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Title: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 13, 2008, 06:19:10 PM
I noticed someone dropped me a karma point for some reason.  It's not the point that bugs me, it's the fact that I don't know who it is or why.  I still like the karma feature though, if only we could see what post karma was added or deleted from.

But now I sympathise with you, Menard, because I'd like to know who did this and why.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Doc Daneeka on May 13, 2008, 06:34:12 PM
Look through your recent posts and sig. I got mysteriously dropped a few weeks back and figured it was because of my Blade Runner suggestion XD


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Menard on May 13, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
I noticed someone dropped me a karma point for some reason.  It's not the point that bugs me, it's the fact that I don't know who it is or why.  I still like the karma feature though, if only we could see what post karma was added or deleted from.

But now I sympathise with you, Menard, because I'd like to know who did this and why.


When you get knocked down 10 points in one day because a troll was more welcomed than you, then you can sympathize with me. :tongueout:

Want to know who did it?

Call the p***y out.

Kinda goes like this: here...p***y...p***y...p***y

Of course, you may get more than one to come running.

You can also just start up a thread to get karma for yourself. Extortion works well in this case. Of course, it is expected for you to give thank you speeches in return.

You can also do this:


Okay, now, who voted down Patient7 and didn't even bother to say anything about it?

Fess up; or else the next line of questioning is going to hurt.(http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif)


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Raffine on May 14, 2008, 02:39:15 PM
and . . .

KARMA! for Patient7!



Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 15, 2008, 05:50:00 PM
I noticed someone dropped me a karma point for some reason.  It's not the point that bugs me, it's the fact that I don't know who it is or why.  I still like the karma feature though, if only we could see what post karma was added or deleted from.

But now I sympathise with you, Menard, because I'd like to know who did this and why.


When you get knocked down 10 points in one day because a troll was more welcomed than you, then you can sympathize with me. :tongueout:

Want to know who did it?

Call the p***y out.

Kinda goes like this: here...p***y...p***y...p***y

Of course, you may get more than one to come running.

You can also just start up a thread to get karma for yourself. Extortion works well in this case. Of course, it is expected for you to give thank you speeches in return.

You can also do this:


Okay, now, who voted down Patient7 and didn't even bother to say anything about it?

Fess up; or else the next line of questioning is going to hurt.([url]http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif[/url])


One, excuse me for actually trying to be nice to a person.

Two, thanks for your suggestions, those are pretty funny.

and . . .

KARMA! for Patient7!




I hope this was karma for my hatred at karma droppers who don't say anything and not petty karma, petty karma just seems like a new low for me.


And now...

here...p***y...p***y...p***y


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Look through your recent posts and sig. I got mysteriously dropped a few weeks back and figured it was because of my Blade Runner suggestion XD

Okay, I took your advice and I found four possibilities, so there's some karma for you.

First someone may have misread a post on the worst gifts thread about me being THANKFUL for my terrible gifts.

Second there's a post I made on the R. Kelly trial thread in which I said it being good that it was postponed because now we have Trapped in the Closet, I meant to laugh at.

Third I made a Jarhead joke, a person in the military may be offended but I doubt it was Andrew because he made light of someone else's joke and I think he has some integrity.

Finally in a quoteable movies thread Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail came up so I mentioned how the French Guy called them kkkkkkkkkkkknigits (knights with the k being pronounce) I suppose someone might have thought I meant a racial slur, I don't know how.

Anyway, whoever it was fess up or the next line of questioning is going to hurt.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Andrew on May 15, 2008, 06:24:30 PM
Third I made a Jarhead joke, a person in the military may be offended but I doubt it was Andrew because he made light of someone else's joke and I think he has some integrity.

If someone actually offends me, I think you will know it.  I don't really give out negative karma.  Positive - yes, but if I disagree with something I am far more likely to state my case.

Anyway, whoever it was fess up or the next line of questioning is going to hurt.

I'd say that the best course of action is to consider the matter as over and move on.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Menard on May 15, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
Anyway, whoever it was fess up or the next line of questioning is going to hurt.


I'd say that the best course of action is to consider the matter as over and move on.


Nyah; it's no fun that way. :tongueout:

Notice how much Patient7 is becoming like me?(http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif)


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: RCMerchant on May 15, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
If I get a bad karma...I take it as I got some kinda attention. The only person I ever gave bad karma to was Wyre Wizard...but he likes it...so I figured I was helping him anyway. WW is a masochist for punishment....and I don't mind obligiing his phoney a$$.

Anyway, whoever it was fess up or the next line of questioning is going to hurt.


I'd say that the best course of action is to consider the matter as over and move on.


Nyah; it's no fun that way. :tongueout:

Notice how much Patient7 is becoming like me?([url]http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif[/url])


He's but a child! You...you MONSTER!!!  :twirl:


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: AndyC on May 16, 2008, 04:45:14 AM
We all get a negative karma point at least once in a while, and I think the normal reaction is to look back and see what it might have been for. It gets pretty confusing if there isn't anything obvious. I wouldn't sweat it.

What I find almost as confusing is a sudden surge of positive karma with no obvious cause. You must have said something clever, but you can't think what it was. That's when it bugs me.

As a journalist and columnist, I guess I don't see the karma as a big deal. I'm used to the idea of being liked and disliked by people I have never met and will likely never hear from. That's reality. I put something out there for all to see. Many read it, some have reactions, but few give feedback. And that can occasionally come in the form of a really nasty letter or phone call. What the silent majority are saying is a mystery. You just have to be sincere, understand your subject as best you can, and stand by what you write.

If the anonymous karma system has any value, it might be as a measure of that praise someone doesn't consider worth expressing or that disapproval someone is reluctant to voice out loud. Even a surge of bad karma can be valuable. Sometimes, just knowing you have offended a lot of people can lead you to reconsider, if not what you say, at least how you say it.

That doesn't make it a substitute for a real complaint, of course. Communication, to me, is always better, because in my experience, people are frequently offended by something they misunderstood. On the other hand, if we want open communication, we have to be prepared to accept that people are going to say things that might not be nice, offer equally open criticism if what they say crosses a line, and hold off on the bad karma until we're sure it's deserved. That applies particularly to posters who are critical of other posters. Don't automatically dock somebody a point for speaking up.

If you are determined to give bad karma, at least use it as an accompaniment to open criticism, just as positive karma usually accompanies a word of praise. "I don't like what you said, sorry, negative karma."

However, the anonymity, while not conducive to open dialog, does at least encourage honesty of a sort. Remember that hearing nothing does not mean someone wasn't offended. The sentiment is still there, even if you don't know about it. Better to know, I say. And if that's not enough, you can at least be satisfied that something you wrote got a reaction.

It would just be so much more helpful to know what the karma was for.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: trekgeezer on May 16, 2008, 09:52:55 AM
I never give out negative karma, but I do give out good karma.  I really don't care about the karma thing other than when it goes up a few points and I don't know which post got it for me.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 16, 2008, 06:11:33 PM
I realize that my original post seems sort of as a bit of whining but I was actually calling out people who also have been knocked karma without being told.  I like the karma system and every time I do knock someone karma I at least say that I didn't like their post.

And RCMerchant, I have a long way to go if I even dare to consider thinking about changing my name to Menard 2.0 or Son of Menard.  But I would never do that anyway.  If I do change it at all it'll probably be The Artist Formerly Known as Patient7.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Menard on May 16, 2008, 08:41:05 PM
...I have a long way to go if I even dare to consider thinking about changing my name to Menard 2.0 or Son of Menard.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwExDG7n7Zg


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Raffine on May 16, 2008, 09:31:37 PM
If you want to experience the 'Phantom Negative Karma Phenomenon' firsthand - just post something negative about President George W. Bush!  :tongueout: 

(http://www.fearbush.com/blog/archives/bush_frown.gif)


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 16, 2008, 09:39:39 PM
If you want to experience the 'Phantom Negative Karma Phenomenon' firsthand - just post something negative about President George W. Bush!  :tongueout: 

([url]http://www.fearbush.com/blog/archives/bush_frown.gif[/url])
Hey!  You went down!  I gave you karma and you went up to 181...!  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:  :thumbup:  I now restore you.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 16, 2008, 10:58:45 PM
...I have a long way to go if I even dare to consider thinking about changing my name to Menard 2.0 or Son of Menard.



[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwExDG7n7Zg[/url]


If you were a member I would give you karma, wait six hours then give you karma again!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 16, 2008, 11:08:07 PM
Now I went down...  :lookingup:  :bouncegiggle: 


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: RCMerchant on May 17, 2008, 12:18:23 PM
If you want to experience the 'Phantom Negative Karma Phenomenon' firsthand - just post something negative about President George W. Bush!  :tongueout: 

([url]http://www.fearbush.com/blog/archives/bush_frown.gif[/url])
Hey!  You went down!  I gave you karma and you went up to 181...!  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle:  :thumbup:  I now restore you.


Hmmm...I'll experiment!

George Bush is a weenie washer!  :twirl: Myay! Myah!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: indianasmith on May 17, 2008, 08:16:13 PM
I don't always tell someone when I bump up their karma, but I nearly always let someone know when I ding them a point and why.  Haven't done it lately; usually my target is Lester when he is being more obnoxiously wrong than usual.  But doggone it, he has the courage of his convictions so I haven't knocked him down in awhile, even though he is just as wrong as ever . . . I prefer to simply state my opposite opinion and see where the thread goes. 


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: AndyC on May 17, 2008, 09:57:42 PM
Yeah, I also tend to use negative karma very sparingly. Like real karma, what goes around comes around. I'm more likely to hand out positive points for anything that strikes me as clever.

Negative points, to me, are for when somebody says something that is totally uncalled-for. Not simple disagreement, even if I find the position infuriating. I'll just make my case, as I usually do (although lately, I've made an effort to avoid jumping into political debates on the board).

But ad hominem attacks, trolling, spamming or statements that are blatantly inflammatory, unfounded and unfair - those get a point knocked off.



Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Ash on May 17, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
I see someone knocked RC down a point.
He was at 450 and now he's at 449.

I bumped it back up to 450 for you RC!   :thumbup:

I rarely give negative karma and only do so for the same reasons Andy mentioned.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 17, 2008, 10:12:45 PM
I see someone knocked RC down a point.
He was at 450 and now he's at 449.

I bumped it back up to 450 for you RC!   :thumbup:

I rarely give negative karma and only do so for the same reasons Andy mentioned.
I am the one who knocked BELA and wrote to him about how I had absolutely NO REASON to do it...  :bouncegiggle:   :bouncegiggle:  :teddyr:  :bouncegiggle:
C'mon now, lads, this karma thing has gotten too serious (and I will restore plus plus my buddy BELA tomorrow...) 


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Menard on May 17, 2008, 10:20:25 PM
Oddly enough, I haven't lost a single point of karma.

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: RCMerchant on May 18, 2008, 05:25:35 AM
I see someone knocked RC down a point.
He was at 450 and now he's at 449.

I bumped it back up to 450 for you RC!   :thumbup:

I rarely give negative karma and only do so for the same reasons Andy mentioned.
I am the one who knocked BELA and wrote to him about how I had absolutely NO REASON to do it...  :bouncegiggle:   :bouncegiggle:  :teddyr:  :bouncegiggle:
C'mon now, lads, this karma thing has gotten too serious (and I will restore plus plus my buddy BELA tomorrow...) 

You guys slay me!  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on May 18, 2008, 10:24:01 AM
You guys slay me!  :bouncegiggle:  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:
Who loves... f'n with ya baby?   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 18, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
Oddly enough, I haven't lost a single point of karma.

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

That is strange, I find it odd.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Kester Pelagius on May 18, 2008, 02:02:18 PM
Karma for everyone!

EDIT: Or maybe not.  Got to Patient7 and the board said. .

Quote
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 6 hours.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 18, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
Karma for everyone!

EDIT: Or maybe not.  Got to Patient7 and the board said. .

Quote
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 6 hours.

Karma for giving karma!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: lester1/2jr on May 19, 2008, 03:41:02 PM
karma is for CRYBABYS


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on May 19, 2008, 05:09:44 PM
karma is for CRYBABYS

Ouch, you sir do not know how to insult a person, the best time to call a person a crybaby is while they're crying, not when they're just stating their mild frustration which is long since dead.

And by the way, I've basically considered my personal problem here over because this karma dropper is too much of a little wuss to admit it.  However if this person is reading this I just want to say,

Dude, what.  What?  You wanna start something?  C'mon!  Yeah.  What?  What?  C'mon!  What?  and so on.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: lester1/2jr on May 20, 2008, 08:12:54 AM
if I was the type of person who cared what people thought,  i wouldn't post at badmovies.org  i'd post at goodmoviesorg abuot the latest ashton kutcher or what's her name goldie hawns daughter piece of crap


Title: Six points lost in 36 hours
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 07, 2008, 06:53:53 PM
I have gone from 235 to 229 since Friday night... obviously, somebody has a bone to pick with me, or rather is out for my ass, but I have no idea what it might be about.  That's a lot of "boo-ing" for a short period of time and I can relate to knocking someone once anonymously, but not six times in a row...  :lookingup:  That's sneaky.  When I get down to zero, think of me as a one-time contributor...   :bluesad:


Title: Re: Six points lost in 36 hours
Post by: Menard on June 07, 2008, 08:04:04 PM
I have gone from 235 to 229 since Friday night... obviously, somebody has a bone to pick with me, or rather is out for my ass, but I have no idea what it might be about.  That's a lot of "boo-ing" for a short period of time and I can relate to knocking someone once anonymously, but not six times in a row...  :lookingup:  That's sneaky.  When I get down to zero, think of me as a one-time contributor...   :bluesad:

I'm wondering how you got 36 hours from Friday night to Saturday night. :tongueout:

Even when I got knocked down 10 points, in less of a space of time, it was for an obvious reason. :lookingup:

I have not read all of your posts over the last few days, shocking as it may seem, but it sounds valid that with such a drop that it is one member, or mostly one member.


As I did for Patient7, I'll help you out by calling them out:


Here...p***y...p***y...p***y


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 07, 2008, 08:11:38 PM
I have gone from 235 to 229 since Friday night... obviously, somebody has a bone to pick with me, or rather is out for my ass, but I have no idea what it might be about.  That's a lot of "boo-ing" for a short period of time and I can relate to knocking someone once anonymously, but not six times in a row...  :lookingup:  That's sneaky.  When I get down to zero, think of me as a one-time contributor...   :bluesad:
I'm wondering how you got 36 hours from Friday night to Saturday night. :tongueout:
Even when I got knocked down 10 points, in less of a space of time, it was for an obvious reason. :lookingup:
I have not read all of your posts over the last few days, shocking as it may seem, but it sounds valid that with such a drop that it is one member, or mostly one member.
As I did for Patient7, I'll help you out by calling them out:
Here...p***y...p***y...p***y
Yeh, yer a big help.  Well, 36 hours was meant to be a generous stretch, as I did not want to mischaracterize the reduction.  I go up and down normally, but it seemed apparent to me that I'm done in.  I did find it a bit startling since I had not engaged in any political debate for at least awhile.   :lookingup:  Though I dared to post a news item critical of our president, I noticed after the point loss that Inyarear had responded to it, in a less than courteous manner...  I then challenged Inyarear mainly because of the comments he made in the now infamously locked thread (unresolved) and in that news item I posted (in where I made no comment). 


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Andrew on June 07, 2008, 09:12:15 PM
Noted.  I will fix the issues.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on June 07, 2008, 09:20:51 PM
This is Menard right now...(http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif)


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on June 07, 2008, 09:22:15 PM
([url]http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif[/url])


HaHA it works, I wasn't sure if I could actually get that smiley to work but I did!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 07, 2008, 09:31:39 PM
Yeh, but can't leave no karma... anybody else have a problem? 


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Menard on June 07, 2008, 09:49:58 PM
([url]http://zhorkow.com/smileys/lol-065.gif[/url])


HaHA it works, I wasn't sure if I could actually get that smiley to work but I did!


Hmmm...didn't count on that.

In order to save bandwidth, if anyone want to use my smiley, use this one instead: (http://lesbiansexpornvideos.com/smileys/lol-065.gif)


Andrew's going to be p**sed about that. :tongueout:


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 07, 2008, 11:41:53 PM
Menard !!  Join us!!  There's no more karma...!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Raffine on June 08, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
Quote
Menard !!  Join us!!  There's no more karma...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeTpbV9nt0


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Patient7 on June 08, 2008, 10:14:58 AM
Menard !!  Join us!!  There's no more karma...!

One of us.
One of us.


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: AndyC on June 08, 2008, 06:07:23 PM
One of us.
One of us.

Gooble gobble, gooble gobble!


Title: Re: Now I see what Menard's talking about
Post by: Torgo on June 10, 2008, 09:12:52 PM
I can only think of a couple of instances since I've been posting on these forums in which I've given someone negative karma.

I think at those times it was due to someone going out of their way to belittle or be venomous to people I respect on here or to myself.

If someone posts an opinion that I completely don't agree with, if it's posted in a thoughtful manner that isn't confrontational and rather just that person's opinion than I won't give them negative karma just due to their opinion being completely opposite of mine.  (ATTACK OF THE RUN-ON SENTENCE!  :tongueout:) In fact, I've actually given people positive karma due to posting their opposite opinion in a thoughtful respectful manner.

I don't think I've ever had any big drops in karma but I just try to be respectful on here to people and just have fun while I'm at it.