Bill Cosby . . . a Rapist????

[pennywise37]

i'm sorry but i can't stand Woody Allen i have seen only films of his i liked and that were Scenes from a mall & Curse of the jade Scorpion and no i haven't seen Annie Hall yet. but the few i have seen were utter garbage minus the 2 i mentioned. though that one he did what 10 or 11 episodes his 1st one he filmed in Paris was an ok film. anyways back to Bill Cosby, if he goes to jail yeah i'll be sad about it but if he's guilty and did it he should go to jail.

i'll be sad only cause i grew up watching him on tv and listening to his comedy albums. in fact i was listening to his last album just recently that just came out as recent as (2013)!  i bought it when it came out actually. i don't remember if he was being accused at the time or not.

either way i was still laughing at one of the tracks called Not Rich i think it's called?

[Jim H]

Woody Allen didn't drug her and rape her while she was unconscious and helpless.
He's still creepy, but Cosby, it turns out, was far worse.

It's definitely bizarre, uncomfortable, and even creepy, but they didn't have a real father-daughter relationship when he was with Mia Farrow, she was of age when they started dating, and they've now been married for coming up on 20 years.  Have to agree it's not even in the same ballpark as, say, RAPING FIFTY PEOPLE.

[lester1/2jr]

legally and morally Cosby is the worse offender but both of them were morally wrong. The Allen's actions were legal and lesser in scale is beside the point

If you were married to a woman who had adopted children who you knew and had a relationship of some kind with would you date one of them?

Jim H- Mia Farrow might disagree. As I recall she had a lot to say on the issue and it wasn't pretty.

Both men were married to women their own age it's not like they are socially inept to the point where they had to do this stuff.

[Jim H]

Yeah, and I'd also say Winona Ryder's actions were morally wrong when she shoplifted, just even lesser in scale.  If I mentioned that and how Hollywood types go outside the law to get what they want even when they have the means, I suspect you'd find this to be an unhelpful comparison though.  That'd be the same school of logic as comparing Allen and Cosby.

[lester1/2jr]

That'd be the same school of logic as comparing Allen and Cosby.

having sex with what was essentially his step daughter is well into taboo territory and society has responded by ostacizing him to large extent, personally if not professionally.

The scandal broke in 1992, when Previn was 20 and her mother found nude Polaroids of her, taken by Allen. But he acknowledges that the relationship began in the late '80s, when Soon-Yi was a teenager. It was a tumultuous time for the Allen-Farrow family, as the couple was embroiled in an ugly, drawn-out separation, made all the more complicated by the children they shared. Allen is the biological father of Ronan Farrow and the adoptive parent of Dylan and Moshe Farrow. Many referred to Soon-Yi as Allen's stepdaughter, though he never assumed legal guardianship over her or any of Farrow's other children.

http://www.refinery29.com/2015/07/91571/woody-allen-soon-yi-previn#.xh3hmoh:1pBv

[Jim H]

I feel like you're arguing against something I didn't actually say (that what Allen did wasn't both wrong and taboo), so I'll just leave it at this:

Shoplifting is wrong.  Being involved with someone barely old enough to consent while you are far older than them and may have had some degree of parenting with previously is very wrong. 

Raping dozens of women over decades is so much worse that it should not be compared to it, and doing so trivializes rape.

[pennywise37]

why is Winona Ryder being brought into this? shoplifting is nothing compared to the stuff that both Allen & Cosby both pulled they were both wrong.

shoplifting isn't even in the same universe as that.

[lester1/2jr]

Jim - I guess I see Allen's crime as ongoing, to an extent. at the same time, it wasn't illegal and I suppose that says something.

[pennywise37]

both men are Disgusting in the things they did. if it's true that Allen dated his step daughter in her teens  was it ever revealed how old she was ? if it's under 18 it's rape by law as you both know and he should be in jail not married to her. i'm sorry i just don't get what people see in Woody Allen, women in particular my mom was a teenager when he did his 1st film in the 60's and even she doesn't see what women see in him.

in real life or in his films.

[lester1/2jr]

I'm a big fan I have to admit. His movies give you a lot to think about and he has a great deal of skill particularly in writing, giving the characters motivations that make sense and the plot being logical and relatable.

[pennywise37]

bill cosby or woody allen?

[lester1/2jr]

woody

[pennywise37]

oh, i dunno why people love Woody Allen even before i saw anything he's done i never understood it. i thought hannah & her sisters was also terrible as well i think it was TCM i saw that on  a few years back. great acting but boring ass movie. much like most of the films i've seen of his. kinda like Orson Wells though i don't think he's not talented i think he was a great director but like him as an actor over a writer as anything i've seen that he's written just bores me to death too.

to use another example. at least with Cosby yes he's done bad films but he's also done films i love as well.

[Rev. Powell]

Woody was great up until ANNIE HALL but after that he's pretty spotty.

[indianasmith]

I think only Yankees understand Woody Allen.