Texas seceding?

Rev. Powell · March 17, 2021, 09:56:17 AM

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/02/01/texas-secession-bill-formally-filed-in-state-legislature/

I'll offer 1000-1 odds on Texas successfully seceding. (That's an excellent bargain, because the actual odds are probably more like 1,000,000-1).

ER · March 17, 2021, 10:10:20 AM

Ick, we'd all get so tired of hearing Oklahomans brag about their international border.

On a brighter note, that certainly would decrease the number of tornadoes per year in the United States.

Oh! We could also kick the Cowboys out of the NFL!

I am starting to warm to this idea....

Rev. Powell · March 17, 2021, 11:43:40 AM

It will never happen, but I'd be for it. It would increase the number of foreign countries I've been too. I would no longer share a country with Ted Cruz. Texas BBQ would be an exotic ethnic cuisine. I would have a degree from a foreign country.

ER · March 17, 2021, 02:35:10 PM

And PBS could start showing Dallas reruns as a foreign series, though Barney would also not be a US citizen. But boy would the NRA's donation base go down.

indianasmith · March 17, 2021, 07:27:47 PM

The last time we did that, it didn't work out very well . . .

pacman000 · March 17, 2021, 08:09:14 PM

Yes, but this time we don't have to join another "country."

And they gave up before Texas!

Then again, it seems TX was largely ignored in that war, with most of the fighting happening in the south eastern part of the U.S.

(This is meant in jest; I do not condone succession.)

LilCerberus · March 17, 2021, 08:29:05 PM

Some people are talking of throwing out another "relic of the civil war", & having Virginia secede to West Virginia...
But if they did that, they'd only take the western half of the state with them...

I live right on the border between the city & the county, & if this went through, I'd find myself living on the border ...Eh...

I always feel like I'm on the wrong side of the tracks, no matter where I'm at!

Rev. Powell · March 17, 2021, 08:39:01 PM

Quote from: pacman000 on March 17, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
Yes, but this time we don't have to join another "country." And they gave up before Texas!

Then again, it seems TX was largely ignored in that war, with most of the fighting happening in the south eastern part of the U.S.

(This is meant in jest; I do not condone succession.)

After the Civil War in 1868, Texas again tried to secede and become an independent country and the Supreme Court said "nope."

pacman000 · March 17, 2021, 08:45:36 PM

Knew that they sued, but didn't know they were trying to secede again. I thought they were trying to get money for loosing the Civil War. Might be interesting to read up on that...

ER · March 17, 2021, 11:23:08 PM

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

---John Herington

RCMerchant · March 17, 2021, 11:36:34 PM

If they wanna leave- let 'em! If that's what they want.
But they will have to pay some kinda tax on things they buy from the 49 they left behind, and everyone saw how that ended up when it snowed. Everything they would buy from the grocery store would skyrocket.
Otherwise! See ya!
I think this is more moron politics BS than it has to do with the average citizen.

indianasmith · March 18, 2021, 06:32:34 AM

Quote from: Rev. Powell on March 17, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: pacman000 on March 17, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
Yes, but this time we don't have to join another "country." And they gave up before Texas!

Then again, it seems TX was largely ignored in that war, with most of the fighting happening in the south eastern part of the U.S.

(This is meant in jest; I do not condone succession.)

After the Civil War in 1868, Texas again tried to secede and become an independent country and the Supreme Court said "nope."

Never heard of this; can you drop a link or some documentation?

Rev. Powell · March 18, 2021, 07:51:59 AM

You guys are correct, I misstated Texas vs. White. https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/74us700

The reasoning (which is the part of the case people always discuss) says that Texas could not leave the Union on its own--but recovery of war bonds was the reason the suit was before the court, not attempted secession. My bad.

LilCerberus · March 18, 2021, 01:34:42 PM

Heard somewhere that secession is in the Texas state constitution.......

Me, while I live in a heavily jerrymandered state where two counties next to D.C. decide which way the rest of the state's gonna go every election, it's still comforting to know we still have a clean safe, and above all, reliable nuclear power plant...

indianasmith · March 18, 2021, 04:54:53 PM

Quote from: LilCerberus on March 18, 2021, 01:34:42 PM
Heard somewhere that secession is in the Texas state constitution.......

Me, while I live in a heavily jerrymandered state where two counties next to D.C. decide which way the rest of the state's gonna go every election, it's still comforting to know we still have a clean safe, and above all, reliable nuclear power plant...

That's a common misconception; what it refers to is the clause in the Joint Resolution that annexed Texas to the Union. There it was said that Texas could, by popular vote, choose to split into as many as five smaller states. Secession was never mentioned. Texas did not officially split up, but in 1850 we sold the Federal Government about half of the territory we claimed, parts of which are now in New Mexico, Oklahoma, Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming.