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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by zombie no.one - Today at 03:01:30 PMQuote from: M.10rda on Today at 01:41:04 PMCase in point:
I really like SCROOGED... maybe I love SCROOGED... however all of ZNO's criticisms resonate for me. SCROOGED was directed by Richard Donner, who I think was a largely mediocre, sometimes utterly inept, and certainly often strident director who would aggressively direct scenes at maximum speeds and volumes down the throats of his viewers over and over again, usually with no appreciation for nuance whatsover! I find all the LETHAL WEAPON sequels to be borderline nonsensical - all of the actors might as well be shouting Cantonese at each other incoherently, with Mandarin subtitles superimposed along the bottom of the screen.
Yet I like the original OMEN, somehow, and I like SCROOGED a lot, even though those two films still very much bear the Donner touch. Bill Murray is a masterful screen personality and performer, and he puts SCROOGED over for me....... quite persuasively. ZNO, it's too bad you didn't make it to the closing song/credits, which (on its strength) makes me willing to forgive SCROOGED any other Donnerian excess.
ah, yeah well my habit of ditching out of films before the end (which I somehow never used to do till more recently) will mean I can potentially miss some good stuff. my loss
was actually surprised by SCROOGED in many ways and yes Bill Murray is pretty much the perfect choice for that role at that time... just couldn't handle the onslaught of 'stuff' as it went on.
-- didn't actually click that it was the same director who did THE OMEN... prob my fav 70s horror film!
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Good Movies / Re: Films you are unable to wa...
Last post by M.10rda - Today at 02:21:26 PMQuote from: Alex on November 13, 2025, 10:17:59 AMLovely Bones. One of my bosses at work tried to force me to read the novel despite me telling him I would not be able to read the subject matter.
It ain't worth the effort imho.
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Off Topic Discussion / Re: strange dream depository
Last post by Rev. Powell - Today at 02:20:19 PMDreamt my late mom saved me from getting arrested. Some detective was trying to arrest me on a BS charge; I knew it wouldn't stick but was annoyed I was going to have to pay for a lawyer. I was flipping through the Yellow Pages having no luck finding the legal section, then suddenly I was outside and realized I would have to sneak back into the room where the cop was so I wouldn't realize I had snuck out. I saw him outside and was trying to avoid him when he caught sight of me and excitedly called me over. He said, "did you deliver a eulogy at your mom's funeral?" and then asked me to read it to his own little boy. I said "Oh, you knew her?" then realized he wasn't going to arrest me any more. Then I woke up.
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by M.10rda - Today at 01:41:04 PMLil' Cerberus, I hear you and I understand you.
It is difficult to accept "conventional wisdom" or public opinion etc as being representative of any film's actual quality.
Opinions I have expressed before that fly in the face of generally established belief (historic or contemporary): CASABLANCA is overrated and not that romantic; Robert Altman's SHORT CUTS is the director's worst film and is emblematic of everything bad about his large catalog of films; MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING isn't funny, isn't heartwarming, and is in fact racist, offensive, and reprehensible. I might as well add that I like Spielberg's 1941 and rank it among or near his Top 5!
We all just have to consider every darn film individually on its own merits and on our experience with that film, I guess. Nuance! It's a thing... a laborious yet necessary thing.
Case in point:
I really like SCROOGED... maybe I love SCROOGED... however all of ZNO's criticisms resonate for me. SCROOGED was directed by Richard Donner, who I think was a largely mediocre, sometimes utterly inept, and certainly often strident director who would aggressively direct scenes at maximum speeds and volumes down the throats of his viewers over and over again, usually with no appreciation for nuance whatsover! I find all the LETHAL WEAPON sequels to be borderline nonsensical - all of the actors might as well be shouting Cantonese at each other incoherently, with Mandarin subtitles superimposed along the bottom of the screen.
Yet I like the original OMEN, somehow, and I like SCROOGED a lot, even though those two films still very much bear the Donner touch. Bill Murray is a masterful screen personality and performer, and he puts SCROOGED over for me....... quite persuasively. ZNO, it's too bad you didn't make it to the closing song/credits, which (on its strength) makes me willing to forgive SCROOGED any other Donnerian excess.
It is difficult to accept "conventional wisdom" or public opinion etc as being representative of any film's actual quality.
Opinions I have expressed before that fly in the face of generally established belief (historic or contemporary): CASABLANCA is overrated and not that romantic; Robert Altman's SHORT CUTS is the director's worst film and is emblematic of everything bad about his large catalog of films; MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING isn't funny, isn't heartwarming, and is in fact racist, offensive, and reprehensible. I might as well add that I like Spielberg's 1941 and rank it among or near his Top 5!
We all just have to consider every darn film individually on its own merits and on our experience with that film, I guess. Nuance! It's a thing... a laborious yet necessary thing.
Case in point:
I really like SCROOGED... maybe I love SCROOGED... however all of ZNO's criticisms resonate for me. SCROOGED was directed by Richard Donner, who I think was a largely mediocre, sometimes utterly inept, and certainly often strident director who would aggressively direct scenes at maximum speeds and volumes down the throats of his viewers over and over again, usually with no appreciation for nuance whatsover! I find all the LETHAL WEAPON sequels to be borderline nonsensical - all of the actors might as well be shouting Cantonese at each other incoherently, with Mandarin subtitles superimposed along the bottom of the screen.
Yet I like the original OMEN, somehow, and I like SCROOGED a lot, even though those two films still very much bear the Donner touch. Bill Murray is a masterful screen personality and performer, and he puts SCROOGED over for me....... quite persuasively. ZNO, it's too bad you didn't make it to the closing song/credits, which (on its strength) makes me willing to forgive SCROOGED any other Donnerian excess.
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Games / Re: Movie Title Chains
Last post by Rev. Powell - Today at 01:37:19 PMNot many options here, I'm going to have to cheat a little.
Raisin' Kane: A Rapumentary (2001)
Raisin' Kane: A Rapumentary (2001)
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Games / Re: Answer the question with a...
Last post by Rev. Powell - Today at 01:33:55 PM
What were the natives chanting?
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Press Releases and Film News / Re: RIP Sally Kirkland
Last post by claws - Today at 01:31:17 PMRIP
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Games / Re: Fill in the Bank, make a b...
Last post by Rev. Powell - Today at 01:29:33 PMA pair of friends investigate strange phenomena only to uncover a conspiracy run by _____.
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Bad Movies / Re: RECENT VIEWINGS (Bad Movie...
Last post by zombie no.one - Today at 12:38:27 PMDon't blame you there SC
I'm a pretty big fan of the first 2 CRITTERS movies (in fact "Brad Brown is back in town" was my sig on here for ages), but part 3 was a major letdown and part 4 is the dullest 'in space' sequel ever made... it barely even features any critters!
I'm a pretty big fan of the first 2 CRITTERS movies (in fact "Brad Brown is back in town" was my sig on here for ages), but part 3 was a major letdown and part 4 is the dullest 'in space' sequel ever made... it barely even features any critters!