The matrix movies

[TheEvilDoctor]

I think this has been discussed before (it has been on every goddamn forum I have ever laid my eyes on) but with the dvd-release of revolutions just yesterday back here in Holland, I would like to bring this up.

I for one, enjoyed the matrix part 1 to the point where I told people it was my 'favourite movie of the past 10 years'. I was trilled to hear there would be not just 1 sequel, but even 2!
I was a bit sceptic when I entered the cinema, and I ended up a bit disappointed after watching reloaded. I went to see it again, and another time just to make sure. It was a nice flick, bent a lot more on action then on actual storyline than the predecessor. I think the part that put me off the most was not 'looking like part 1'. It looked like a new film while I half expected (and maybe WANTED) it to be like part 1.
I bought it on DVD anyway.
Then revolutions came, and I of course went to see it and ended up liking it again. Why? Maybe because I half expected it to be like reloaded? Yes, I think that's the reason.
What I'm trying to say is: People tend to bash these movies, I think people dislike the 2 sequels to the matrix because they don't follow the 1st part (which most people like) and just set their own style, unlike LOTR which was filmed all at once, the matrix had an older predecessor and 2 follow-ups which were filmed at once. My guess is the people responsible for part 1 didn't expect it to become such a hit and when they found out people liked their movie, THEN they came up with ideas for a sequel.

Part 2 and 3 seem to be more action-oriented flicks (I like to compare them to terminator 2 which also has some quasi-philosofical content) and part 1 was more of a thriller-type movie with some action, which focussed more on the plot. People tend to bash 2 and 3 because of the MASSES of 'deep' content they get thrown at them but miss the point: It's just an actionflick with some philosofy.

I ended up liking the entire trilogy.
What's your opinion?

[maria paula]

i  do have a problem?? i dont like the firts part of matrix. i guess i do

[Brother Ragnarok]

You don't have a problem, Maria.  I loathe the Matrix and its drooling hacker fanboy followers.  Kill 'em all, I say.  Well, okay, maybe not kill, but scold thoroughly :P

Brother R



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[nobody]

I could also do without "The Matrix." I thought it tried to be too philosophical (with a stupid, unintelligable storyline). And I found the story to be full of holes.

[Ash]

I love all 3 of them and will be buying the entire trilogy when Revolutions comes out next week.

[dirtcreature]

There may just be a few holes in the plot, but if you noticed them too much, well, that's just a glich in The Matrix... :o)

I liked them. The Wachowski Brothers wanted to make a superhero film of their own design. People who haven't got what it takes to do the same (hell, even low budget dross makers at least can say they had a go!) just become critics.

One point that Morpheus could've raised to defend against Smiths' interrogation when Smith said that Humans are a virus...

"If we are a virus and we originally created the machines that made the Matrix, that makes you a by-product of a by-product of a virus. Man, I'd hate to be feeling as useless as you, right now!"

[The Burgomaster]

I can't understand the appeal of the Matrix.  I have parts 1 and 2 on DVD (although, part 2 is still wrapped and gathering dust), and I will certainly buy part 3.  But I don't know why.  Maybe because I have that innate male flaw of needing to own movies where people shoot guns and things explode.

The only one I saw in the theater was part 2.  About 30 minutes into the movie I asked myself, "What am I doing here?"  But I bought the DVD anyway.

[Bgrade]

Yep, they all suck. For a movie that is said to be original it sure thin and hollywood cliche.

Is it time to go to the Rave yet?

[Gecko Brothers]

I liked the first one a little bit. I really loved the third one. They aren't the next Star Wars for this generation, though.

[trekgeezer]

The first one I liked, because at the time it was different.  The last two to tell you truth I can't  remember how they ended.  They were kind of more of the same  thing only louder.

[jmc]

I saw the first one not too long ago and didn't really think much of it.  It just seemed like a variation on the cyberpunk stuff that had been floating around since the late eighties/early nineties.  I guess the technology maybe finally got the point where they could make better movies out of those kind of stories [anyone remember JOHNNY MNEMONIC?] but by the late nineties the ideas seemed kind of tired and played out.

[daveblackeye15]

I like all three. I wouldn't call the 2nd and 3rd movies "great" movies but I think they're defenatly "good" movies that I had a lot of fun watching. The first one is my favorite but the other two tie in for second place.

[Mr. Hockstatter]

I've only seen the first movie.  I thought it was just okay, no great shakes.  It started out pretty well, rather mysterious - who is this guy who knows everything?  Is he right in the room?  Huh?  That was cool.  But the rest of it just descended into very average effects-laden sci-fi.  Yeah, it had the Twilight Zone plot goin', big deal.  

I didn't really care too much about the characters, and those slow-mo fight scenes with the camera panning around got tiresome after about 10 seconds.  

I dunno.  Didn't really care for it.

[-=NiGHTS=-]

The Matrix was pretty revolutionary in terms of effects and content.  Not too much with that kind of style has been seen on this side of the pond in a very long while.  

The main problem with the sequels is that the Wachowskis were given a whole LOT of money, and no limits.  So what happens?  A mindless punchpunchshootshootexplode-fest, where the brothers wax philosophical while nodding (very, very heavily, especially in the case of Revolutions) at all their favorite anime.  

The first flick can be taken very well on it's own as an extremely good ( I hesitate to say masterpiece, because it obviously isn't) peice of action-sci-fi filmmaking, as can a couple of the bits of The Animatrix, but aside from that, I'd be darn happy if the sequels never came into existence.

That said, I'm going to go watch eXisTenZ and the Casshern (www.casshern.com for those that don't know.  Yes, it's based on the old obscure Casshan: Robot Hunter anime..) trailer for a few hours.

[maria paula]

well, then im glad to know what im not the only person that didnt think that matrix was an incredible film, to b honest, i fell alseep. or maybe i should give it a second chance??