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Billy Jack back again!?

Started by Mr_Vindictive, June 22, 2005, 06:55:40 AM

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Mr_Vindictive

Looks like it.  I just stumbled on this article on nytimes.com.  To access it, you need a username and password, so I'll just copy and paste the article:

SANTA ROSA VALLEY, Calif. - It has been more than 30 years, but Billy Jack is still plenty ticked off.

Back then, it was bigotry against Native Americans, trouble with the nuclear power industry and big bad government that made this screen hero explode in karate-fueled rage. At the time, the unlikely combination of rugged-loner heroics - all in defense of society's downtrodden and forgotten - and rough-edged filmmaking sparked a pop culture and box-office phenomenon.

Now the man who created and personified Billy Jack, Tom Laughlin - the writer, director, producer and actor - is determined to take on the establishment again, and his concerns are not so terribly different. Mr. Laughlin (and therefore Billy Jack) is angry about the war in Iraq and about the influence of big business in politics. And he still has a thing for the nuclear power industry.

"I'm going to say a lot of egregious things," Mr. Laughlin, 73, announced at the start of an interview at his home here in the rolling horse country east of Los Angeles. His face is creased with deep lines, his hair a bleached gray, but he is still entirely recognizable as the handsome Billy Jack.

"We despise both political parties, really loathe them," he said. ("We" might be Mr. Laughlin and his alter ego, or it might include his wife, Delores Taylor, who played Billy Jack's pacifist partner, Jean; but one doesn't interrupt the man lightly.)

"We the people have no representative of any kind," he continued. "It's now the multinationals. They've taken over. It's no different than the 70's, but it's gotten worse. And if you use words like 'impeachment' or 'fascist' you're a nut on a soapbox."

So Mr. Laughlin and Ms. Taylor are planning to bring their characters back to the big screen with a new $12 million sequel, raising money from individuals just as they did to make their films three decades ago.

In this new film, they say, they will take on social scourges like drugs, and power players like the religious right. They say they will also outline a way to end the current war and launch a political campaign for a third-party presidential candidate.

They have already formed a 527 nonprofit committee with the aim of ending the war, and say they will run full-page ads in major newspapers beginning next month explaining their plan to withdraw from Iraq. (Money raised for that committee is separate from the film project.)

"We both have our reasons for doing this," said Ms. Taylor, who joined the conversation midway through. "Mine is for our children - we have three - and four grandchildren. I feel right now America is in a big, big problem. I feel America is falling apart."

"We're not delusional," Mr. Laughlin added. "We'd disappeared from the business. We devoted our time to psychology and religion, teaching and lecturing. We're not wealthy retired people. We're surviving, we're fine."

Still, at least one industry veteran who worked briefly with Mr. Laughlin said he thought the filmmaker would not be successful.

" 'Billy Jack' had a huge impact on me," said Gavin Polone, a television producer who made "Revelations," on NBC this past season, and who approached Mr. Laughlin years ago about making a sequel to his trademark film. But, he said, Mr. Laughlin was unwilling to work within the Hollywood system, and his new project would probably suffer as a result.

"You can work inside the business and try to figure it out, get good writers, build your career," Mr. Polone said. "Or you can say: 'I'm smarter than everyone else. I'll make my own movies, finance them' - and you're never heard from again."

But three decades ago Mr. Laughlin defied the odds and made his mark on movie history with his homegrown tale "Billy Jack" and the sequel "The Trial of Billy Jack." The films unexpectedly connected with audiences during the social miasma of Vietnam and Watergate, but also had an impact on Hollywood marketing and distribution techniques.

"He was the model for Rambo, for 'Walking Tall,' " said Robert Sklar, professor of cinema studies at New York University. "When you think of what 'Rocky' meant for the culture - Laughlin was ahead of all that. He represented the indomitable outsider, and he was the first one in that era. It was also true in the sense in which he fought to make the film, and fought to get it distributed with this terrific idea of self-releasing."

Because exhibitors were reluctant to gamble on "Billy Jack" in 1971, Mr. Laughlin pioneered what is known as four-walling a theater: renting space from theater owners and collecting the box-office profits. He said he hired Mormons all around the country to work the ticket booths, figuring they could be trusted with the cash, and the film took in an astonishing $32.5 million.

With the sequel in 1974, Mr. Laughlin spent $3 million, then a huge sum, on advertising to promote the film. He demanded cash upfront from exhibitors for the right to show it, and opened in 1,000 theaters, defying industry conventions of the time. The first week of box-office sales resulted in a banner headline in Variety: "Billy's Sequel's Grand $11 Mil Preem; Tom Laughlin Stuns Old Film Biz Pros."

After that, he suffered some setbacks. He sank millions into a film distribution company that became a money pit. A second sequel, "Billy Jack Goes to Washington," about corruption in the nuclear industry, was made in 1976 but never made it into theaters. Mr. Laughlin said the film was blackballed under pressure from politicians involved with nuclear power.

Another sequel, this one about child pornography, had to be shut down during production when Mr. Laughlin was injured on the shoot and unable to finish filming. Later he developed tongue cancer, now in remission.

Then in 2002 Mr. Laughlin made a deal with the film company Intermedia for the rights to make yet another sequel. That endeavor ended in a lawsuit, though he eventually got the rights back in 2004. After that experience, Mr. Laughlin says he is done with the Hollywood studios, and back where he is most comfortable: as an outsider. When the new film is finished, which will be early next year if financing materializes, he will seek an independent or major distributor to release it, as with "The Passion of the Christ."

Ms. Taylor said: "This is something we have to do. We don't know if it will be successful, but we're committed. We have to do it. Just like 'Billy Jack.'"





The article can be found at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/20/movies/20jack.html?oref=login

You guys can use my un/pass if you want:

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"The greatest medicine in the world is human laughter. And the worst medicine is zombie laughter." -- Jack Handey

A bald man named Savalas visited me last night in a dream.  I think it was a Telly vision.

odinn7

Oh God...
I blame Andrew for this, I surely do.
The way I see it is that Laughlin was just sitting around one day and he happened upon this site and saw the review from Andrew and the link to the other review. This got his old, feeble mind going. Now he wants to do another one...
You will get to see Billy Jack kicking ass with his walker.



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You're not the Devil...You're practice.

Mr_Vindictive

"You will get to see Billy Jack kicking ass with his walker."


I'd pay good money to see that!

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"The greatest medicine in the world is human laughter. And the worst medicine is zombie laughter." -- Jack Handey

A bald man named Savalas visited me last night in a dream.  I think it was a Telly vision.

odinn7

"You know what sonny? I'm going to...coff-coff...take this walker and put it on that side of your face...coff-coff...and you know what, you young whipper-snapper? There's not a damn thing you're going to be able to do about it...coff-coff..."



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You're not the Devil...You're practice.

Master Blaster

That's impossible. We all know old people dont know how to use computers!

ulthar

Skaboi wrote:

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> "He was the model for Rambo, for 'Walking Tall,' " said Robert
> Sklar, professor of cinema studies at New York University.

Um, I think Robert Sklar needs to check his credibility at the door: Buford Pusser was a real person. I don't recall the movie character using martial arts (more like just his size and guts), so how is Billy Jack the basis for him?  And Buford was not a liberal wacko.

I bet there are plenty of foo, oops, folks with money out there waiting with baited breath to donate to this project.  The good folks at MoveOn.org or DemocraticUnderground.com would probably be willin' to help him out.  Heck, they may have just found their nominee for '08 (if he weren't so old).

The only real question for us is: will it be a GOOOOD kind of Bad Movie?

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Bodie:      I've been giving myself shock treatments.
Professor Hathaway: Up the voltage.

--Real Genius

Yaddo 42

Didn't Laughlin try an independent run for POTUS back in 2000? He dropped out once things got serious and he had little support beyond the fringe, but a lot of news reports seemed to go out of their way to include him turning up in primary states, like New Hampshire.

Maybe the "Billy Jack" boxed sets sold well and he's encouraged or he's just going loopy again. He seems a little long in the tooth for either a political run or a return to acting, especially as Billy Jack.

Maybe Sklar was lumping in Billy Jack, Buford Pusser and Rambo as all part of a series of macho anti-heroes. It's a stretch, and the politics of each "character" doesn't match up with the other, but I see what he was trying to go for. He just used bad examples. Pusser as a character fit more with Peter Boyle's character in "Joe" or, Paul Kersey from the "Death Wish" series, or Dirty Harry, or Popeye Doyle, or maybe even Travis Bickle from "Taxi Driver". BIlly Jack really was the flip side of the coin socially, even if you take Laughlin's message seriously which it is harder to do looking back.
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Mr_Vindictive

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"The greatest medicine in the world is human laughter. And the worst medicine is zombie laughter." -- Jack Handey

A bald man named Savalas visited me last night in a dream.  I think it was a Telly vision.

daveblackeye15

Isn't "Born Losers" a Billy Jack film? I need to see all three (Yes even the terrible trial one just as a challenge) Well, good luck Laughlin, I think you're gonna need a lot of it.

Now it's time to sing the nation anthem IN AMERICA!!!

Bandit Keith from Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series (episode 12)

raj

I demand that Amnesty Internation put a stop to this.  Afterall, if loud Christina Aguelrawhoweveryouspellit music is torture, then what is another Billy Jack movie?

Yaddo 42

Yep, "Born Losers" was the Billy Jack film before "Billy Jack". Was apparently a moderately successful film at the time but nowhere near the blockbuster of the the 1971 film.

Once years ago we had a trucker pull up to make a delivery at work, when he got out of his rig he was dressed all in dark blue denim jeans and jacket with a black t-shirt, even had the black hat but it was missing the decorative band. Other than a salt and pepper goatee, this guy looked the part, could have been "Billy Jack" twenty-odd  years later. As he walked past my co-workers and me, I couldn't resist saying, "So that's what happend to Billy Jack!" We were giggling and choking back laughs the whole time he was there. Good thing he didn't kick our asses.
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AndyC

I've never watched the Billy Jack movies, although I intend to. So, whenever the name is mentioned, I always think of Billy Jack Haynes, the wrestler. He was popular for a while in the 80s.

Haynes pretty much copied the character directly from the movies. Well, he had the hat and he kicked ass. Beyond that, I think the resemblance stopped.

Laughlin apparently sued him at one point, which is not surprising.





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Andrew

Sometimes reality is all too unreal.  I cannot even imagine what another "Billy Jack" movie, without any reasonable input (or editor), would look like.

Though, him meeting a martial arts master and them using walkers to demonstrate techniques would be amusing.

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Andrew Borntreger
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Yaddo 42

Maybe he could take on Billy Graham who also uses a walker these days.

Or fight it out with Ernest Borgnine? Shatner? "Grampa" Al Lewis? Robert Conrad? William Smith? Rip Taylor? Wavy Gravy?
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Menard

Since you have William Smith in that list, how about his contemporary movie badguy from the same period, Richard Lynch. That would be cool; Billy Jack faces off against William Smith and Richard Lynch. You wouldn't need slow motion for a special effect as it would be an unfortunate reality. (: