Admit it, you would do the same thing

[Funk, E.]

To be perfectly honest if I thought I was about to die I would be too busy to f**k and I definateky cannot perform under that sort of pressure :-)

[Andrew]

Most maniac killers would be too easy to deal with if I have some of my normal buddies around.  Standard room clearing operations at that point and I would definitely be in the front with either my defender 12-gauge or .45.

I do admit that, faced with a weird killer monster from outer space, I would probably try some inventive solutions if gunfire did not work.  Fire, electrocution, household cleaners, and extreme cold are on the list.  By the way, extreme cold does not mean a fire extinguisher, it means liquid nitrogen.  If only I kept that on hand for emergencies...

[AndyC]

Not sure if Andrew's skill wouldn't work against him. In horror movies, soldiers, cops and such seem to have a harder time than anyone. They tend to either go noisily, with guns blazing, or get caught off guard after bragging. The killer/monster's powers also seem to increase with the formal training of the adversary. Cop empties a clip into the killer and gets broken in half, while bookish teenage girl sends the killer falling to his death with a half-assed shove.

[Damien01]

AndyC wrote:

> Not sure if Andrew's skill wouldn't work against him. In horror
> movies, soldiers, cops and such seem to have a harder time than
> anyone. They tend to either go noisily, with guns blazing, or
> get caught off guard after bragging. The killer/monster's
> powers also seem to increase with the formal training of the
> adversary. Cop empties a clip into the killer and gets broken
> in half, while bookish teenage girl sends the killer falling to
> his death with a half-assed shove.
>
>

I think I would make sure we have a bookish teenage girl within our group... and that shove... :D

[Fearless Freep]

Most maniac killers would be too easy to deal with if I have some of my normal buddies around

Dude, you're a grunt with a wife and newborn kid.  You are so toast.  By movie logic rules, you might as well make at your Last Will right now

[Andrew]

Fearless Freep wrote:

> Most maniac killers would be too easy to deal with if I have
> some of my normal buddies around
>
> Dude, you're a grunt with a wife and newborn kid.  You are so
> toast.  By movie logic rules, you might as well make at your
> Last Will right now

I had thought of that.  The good thing is that I taught Katie how to shoot.  In keeping with movie roles, she will avenge my death by blasting the killer to pieces.  Or maybe get inventive, like shooting his legs out and then using a big metal press or a lawnmower.

[Brother Ragnarok]

The bookish girl could serve a dual purpose, too.  First off, she's the obvious virginal prophecy-fulfilling whatever to stop the monster.  Secondly, you KNOW the bookish ones are always by FAR the hottest once their hair is down, so there's the sex bit too.  
I'm just glad no one said anything about the killer him/itself getting their hormones going.

Brother R

[Fearless Freep]

I had thought of that. The good thing is that I taught Katie how to shoot. In keeping with movie roles, she will avenge my death ...

Ahh...thinking ahead.

'course, I'm a professional computer programmer so I don't think my life expectancy goes past the first reel, either

[Funk, E.]

Nuke it from orbit... That's the only way to be sure.

Standard homocidal maniacs wouldn't last long in the real world, except for the clever ones that actually exist in the real world, but some machette wielding freak on a rampage would get put down pretty quickly. It's the supernatural, death what's that? type of homocidal maniac that's a b***h. I think Andrew's Liquid Nitrogen is the way to go. Molecules at absolute zero DO NOT MOVE! There isn't a single none thermonuclear thing in the universe immune to that sort of cold.

[Evan3]

Funk, E. wrote:

> Nuke it from orbit... That's the only way to be sure.
>
> Standard homocidal maniacs wouldn't last long in the real
> world, except for the clever ones that actually exist in the
> real world, but some machette wielding freak on a rampage would
> get put down pretty quickly. It's the supernatural, death
> what's that? type of homocidal maniac that's a b***h. I think
> Andrew's Liquid Nitrogen is the way to go. Molecules at
> absolute zero DO NOT MOVE! There isn't a single none
> thermonuclear thing in the universe immune to that sort of
> cold.


Hey even liquid nitrogen fell short in stopping the T-1000 in Terminator 2.
Also, I always suspect most psycho/ machete wielding killers are hopped up, and that is why guns are so ineffective, If you are wired on speed or something, nothing will slow you down.

Also, Andrew, do you actually know any military types who would actually be as useless in life as they seem to be in movies?? It seems to me most town cops suffer from an overdose of cynicism.

[Fearless Freep]

If you are wired on speed or something, nothing will slow you down.

Adrenaline and drugs can overcome pain.  Adrenaline and drugs cannot overcome major tissue and internal organ damage

[Funk, E.]

The only drug know to supress pain enough to allow people to behave in an "unstoppable" fashion is PCP. Shoot somebody on speed and it'll drop 'em.
T2 had the exception of having the T1000 frozen next to a metal foundry. They should have run up to the pieces and started chucking them into the melted steel right then instead of waiting for it to thaw out and reform.

[Flangepart]

Face it. The scriptwriter is a wuss. He resents the fact that guys like Andrew can break him in half with one good bicept flex.
True, haveing the big bad alien bust up a S.W.A.T. team makes him seem dangerious...but after that, you better come up with a realy inventive suprise for offing the wee beastie, or i'm gonna call foul!
And no, the blind parapalegic multipule amputee can't do it with a shove over the railing! Suicide bomb maby, but no fisticuffs.
As for other wise human psychos....just use enough gun. I reccomend at least 6 rounds of 3inch 12 gage .00 buck. Plus one to the head.

[JohnL]

>Don't go for the organs, do some damage that will inhibit movement.

I actually though of this while watching Cast a Deadly Spell and the Zombie is coming toward Fred Ward. A couple of shotgun blasts to the knees would have at least slowed him down enough to be easily avoidable. Christian Slater does something similar to the mummy in the Tales from the Darkside movie.

[Andrew]

JohnL wrote:

> >Don't go for the organs, do some damage that will inhibit
> movement.
>
> I actually though of this while watching Cast a Deadly Spell
> and the Zombie is coming toward Fred Ward. A couple of shotgun
> blasts to the knees would have at least slowed him down enough
> to be easily avoidable. Christian Slater does something similar
> to the mummy in the Tales from the Darkside movie.

For some reason, zombies seem best handled by either a shotgun or a big old axe.  A heavy sword with a keen edge wouldn't be bad either.

Of course, a modern armored force could just run them over.  Whatever was left behind after a main battle tank rolled over a zombie would be pretty mushed.