Buh bye, Trump

[RCMerchant]

 ^ WTF are you talking about?  

Yeah. Lincoln was a Republican.
And swastikas used to be a symbol of peace!
Or an ad to drink Coca-Cola!
Things change!
Topsy -turvy world, ain't it? 

[Leah]

Technically Lincoln was a Republican, not a conservative/GOPer like most Republicans are today. It's a different party now.

[RCMerchant]

Trump ain't a Republican. He's nuttier than a fruitcake!
And that fruit cake is one of the most inedible things on planet Earth. Everyone agrees it sucks.
How did this fruit cake turn into a tasty food?

[ER]

Maybe indy can back me up here, but speaking strictly in the interests of history and personal curiosity, not modern politics, weren't Republicans liberals in Lincoln's time?

[Allhallowsday]

...Lincoln should be a hero to every American, right or left. No "side" gets to claim him. I think "right" and "left," "conservative" and "liberal" are bulls**t positions, Republican and Democrat are bulls**t parties. It's sad that so many Americans today are more loyal to their side and their party than they are to their country or their ideals.

Here!  Here!

So Trump is still a member of Lincoln's Party that freed the slaves. What exactly are you "here here-ing" about?

Bolded and underlined it for you.

But the same guy also said "Indeed.  Sadly, Lincoln's ghost must contemplate the theory that the worst president is a member of his party." Thank you for showing him his own contradiction. 

Man, it must be hard to go through life dumb.  Read a little closer, Einstein.   You can't read your native tongue. 

[RCMerchant]

Aw, f**k it. He's history. 
Better post your funny Trump gif's and meme's while you can!

[zelmo73]

Maybe indy can back me up here, but speaking strictly in the interests of history and personal curiosity, not modern politics, weren't Republicans liberals in Lincoln's time?

So goes the myth. They were all churchgoers, which is like battery acid to any liberal nowadays.

[RCMerchant]

Boy, you really got a hard on for this guy. Do you owe him money or something?  
Or do you just like his hair? Because you really are in love with this old scumbag con artist?
Or maybe your just being...what did that TV show guy used to call it? The guy-who was on WWF?
Oh yeah-
a sore LOSER.
Let it go, man. Quite being such a crybaby.
Grow up.

[indianasmith]

The Republican Party, at the time of its foundation, was dedicated to stopping the spread of slavery into the national territories and promoting the spread of business and industry across America.  It drew in an odd combination of passionate abolitionists, because national abolition parties had proved a dismal failure and the Republicans were at least determined to stop slavery from spreading, and big industrialists, who found that slavery with the death knell to industry, and many old Whigs and northern Democrats who were sick of the national Democratic party's slavish obedience to the slaveholders of the South.

For a brief period after the Civil War, the Republicans were dominated by "radicals" who wanted full social and legal equality, including voting rights, for blacks.  Then it gradually backpedaled on civil rights and was taken over by the "Old Guard" who were shills for big business.  But the Progressive wing took control of the party again during the administration of Theodore Roosevelt and (to a lesser degree) William Howard Taft.

At any rate, neither political party today bears much resemblance to its 19th century forebears, so such comparisons are frankly foolish and only show an ignorance of history.

[RCMerchant]

^ Indy, your a good man. But trying to explain anything to this guy is like trying to teach a monkey to do  math.
Trump is gone. f**k Trump.
The guy is done and gone.  He won't get re-elected in 2024, because I bet you dollars to donuts  he will-
A. Try and leave the country-because he has LOTS of legal issues here that will cost him money, which he no longer has, because all his banks have dumped him like a hot car, or-
B. He'll be dead. Because, he's real old, and he'll die.

In the mean time-

Buh bye! Nice try, chump!

[zelmo73]

The Republican Party, at the time of its foundation, was dedicated to stopping the spread of slavery into the national territories and promoting the spread of business and industry across America.  It drew in an odd combination of passionate abolitionists, because national abolition parties had proved a dismal failure and the Republicans were at least determined to stop slavery from spreading, and big industrialists, who found that slavery with the death knell to industry, and many old Whigs and northern Democrats who were sick of the national Democratic party's slavish obedience to the slaveholders of the South.

For a brief period after the Civil War, the Republicans were dominated by "radicals" who wanted full social and legal equality, including voting rights, for blacks.  Then it gradually backpedaled on civil rights and was taken over by the "Old Guard" who were shills for big business.  But the Progressive wing took control of the party again during the administration of Theodore Roosevelt and (to a lesser degree) William Howard Taft.

At any rate, neither political party today bears much resemblance to its 19th century forebears, so such comparisons are frankly foolish and only show an ignorance of history.

I doubt the validity of your opinion. The Democrat Party does an exceptionally fine job with exploiting minority groups even today. They've been exploiting minorities ever since their slave-owning days. So to say that the parties have "changed" or "switched" much since the 19th Century is disingenuous at best. You're just painting lipstick on to a pig with that shortsighted statement, friend.

Do Black lives matter to Democrats? As Tim Alberta recently reported, a lot of Black voters think the answer is no. That may explain why the Democrats are blocking the GOP justice reform bill in the Senate: With Black voters already discouraged, Democrats don't want them to get the idea that Republicans may have something to offer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3264946001

[Alex]

Hey Indy, I guess that all your book learning and training was all a complete waste of time then.

[indianasmith]

The Republican Party, at the time of its foundation, was dedicated to stopping the spread of slavery into the national territories and promoting the spread of business and industry across America.  It drew in an odd combination of passionate abolitionists, because national abolition parties had proved a dismal failure and the Republicans were at least determined to stop slavery from spreading, and big industrialists, who found that slavery with the death knell to industry, and many old Whigs and northern Democrats who were sick of the national Democratic party's slavish obedience to the slaveholders of the South.

For a brief period after the Civil War, the Republicans were dominated by "radicals" who wanted full social and legal equality, including voting rights, for blacks.  Then it gradually backpedaled on civil rights and was taken over by the "Old Guard" who were shills for big business.  But the Progressive wing took control of the party again during the administration of Theodore Roosevelt and (to a lesser degree) William Howard Taft.

At any rate, neither political party today bears much resemblance to its 19th century forebears, so such comparisons are frankly foolish and only show an ignorance of history.

And yet it's Republicans waving the Confederate flag and screaming because the South is finally taking down statues of Confederate leaders.
Frankly, sir, your opinion of my opinions means less to me than the fate of an African dung beetle walking down the middle of an elephant trail.

I doubt the validity of your opinion. The Democrat Party does an exceptionally fine job with exploiting minority groups even today. They've been exploiting minorities ever since their slave-owning days. So to say that the parties have "changed" or "switched" much since the 19th Century is disingenuous at best. You're just painting lipstick on to a pig with that shortsighted statement, friend.

Do Black lives matter to Democrats? As Tim Alberta recently reported, a lot of Black voters think the answer is no. That may explain why the Democrats are blocking the GOP justice reform bill in the Senate: With Black voters already discouraged, Democrats don't want them to get the idea that Republicans may have something to offer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3264946001

[zelmo73]

Hey Indy, I guess that all your book learning and training was all a complete waste of time then.

Books and teaching can only offer you so much, especially considering the politics of whomever is doing the writing and teaching. Mein Kampf, for example, is very well-written and articulated, but look who wrote the damned thing.

[RCMerchant]

So you rely on your own ignorance to teach you?  

And just pick and choose what suits your bias bulls**t?

Seems like Mein Kampf would be right up your redneck ally.

You need to relax with your fixation on politics. Watch a cartoon or listen to some smooth jazz.
Mellow the f**k out. Relax, man.