Movies that you never "got"?

[Trevor]

Who's that guy who did the SHAPE OF WATER? Not a fan of his films either.

Guillermo Del Toro (I think) 🙂🐢

[Trevor]

Except for SKYFALL, I never got Daniel Craig as James Bong.

[zombie no.one]

James Bong.

License to chill?

I agree, said it many times on here that DC has the aura of a Bond villain... kinda ironic for a Bond.

I think I read Henry Cavill was first choice but they eventually decided he was too young? would've fit the role way better imo

[Dr. Whom]

Except for SKYFALL, I never got Daniel Craig as James Bong.

Well, I never saw the attraction of the Bond series as a whole. I mean, I don't dislike them, but I don't see what the fuss is all about.

[zombie no.one]

Except for SKYFALL, I never got Daniel Craig as James Bong.

Well, I never saw the attraction of the Bond series as a whole. I mean, I don't dislike them, but I don't see what the fuss is all about.

I think they're a good mix of cheesy derring-do and classic '1 man vs the world' heroic escapism... although it's kind of uneven taken as a whole. GOLDFINGER is a very different film to DIE ANOTHER DAY, for example.

[LordGraal]

Well, I never saw the attraction of the Bond series as a whole. I mean, I don't dislike them, but I don't see what the fuss is all about.

Tend to agree but growing up with the Roger Moore films didn't help.  Craig's Casino Royale and License to Kill are the only Bond films I've watched multiple times as they're different to the others.  Particularly CR as it doesn't have the tired tropes.  I liked Timothy Dalton but the Brosnan films left me cold.  Those and the Moore films seemed like a waste of money as they're so retro and cliched.

[HappyGilmore]

had read Michael Tolkin's book a couple years earlier, had loved it, and still do - Altman had no grasp whatsoever on the subtle and bittersweet tone of the book and just made it a cheap nasty comedy, bleh.

on that note, AMERICAN PSYCHO... I read the book before the film came out and what's funny is I distinctly remember thinking multiple times throughout reading it, "please never let anyone try and make a film out of this"... not even Scorcese, or Coen brothers.

it actually took me until about 10 years ago to muster up the [whatever the word is] to watch the film, and it is like the polar opposite of how I interpreted the book. it couldn't have been more 'wrong', IMO

my main gripe is that the satire in the book is intensely deadpan, and I did not get any jokey vibes from Patrick Bateman as a character... in the film he is borderline a clown, and the whole thing looks like it's almost trying to be a musical / outlandish stage production!

I'm almost afraid to read the book. I love the film, but I know if I read it I'll end up hating the film.

The book's writer also wrote Less Than Zero. They made a film in the 80s. He disliked the film overall but praised Robert Downey Jr for his performance. I'm my sure which I like more.

[zombie no.one]

I'm almost afraid to read the book. I love the film, but I know if I read it I'll end up hating the film.

I'm almost afraid to read any of Bret Easton Ellis's other books 

I remember frequently having to put AMERICAN PSYCHO down and walk around the room a bit before continuing !

[HappyGilmore]

I'm almost afraid to read the book. I love the film, but I know if I read it I'll end up hating the film.

I'm almost afraid to read any of Bret Easton Ellis's other books 

I remember frequently having to put AMERICAN PSYCHO down and walk around the room a bit before continuing !

I've only read Less Than Zero and it's sequel Imperial Bedrooms.

I borrowed another from the library but never got to it and returned it

[lester1/2jr]

I read American Psycho in high school when it came out. I wasn't that impressed with the movie. I heard some restaurant in New York tried to make a bunch of the weird dishes he named.

[M.10rda]

"American Psycho" is his best novel by a landslide. It was his third.

"Rules Of Attraction" is also excellent, though - that was his second novel - and I hate the film of that, as well. 

"Less Than Zero" was his debut, and I like it well enough. I've never seen the movie, but made as it was amidst the Brat Pack cycle and starring many of its constituents, I suspect it may also mislay some of the darker and weird elements of the novel...

After "Psycho" he wrote two consecutive books of quality - "The Informers", a strong anthology of shorts, which I think also got turned into a film at some point, and "Glamorama", a huge surreal thriller that feels like Ellis got nervous about David Foster Wallace and Chuck Palahniuk and felt the need to write a hysterical meta-fiction epic to stay relevant. (...As if "Psycho" wasn't sufficiently hysterical and meta...) It gets a little lost up its own butt, yet there are many flashes of the same wild humor from the earlier books, like the narrator spotting Janeane Garofalo having brunch with Jason Voorhees. Someone was going to make a GLAMORAMA movie, but after 9/11 it seemed impossible. It's probably possible now, but I don't think anyone cares.

After that I read at least 2 or possibly three more Ellis novels. Each successive one seems more like conscious self-parody, though who knows how conscious Ellis is. He seems to invest more time in public performance art (mostly via podcasting) where he makes lurid, improbable statements... like excusing the behavior of right-wing child predators, stuff like that... the sorts of things you'd expect Patrick Bateman to say. Kinda' makes it hard to defend "American Psycho" in many circles, just as it's hard to defend, I dunno, "The Fountainhead".  Thank God for Barthes' Death Of The Author theory!

[LilCerberus]

Casshern

[zombie no.one]

After that I read at least 2 or possibly three more Ellis novels. Each successive one seems more like conscious self-parody, though who knows how conscious Ellis is.

just remembered this interview where he gets trolled. not sure if he realises?

https://youtu.be/i7o8ICoMGfc?si=BjT42Xepl6oXKVy6