Who should be the next president?

[lester1/2jr]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

[bob]

I just had a thought.

If Trump ends up running as an independent what does that do for his chances?

[lester1/2jr]

not a polling expert but thats what Perot did in 92 and it killed Bush sr's campaign. Since Trump is of course more repub then dem I imagine the same thing would happen?

as for his chances idk

[Skull]

not a polling expert but thats what Perot did in 92 and it killed Bush sr's campaign. Since Trump is of course more repub then dem I imagine the same thing would happen?

as for his chances idk

I think Perot attack Bush for not being a 'real' conservative. I believe Perot took a good number of votes but I'm not sure if those voters would had voted for Bush if Perot wasn't running. The end result was that Clinton won because Perot was a third wheel.

There is a major difference between Perot running and 'if' Trumps becomes a 3rd party player. The difference is Perot was running to take Bush out of the White House; Perot had no intentions in becoming president. Trump is running for the republican seat, he might run for a 3rd party if the Republican party does something shady (Such as removing Trump from the ballad because he didn't pledge loyalty to the party or if Trump is leading during the primary and the Party chooses somebody else)...

If the republican party does something shady in taking Trump out... I will NEVER vote republican again! (I won't vote for democrat either... )

[indianasmith]

My great fear is that Trump is ultimately unelectable.  He is petty, vindictive, and shallow, and his response to criticism is to lash out at the critic with vicious personal attacks.  That's simply not Presidential.  He may well win enough votes to get the Republican nomination, but then he will offend enough people to lose the general election and we'll have another four years of budget-busting Democratic rule.  There are so many better candidates out there . . . I just hope one of them overtakes him.

[lester1/2jr]

Republicans went with electable the last two elections and they lost though. They need someone who can fire up the base.

[indianasmith]

I never thought John McCain was electable. He was a sacrificial lamb, nothing more.
Of course, to be honest, 2008 was going to be a Democratic year no matter what.  You get those every now and then.  2012 was one the GOP had a shot at winning and came close, but Romney, after a strong start, began pulling his punches.  I'll be honest: I'm a lifelong Republican voter, but if Trump is the nominee, I will write in Cthulhu or Darth Vader instead.

[lester1/2jr]

Whatever the reasons McCain and Romney lost they did lose so it would be a little bizarre to run the same kind of candidate again. Bush will lose in similar fashion if the same people vote for / against him. If you KNEW the GOP were going to lose who would you choose? I'd say ted Cruz because thats where most Republicans are, in terms of the platform I think. He's the most conservative and not in a cheeseball corporate way the way the other guys are. protecting monied interests and so forth

[indianasmith]

I'm a huge Marco Rubio fan.  He also stacks up very well against all three top Democratic contenders in several polls.
Cruz has burned too many bridges and made too many enemies.  He's a flamethrower rather than a problem solver, and America desperately needs a problem solver.

[Derf]

I can't say I'm a big fan of any of the people running. I would say that the deciding factor may end up being people's perception of Obama. If they feel like the country is better off now than after Bush, they'll vote Democrat again. If not, they'll vote Republican, whoever is running. People tend toward reactionary votes, voting against someone at least as much as they vote for someone. Obama won in large part because people perceived Bush as a bad president and because Obama presented himself as a reasonable person. I didn't vote for him, but I admired the way he carried himself the first time he ran. He even won a Nobel for not being Bush. The question then becomes whether more people think he's done a good job or a bad job. The next set of candidates have to present themselves well, of course, but Obama's presidency will be a big part of people's voting preference.

One of the things the Republican candidate, regardless of who that may be, needs to do is to avoid the attack mentality that has predominated Republican campaign strategy over the last several decades. I remember back when Bob Dole was trying to run. He came across as a sour, angry man. After Bush got the nomination, Dole appeared on a late night talk show. He was relaxed, smiling, and was genuinely charming and funny. If he had presented himself that way on the campaign trail, I think he would have done better. People seem to be growing very tired of the negative campaign style. Candidates would do well to note that trend.

[RCMerchant]

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If the republican party does something shady in taking Trump out... I will NEVER vote republican again! (I won't vote for democrat either... )


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A politictian do something shady??? 
Heaven forfend!

[retrorussell]

http://youtu.be/lsCdD5AUgNA

[RCMerchant]

G'head-build a wall.Chump!

[HappyGilmore]

So far, I'm not really digging anyone.  Except Rand Paul.  

Or...somebody find Henry Rollins and ask him to run. 

[RCMerchant]

The thing is with ALL these a***oles-its all NEGATIVE.
I dont hear JACK s**t what ANYONE  will do that is f**king NICE.
Chump want to get rid of Mexicans-his version of Mein Kampf-Hitler hated Jews-this rich spoiled brat f**ker hates Mexicans-what a wonderful world we live in.
This petty scumbag is actually being considerd as being the leader of the f**king free world.
Good f**king gawd.
We have become a nation of TV ratings.
Its all about presentation.