Films where

[Mofo Rising]

I was just reminded of THE HIT, with Terence Stamp and John Hurt.  The problem there is that movie never really has any good guys in it.

[wheresthecarrot]

Ocean's 11....the good guys are the bad guys.....so I dunno....I lot of Westerns are like that too, where the bad guy is the good guy kinda thing...like a Robin Hood sort of story.

[BoyScoutKevin]

Interesting topic, though there is one genera of film that no one has yet mentioned. That is the war film. It is perhaps amazing in how many war films the bad guys (i.e the enemy) wins. The classic example being "The Alamo."
Even in the midst of WWII, the Americans were making war films, such as "Bataan" and "Wake Island," where the enemy won.
That would continue with "A Bridge Too Far," where the Americans and Brits lose, and the Germans win. Of course, there is also the reverse. "An Eagle Has Landed," where the Germans are the good guys and the Americans and Brits are the bad giys, but, the result is the same. The good guys lose.
And not only WWII. There is "Glory" and "They Died with their Boots On." In the latter,
sometimes Custer is the bad guy and the Indians are the good guys, but, in this one,
Custer is the good guy, and he loses at the Battle of the Little Big Horn.
Americans are not the only ones to make these films. The French made "The Messenger" about Joan of Arc, and she lost. And the Australians made "Gallipoli," which was a big loss for the Australians during WWI.
Though, sometimes in these films, it is hard to tell who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. "Waterloo." The Allies under Wellington and Blucher who won, or the French under Napoleon who lost. And "Zulu Dawn." The black natives who won, or the white colonials who lost.
There is also the historical film. Perhaps surprising how many films have been made about losers This dates back at least as far to D. W. Griffith's "Intolerance," in which in at least three of the four segments of the film, the bad guys win.  "The Bounty" In a role reversal, Bligh (Anthony Hopkins) is the good guy, and Christian (Mel Gibson) is the bad guy.Also "Lady Jane," "The Mission," and "Nicholas and Alexandria."
Of course, if one knows one's history, none of these are surprising.
Outside of these, I can think of "1984," where the forces of repression win. "Seconds." where Rock Hudson dies. And "Wicker Man." The last is something of a question mark.  Who are the bad guys? The policeman from the mainland or the pagans on the island.
As for the "Omen" trilogy, though the Devil wins in the first two in the series, he loses in the third and final part of the series. Enjoy!

[ABPOS]

while those amuse me, films where the main character dies is my favorite. my fav example is An American Werewolf in London

[ABPOS]

Bram Stokers Dracula. i love that movies, but damnit, he dies  =(   and evil wins

[AndyC]

I forgot about Falling Down. Bill Foster doesn't realize until the end that he's not the good guy. Neither do we, really, because we sympathize with him so much, at least until he really goes off the deep end.

I suppose Prendergast would be considered the good guy, and he did come out on top.

This type of movie isn't really about good guys and bad guys anyway.

[JohnL]

>"The Lone Gunmen" NEVER cancel a series on a cliffhanger. At least run the
>episode that wraps it up!

Except that there was no episode that wrapped it up. That was all that they filmed. I do agree that they should never end a season on a cliffhanger unless they have a guarantee that the show will be back next season.

The Collector is another one. Samantha Eggar dies and he goes out to kidnap another girl.

[AndyC]

JohnL wrote:
>
> I do agree that they should never end a
> season on a cliffhanger unless they have a guarantee that the
> show will be back next season.

Or at least film both halves. It might not be entirely practical when bridging two seasons, but two-parters really ought to be done all at once.

[Deena]

Would Rocky Horror count?  I mean Riff Raff did kill the beloved Frankenfurter and Rocky.  He just about killed the a***ole and slut too.

Deena

P.S. Love your end quote Joe Bob, it's classic

[wheresthecarrot]

Nope, in that one, Frank-n-furter is considered the bad guy, cause he was corrupting earthlings.  It was riff raff and magenta's job to eliminate him as a threat and return home....as doctor scot says about them, "You did right, society must be protected."