014, 03:21:28 PM
Until he admits to the accusations, or until the truth of them is proven in court, Bill Cosby has the right to be presumed innocent, as I personally suspect he more or less is. Some of these accusations seem easily discredited and the people bringing them against him are not themselves trustworthy. Let his accusers present their cases in a forum where their testimony can be examined and rebutted instead of the open mic character assassination going on against Cosby right now in the media.

     Me, I think it was started by folks who were p**sed at him for basically telling people to pull up their pants, learn to speak Standard English, and stop whining; the ones who followed are just looking for a ride on the Gravy Train.  It's the same sort who're wrecking that town in  Missouri.
Hmmm.   :question: That's quite a segway you make there.  It seems at least a few of the COSBY accusers could be described as "white".  I think your remarks are as suspect as those you condemn. 
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