War with Iran

[lester1/2jr]

WTH is Trump doing?

What are peoples view on this? to me it looks like he stupidly opened a can of worms that won't be shut anytime soon

the US was working with Suleimani fairly recently in iradicating ISIS



My opinion is: thumbs way down: stupid use of military might

[LilCerberus]

Well, on the one hand, Trump has been busy pulling our military out of places we really have no business, & on the other hand, every president from H Bush to the bamster has stepped on the serpent's tail & said mission accomplished as it slithered away while Trump's going for the neck up....

[zelmo73]

WTH is Trump doing?

What are peoples view on this? to me it looks like he stupidly opened a can of worms that won't be shut anytime soon

the US was working with Suleimani fairly recently in iradicating ISIS



My opinion is: thumbs way down: stupid use of military might

You're acting like the Trump Administration did this unprovoked.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-soleimani-insight-idUSKBN1Z301Z



You're also acting like kicking the can down the road for the next President to deal with is a good and sound U.S. policy. The bad part about that policy is that you can only kick the can so far before you come across a U.S. President that is going to decide to kick it back.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-neither-bush-or-obama-killed-iranian-general-qassem-soleimani-2020-1

[lester1/2jr]

Kik what down the road. The Iran deal was signed sealed and delivered. Iran was in the rearview mirror. It was over.

Why do we even have an embassy in Iraq? Iraq war was a total scam I have absolutely no skin in the game of anything with the Middle East whatsoever.

[zelmo73]

Kik what down the road. The Iran deal was signed sealed and delivered. Iran was in the rearview mirror. It was over.

Then why did Iran keep attacking us? Obama's gift of $1.7 billion dollars for free in that so-called Iran "deal" wasn't enough for them? It wasn't money "owed" to them either; criminals don't collect interest on frozen assets; if they were "owed" $400 million dollars then that's what they should have gotten back after taking Americans hostage in 1979.

Why do we even have an embassy in Iraq? Iraq war was a total scam I have absolutely no skin in the game of anything with the Middle East whatsoever.

Pretty much every country has an embassy in every other country. The Iraq war may have been a scam, but everybody has a skin in the game when it comes to the global market. Perhaps you don't remember the price gouging at the gas pump when the invasion of Iraq started, or the Oil For Food Scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil-for-Food_Programme#Abuse, but believe me there was more at stake in Iraq at the time than weapons of mass destruction.

[lester1/2jr]

When did they keep attacking us?  The money was an incentive to get them to sign on. It was hugely popular

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework read the international reactions part

pretty much all our friends and even people who don't like us or weren't included voiced approval. The only entities that didn't were Israel and saudi Arabia, the two most hated countries in the world.

oil for food?  dude this is an ancient talking point the price of oil is not what this was about

Pretty much every country has an embassy in every other country.

why do we have one that is clearly in the the thick of the action in a country we were supposed to have left militarily a long time ago

[Leah]

Relevant
http://youtu.be/zUzd9KyIDrM

[zelmo73]

When did they keep attacking us?

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You typed the guy's name, but it's clear that you haven't even bothered to read up on Suleimani's history. Obama's own Department of Defense labeled the guy a terrorist. You are being willfully ignorant.

[RCMerchant]

For once I agree with Lester.  Maybe not for the same reasons, but yeah-wtf? We should NOT be starting a new war in the Mideast now. Madness. Just pull the f**k out. We still got people in Afghanistan and Iraq- and now this ? f**k all this.

Folks can say-"Let's go to war!" But the folks who say that ain't on the front lines getting shot at.
Will this turn into another drawn out mess like Afghanistan for 10 years or more? This s**t is lasting longer then Vietnam.
It's gonna take more than some moron like Trump to sort that mess out. 

[Allhallowsday]

...
Folks can say-"Let's go to war!" But the folks who say that ain't on the front lines getting shot at.
...

Yeh, like Private Bone Spurs. 

[lester1/2jr]

Zelmo - re read the first post. we worked with the guy to eradicate ISIS.

groups like Hazbollah and Hamas are part of their elective governments. it was al qaeda who attacked us on 9/11 and ISIS who have been rampaging through Europe. Wahabi Muslims educated in Saudi funded mosques

Saudi arabia and Israels problems aren't ours.

at any rate, we didn't kill him because he was a bad guy it was because he was allegedly planning attacks against us.. In the continental US???  London who knows they won't tell us

[lester1/2jr]

Feels like some Jim Jones s*** honestly

[chefzombie]

why did trump do it? because it's the initial step towards declaring himself dictator.

[lester1/2jr]

now he's saying if Iraq kicks us out, which they just voted to do, he'll put sanctions on them. so much for de escalation

[lester1/2jr]

Iran is now launching an attack on US bases in Iraq