Films with questionable messages

[Chadzilla]

I detest Forrest Gump with a passion, how can so many people embrace a movie that preaches that to be successful in America you need to be a kowtowing illiterate babbling moron!

Mr. President, can you answer that question for me?  Please.

[Perk]

The only reason I watched Home alone 2 was because of the movie they showed in part one.  Rat bait i think it was called.  
"I'm gonna give ya, to the count of ten, to get your ugly, yella, no-good keester off my property. Before I pump your guts fulla lead. One, two, ten!
[pumps Gangster 'Snakes' guts fulla lead] .  Keep the change you filthy animal"

Then in part two they had
"I believe you, but my tommy gun don't.  that's why I'm giving you to the count of three to get your lousy lying no good carcass off my face.  One, two, (shoots the woman up) three.  Merry Christmas you filthy animal.  (Shoots some more) And a happy New Year. (shoots one more time.

Maybe the real message behind these movies was never let a gangster count past one.

[Fearless Freep]

Home Alone 1 & 2

It's really no big deal when parents *twice* abandon their young son due to negligence.

If that really happened even once, the parents would be up on charges and the kid would be in a foster home (and probably the other kids as well).

[AndyC]

How could I have forgotten the movie that teaches us how wonderful and romantic adultery is, and that people who disapprove of it are a bunch of intolerant bastards.

Near as I can tell, we're supposed to feel sorry for this woman who jumped into bed with a guy she just met while her husband was out of town with the kids. We're supposed to be rooting for her to leave the poor guy because in spite of being a good provider and a faithful, responsible husband and father, he's (horror of horrors) a little boring. But she stays, and we're supposed to feel sorry for her.

Frankly, when I watch that scene where an extremely whiny Clint Eastwood begs her to leave her husband, it sickens me. This selfish a***ole, who thinks only of his immediate wants and doesn't care who he hurts, is presented as the better choice for her.

[Dano]

How could I have forgotten the movie that teaches us how wonderful and romantic adultery is, and that people who disapprove of it are a bunch of intolerant bastards.

**** Ahh, the double standard.  Whenever a man in a movie cheats, he's a pathetic insecure piece of crap who doesn't deserve his wife anyway - and it's always his fault that the relationship wasn't working.  Whenever a woman cheats, it's a romantic and liberating experience - and it's always her husband's fault the relationship wasn't working.  

I guess they know who goes to see movies about extramarital affairs.

[Chadzilla]

I don't know, I liked the movie (and felt Eastwood was robbed of a best director Oscar nomination, the scene in the rain is just a beautifully handled moment - not to mention the first time the two actually kiss).

Lots of people disliked the movies 'message', but over look that in the end she did the right thing.  She stayed.

Then again I liked the movie and found it very romantic, it's one of the few of its kind that I'd watch again and again.

[Akira Tubo]

What I took from Madison County is that she *knew* Eastwood's char was an a***ole and that she was only in lust with him.  She *knew* her husband wasn't really a bad guy and didn't really want to leave him.

[Luke Bannon]

Star Trek V- Kirk is the only compotent member of the enterprise's crew.
Star Wars Attack of the Clones- even if you are a total whiny a***ole (Anakin) you'll still end up marrying the woman of your dreams.

[AndyC]

The message I got from Episode I is that a woman in love is willing to overlook many flaws in a man, such as some obvious fascist leanings and the fact that he slaughtered an entire village of sand people, including women and children, in a rage. She actually took the latter pretty lightly, considering what a compassionate and conscientious character she's supposed to be.

[Akira Tubo]

Actually, she only really fell for him *after* he killed the Tusken village.  She was a bit cold toward him until he confessed to killing all the women and children, then she was like, "Oh!  Anakin!"

Creepy.

[chris]

I think in "Do the Right Thing", it's more of a statement on race relations than a message.  I thought the same thing too after first watching it, but viewed as a statement on racial tolerance and as a time-bomb about to explode, and the hate and double standards a lot of people have, it's a masterpiece.  However, Lee grew up a lot when he made Clockers, which seemed to say everyone should take responsiblity for their own actions, and sometimes being liberal minded is more racist than anything.

[J.R.]

I was just thinking about that scene- potentially one of the the most powerful moments in the Star Wars saga- ruined because the kids couldn't act (or George Lucas can't direct, I don't know).

Bulworth- The only way to level the playing field between the rich and the poor is socialism. That's it. Hey, this isn't Canada, Beatty!

[AndyC]

Akira Tubo wrote:
>
> Actually, she only really fell for him *after* he killed the
> Tusken village.  She was a bit cold toward him until he
> confessed to killing all the women and children, then she was
> like, "Oh!  Anakin!"

Maybe they could recast the next movie with Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis as Anakin and Padme. They could go on a killing spree across the galaxy together.

[Fearless Freep]

>George Lucas can't direct, I don't know)

Mark Hamill in Star Wars vs Mark Hamill in anything else is my evidence that Lucas *can* direct :)

[KJ]

I'm too lazy to go through the entire thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned...

Signs: Atheism and skepticism bad. Blind faith GOOD!

That's how the ending came across to me. Being the filthy atheist I am, I'd have to disagree.