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Started by Trevor, June 07, 2025, 01:24:48 PM

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M.10rda

After the first 5 or so years of being exclusively a Spider-Man villain, Venom has had a pretty long career in comics independent of Spidey....... he's had many comics of his own where Spidey doesn't appear etc... so has Morbius, though he wasn't ever nearly as popular or successful a solo act as Venom.

Kraven, though... isn't much outside of Spider-Man comics....... and Madame Web isn't much even in Spider-Man comics. Those were particularly perplexing choices for solo flicks. If they wanted a female vehicle, Sony could have done a Black Cat movie or a Silver Sable movie... both of them are actual "things" in comics and the former has a particularly big following... or a Spider-Woman movie (one of the Spider-Women is in MADAME WEB in a supporting role... maybe Sony just wasn't allowed to use the name in a title).

HappyGilmore

I mean, yeah, I can agree about Venom, so I could give that one a pass.

Still would've liked some interactions of some kind, even a cameo. Madame Web was used a bit on the 90s tv series.

I'm not sure how long we're getting Spider-Man in the MCU. There's a fourth film in the works and two more Avengers coming in the next year or two. I'd assume it's done after that?
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M.10rda

Tom Holland will eventually retire as Peter Parker but there are plans to introduce "Miles Morales" from the animated films in the live-action universe, probably through the next AVENGERS multiverse-hopping film, and then we will get live-action Spider-Miles movies for as long as they make money, or Spider-Gwen, or Penny (?) Parker, who is Peter's Spider-Daughter from some alternate dimension. Disney won't abandon a character as long as they pay dividends.......

HappyGilmore

I love Miles Morales, so I'd dig it if they do that.

There was the clone storyline back in the 90s, and Ben Reilly was Spider-Man for a bit with a pretty decent costume upgrade. I don't think they'd adapt it, but I'd settle for an animated series.
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chainsaw midget

Quote from: M.10rda on June 15, 2025, 09:59:16 PMKraven, though... isn't much outside of Spider-Man comics....... and Madame Web isn't much even in Spider-Man comics. Those were particularly perplexing choices for solo flicks. If they wanted a female vehicle, Sony could have done a Black Cat movie or a Silver Sable movie... both of them are actual "things" in comics and the former has a particularly big following... or a Spider-Woman movie (one of the Spider-Women is in MADAME WEB in a supporting role... maybe Sony just wasn't allowed to use the name in a title).
Silver Sable and Black Cat (together as a team) was one of the movies Sony had up in the air before it decided to just stop doing Spider-man spinoffs. 

Quote from: M.10rda on June 16, 2025, 06:53:10 AMTom Holland will eventually retire as Peter Parker but there are plans to introduce "Miles Morales" from the animated films in the live-action universe, probably through the next AVENGERS multiverse-hopping film, and then we will get live-action Spider-Miles movies for as long as they make money, or Spider-Gwen, or Penny (?) Parker, who is Peter's Spider-Daughter from some alternate dimension. Disney won't abandon a character as long as they pay dividends.......
Peni Parker is actually an alternate universe Peter Parker ... from a universe where he/she's an anime girl that pilots a giant robot.  The entire cast of Evangelion can be seen in the backgrounds as her classmates in the comics. 

May "Mayday" Parker is the alternate reality/possible future daughter of Spider-man from a world where Spider-man lost his leg in a battle with the Green Goblin and was forced into retirement.  Spider-girl's comic series lasted over 100 issues, making it the lost female lead Marvel series EVER. 

Sorry.  Huge comic nerd.  I'll shut up now. 

HappyGilmore

Quote from: chainsaw midget on June 16, 2025, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: M.10rda on June 15, 2025, 09:59:16 PMKraven, though... isn't much outside of Spider-Man comics....... and Madame Web isn't much even in Spider-Man comics. Those were particularly perplexing choices for solo flicks. If they wanted a female vehicle, Sony could have done a Black Cat movie or a Silver Sable movie... both of them are actual "things" in comics and the former has a particularly big following... or a Spider-Woman movie (one of the Spider-Women is in MADAME WEB in a supporting role... maybe Sony just wasn't allowed to use the name in a title).
Silver Sable and Black Cat (together as a team) was one of the movies Sony had up in the air before it decided to just stop doing Spider-man spinoffs. 

Quote from: M.10rda on June 16, 2025, 06:53:10 AMTom Holland will eventually retire as Peter Parker but there are plans to introduce "Miles Morales" from the animated films in the live-action universe, probably through the next AVENGERS multiverse-hopping film, and then we will get live-action Spider-Miles movies for as long as they make money, or Spider-Gwen, or Penny (?) Parker, who is Peter's Spider-Daughter from some alternate dimension. Disney won't abandon a character as long as they pay dividends.......
Peni Parker is actually an alternate universe Peter Parker ... from a universe where he/she's an anime girl that pilots a giant robot.  The entire cast of Evangelion can be seen in the backgrounds as her classmates in the comics. 

May "Mayday" Parker is the alternate reality/possible future daughter of Spider-man from a world where Spider-man lost his leg in a battle with the Green Goblin and was forced into retirement.  Spider-girl's comic series lasted over 100 issues, making it the lost female lead Marvel series EVER. 

Sorry.  Huge comic nerd.  I'll shut up now. 
Anyway Sadie Sink is playing Mayday Parker in the next movie? She's been cast, but in an unannounced role. Could be Mary Jane, Firestar...Gwen Stacy if she dies her hair blonde.
"The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell."

Don't get too close, it's dark inside.
It's where my demons hide, it's where my demons hide.

M.10rda

Cheers to you, Chainsaw! Thanks for correcting the record on the Spider-Girls! Yay for comics!  :thumbup:  :cheers:

Yeah, I heard something about Sadie Sink, too... STRANGER THINGS S5's loss is the Avengerverse's gain!

HappyGilmore

Sadie is a great actress. I hope whichever character she ends up with is decently written. Marvel has been a bit iffy since Endgame.
"The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell."

Don't get too close, it's dark inside.
It's where my demons hide, it's where my demons hide.

M.10rda

Yes... I thought GOTG3 was great and S-M:NO WAY HOME was okay... AGATHA ALL ALONG was interesting for the most part... beyond that I've been quite discouraged by the last 6 (!) years of stuff. I will watch CAP 4 and THUNDERBOLTS eventually...

HappyGilmore

I forgot about No Way Home and Guardians 3. They were pretty good.

Post them...I enjoyed Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye. Don't have Disney+ anymore so I missed the other series.

They had a good run. I'm curious about Fantastic Four. I know it leads into the Avengers sequel and the X-Men will be involved.
"The path to Heaven runs through miles of clouded Hell."

Don't get too close, it's dark inside.
It's where my demons hide, it's where my demons hide.

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I've never seen BILLY MADISON but aside from a few funny moments, HIGH ANXIETY was a bit cringe for me especially where the Doctor is delivering an explicit lecture and he sees there are young ones in the audience. 😳
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zombie no.one

never 'got' HEAT

I love GOODFELLAS and CASINO, and a bunch of other mid 90s crime type flicks like FARGO and USUAL SUSPECTS (the 4 movies I just mentioned would be in my top 10 movies of  all time)  but I've never made it to the end of HEAT, after 4 or 5 attempts. doesn't grab me at all... people are/were obsessed with this film though!

zombie no.one

struggling to figure out exactly what there is to 'get' about BILLY MADISON in the first place. not exactly haute cinema is it  :bouncegiggle:

Rev. Powell

Quote from: zombie no.one on Today at 05:05:20 PMnever 'got' HEAT

I love GOODFELLAS and CASINO, and a bunch of other mid 90s crime type flicks like FARGO and USUAL SUSPECTS (the 4 movies I just mentioned would be in my top 10 movies of  all time)  but I've never made it to the end of HEAT, after 4 or 5 attempts. doesn't grab me at all... people are/were obsessed with this film though!

I agree with you about HEAT; once was enough for me and I have no desire to revisit it.
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